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Whoa I don't know about that...but it sure would be nice. His upside is a back of the rotation type, another Vargas/Olson to create a culture of competition in spring training.

The apple of this deal is Robles, not French.
French has the same type of stuff as Washburn and is a fly-ball pitcher. Adir has made Washburn into the player he was this year by adding another pitch to his arsenal and improving the pitches he already has. The consensus is that he might be able to do the same with French...who is pitching next week.

Washburn IS a "back of the rotation", but this year, he is in the in the middle-front. His numbers of the last 3 years havent been anything to write home about.
 
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Better not trade Felix!

Sources: Mariners nixed three-way Felix Hernandez trade sending Padres slugger Adrian Gonzalez to Seattle

Lots of stuff has been leaking out in recent days about discussions between the Mariners and Boston Red Sox about a potential Felix Hernandez trade. From what we've pieced together, things were a little more detailed than just a simple phone call or two between the Mariners and Boston.

Here's what I've heard after working sources from my end.

They included:

RHP Clay Buchholz
RHP Daniel Bard
RHP Justin Masterson
LHP Nick Hagadone
RHP Michael Bowden
LHP Felix Doubront
OF Josh Reddick
SS Yamaico Navarro

Seattle turned that down. But that was just the warm-up act to the blockbuster proposal that followed.

When the Mariners rebuffed the Red Sox and it became clear the two sides could not get a deal done on their own, Boston GM Theo Epstein apparently got on the phone to his longtime close pal. San Diego Padres GM Kevin Towers.

It has since come out that Epstein and Towers were discussing a trade that would send home run slugger Adrian Gonzalez to Boston. But wait. Apparently, Epstein wants Hernandez more than anybody, even Gonzalez.

So, the three teams start discussing a possible three-way deal with Seattle that would send Gonzalez to the Mariners, along with Buchholz and a couple of other Red Sox prospects.

The Red Sox would get Hernandez.

And the Padres would get Brandon Morrow, Phillippe Aumont and Carlos Triunfel from Seattle, along with a couple of other top Boston prospects.

A creative proposal, to say the least. And one that obviously would have blown away anything else at the July 31 deadline. Would have been the talk of future deadlines for years to come.

But it never happened. The Mariners apparently nixed it, feeling it would not benefit them in the long-term. Boston then turned around and dealt Masterson and Hagadone to the Indians for catcher Victor Martinez.

From what I'm hearing, the Mariners didn't think any of the packages they were being offered would go down much in substance over the next 12 months, when they'd only have another year-plus of Hernandez under control. Why give up the extra year, their reasoning went, if they could still get a similar offer at the 2010 deadline?

So, that was apparently Seattle's initial foray into the world of trading Hernandez.

It was an educational experience to say the least, and one that should serve them well should they choose to explore this further next winter or a year from now. And they still don't have to deal him. Once again, this was only their first venture into what they could possibly acquire if Hernandez doesn't sign a long-term deal with them over the next 12-to-18 months. Remember, Hernandez is under club control through 2011, but his arbitration years are about to get rather pricey. You'd think the club would like to buy some of those out at a lesser price starting this winter.
 
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Well the M's won the series, but lost the 3rd game against KC. And I didn't even get to watch any of those games, so I don't know what happened. How well did Snell do? Now the M's go against the Devil Rays, which I hope we get at least two W's from that series.
 
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Well the M's won the series, but lost the 3rd game against KC. And I didn't even get to watch any of those games, so I don't know what happened. How well did Snell do? Now the M's go against the Devil Rays, which I hope we get at least two W's from that series.
Snell didn't pitch.....Vargas did. He gave up 5 runs in the 1st.

We got beat by a pitcher who hasn't won a game since 2005. How embarrassing is that?
 
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Junior does it again as M’s beat White Sox in 14

Ken Griffey Jr. has had plenty of signature moments in Seattle since his Mariners debut as a teenager 20 years ago. So many, he’s lost count.

He hasn’t seemed to have lost his magic, though.

“I don’t really try to put numbers on moments. I just try to help the guys out as much as possible,” the 39-year-old Seattle icon said late—and we mean late—Wednesday night. “When you get a chance to play, you have to go for it.”

Griffey’s latest chance was as a pinch-hitter in the bottom of the 14th inning against his former White Sox, who had the Mariners locked in a stalemate. And Junior went for it, lining a single off the right-field wall with two outs in the bottom of the 14th to give Seattle a 1-0 victory over the Chicago White Sox.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...ug=ap-whitesox-mariners-rdp&prov=ap&type=lgns
 
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DA is HELLA overrated. When was the last time he had a 1-2-3 9th? I cant even recall. He is having a fluke ass year, like Miguel Batista in 2007.

I hope he aint back next year...there is no way he pull it off again.
He's easily the 3rd best reliever they've got and I think everybody knows that, it's just you don't want your closer to be your best reliever, Lowe and White are far more valuable doing what they do then coming in the 7th & 8th in tight situations rather than getting 3 outs up by 3 runs in the 9th.