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Practice notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Except for the absence of Jeff Garcia, everything went according to plan.


Training camp is like the draft in that way. If there are no serious injuries, the spin as put forth by players and coaches is positive.

The Raiders went to school for four days and as a result went out and had a crisp, error free padded practice Monday.

“I noticed there weren’t too many repeats. I didn’t see too many blown assignments when we were going on hard cadences and things like that,” running back Justin Fargas said. “Nobody was flinching, jumping offsides, things like that. Things that have killed us in the past.”

The sentiment was echoed several times by several players. Mission accomplished.

It was indeed a far cry from Raiders practices of the past when confusion reigned. Not sure the tempo was all that much different, and Tom Cable’s warning about keeping players upright and avoiding injury was followed closely.

It was controlled physicality, the kind that makes it hard to determine exactly what you’re seeing.

Some random observations from the first padded practice:

– On Sunday, Cable said Garcia’s missed practice was merely part of the plan. It was the way he went about training camp as a 39-year-old quarterback. Garcia said he was merely staying fresh for Monday, which had a brief morning walkthrough before the padded practice.

Must have been a tough walkthrough, because Garcia missed the first practice with a calf strain.

“It doesn’t look serious at all,” Cable said. “We’ve got to be smart on this one.”

– Nick Miller lined up at wide receiver, was on special teams and even went with the running backs to carry the ball a few times during drills.

He made the biggest play of the first practice when he somehow got between Hiram Eugene and Chris Johnson and came down with a 50-yard rainbow from JaMarcus Russell.

Miller’s a Tim Dwight-type who claims to have run 4.28 and 4.30 at his Pro Day.

– Russell had one interception during team drills, a forced pass intended for Zach Miller which was picked off by Eugene.

But the throw to Nick Miller, and at least two medium-to-deep range seam bullets to Chaz Schilens, were impressive.

The Raiders have taken the training wheels off their offense. There are “tags” on pass routes which can alter the play after the snap. Fargas believes the players have been given more responsibility in making it work.

Russell credited the work of passing game coach Ted Tollner and quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett.

“I think those guys are some of the best coaches,” Russell said. “They been around for quite some years. I think you guys see that. And what they’re doing is putting us in a place for success. Everything’s a process, and right now we’re working on it.”

– As the Raiders usually do in training camp, they blitzed often and as a result the pass protection was an issue. Or was it? Cable didn’t seem to think so.

“No, not at all. What I liked about today is they’re seeing so much. We have had a lot in. We need that for how to blitz properly,” Cable said. “We have not been really a pressure team but when we do pressure, we want to be right.

“For the offensive line and the quarterback, in particular, being able to handle it and getting us in the right play if we need to. That stuff it’s always kind of up and down early and then it just progressively gets better.”

Asomugha, for one, will believe in more regular-season pressure when he sees it.

“That’s like a wait-and-see type of thing because even in camps previously we were doing a lot of blitzing and doing multiple things defensively and then we got into games and we were pretty basic,” Asomugha said.

– One blitzer who came in unimpeded was veteran Sam Williams, with new line acquisition Erik Pears failing to cut him off.

– The protection issues weren’t all about blitzing, with Greg Ellis getting past Cornell Green and Tommy Kelly (who hasn’t jumped offsides in two days) shedding Cooper Carlisle.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch showed excellent coverage skill on one deep pass, staying with Darren McFadden stride for stride and breaking up a pass along the sideline.

– Cornerback Stanford Routt held up in coverage on a deep attempt by Johnnie Lee Higgins and continued to get some first team reps along with incumbnent Chris Johnson, a situation that drew an interesting take from Asomugha.

“I think Chris has been a little more upset than Stanford because Chris came in after DeAngelo (left) and felt like he proved himself worthy of starting this year,” Asomugha said.

– Good to see Oren O’Neal on a lead block on a running play, taking on Thomas Howard and clearing the way for Louis Rankin.

– Fargas demonstrated on at least two occasions why he would be hard to cut even with Darren McFadden and Michael Bush around, stonewalling middle blitzes and enabling Russell to get off passes. One of them was the deep strike to Miller.

Neither McFadden nor Bush is in Fargas’ league as a blocker. Running back reps were distributed fairly evenly.

– Cable said he has been getting “good reports” on Walker, who again looked strong workout with the training staff. Walker joked tha the could hardly wait to get back to practice so he won’t have to work as hard.

“It’s coming back quick, quick, quick so that’s also working on the conditioning,” Walker said. “So I’m looking forward to getting back out there practicing so I can get a little more of a breather.”
 

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Ha, I like his (Heyward Bey's) attitude! Just catch the ball bruh, he must be really fast. A few days ago someone (maybe S1) posted an article that said Heyward-Bey blew by Stanford Routt, so that speed can't be touched. Just gotta catch the ball! He maybe focusing too hard at times it seems.

We gotta very deep receiving squad. I was almost ready to give up on Javon Walker but we're hearing he's looking good too!
 

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He made the biggest play of the first practice when he somehow got between Hiram Eugene and Chris Johnson and came down with a 50-yard rainbow from JaMarcus Russell.
^^^^BETO, you gotta have touch to throw "rainbow" passes mayne, especially 50 yard rainbows. This is why we're sticking with JR as our qb. He's our franchise qb. Who is this new receiver? I've never heard of this dude... he's pretty fast too!!
 
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Mitchell takes his shot _ almost
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009 at 1:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits and news and notes from Tuesday morning’s practice:


– It came with an audible crack, with safety Mike Mitchell properly timing up a short screen to running back Gary Russell, and giving a sneak preview of mayhem to come.

At least that’s what Mitchell and the Raiders hope.

Mitchell, by order of coach Tom Cable, didn’t finish the blow, and smiled afterward when asked how it would have been different had he finished the hit.

“He’s going to be on his back and I’m going to be up yelling,” Mitchell said. “That’s how it usually ends.”

The usual tactic, Mitchell said, is to drive through the target rather than simply hit it.

“I’m trying to hit the person behind him, not him,” Mitchell said. “That’s just how I play. I don’t talk any trash or anything like that. I’m just a physical player. When it’s game time, I’ll let that speak when I play.”

Mitchell is making up for lost time. He wasn’t allowed to be involved in much of the Raiders offseason because his class at Ohio University was not done with school, an arcane NFL rule considering he left as a junior and was embarking on a professional career.

“What I like is he has really committed to the learning part of it,” Cable said. “He’s always trying to ask questions, always around with his coaches. He recognized the fact that he missed all that and he’s making up for it, and doing fine. He’s obviously an intelligent, guy, but just his want to, to press it, go after it and find out and get the answers has been the most important thing.”

Mitchell also made some nice plays in coverage, one in particular to break up a pass intended for rookie tight end Brandon Myers.

Like first-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey, whom Mitchell now counts as one of his closest friends, he spent much of the late offseason in Alameda rehabbing a hamstring injury. For both men, so far, so good. Neither has had a problem with the hamstring.

More news, notes and quick hits:

– Too early to tell if it’s a real competition or something more cosmetic, but Ricky Brown got a lot of work with the first team at middle linebacker in place of Kirk Morrison.

Cable said the situation was competitive and the Raiders were simply looking for the best combination. When asked if that could include Morrison moving outside, Cable said, “I don’t know about that yet, but we have talked about it.”

– Left tackle Khalif Barnes was headed for his first-ever MRI after teammate James Marten blocked Ryan Boschetti into his left leg. Cable said it was an ankle sprain, Barnes said it was his knee and ankle.

“There was a whole lot of weight coming down on my left knee, and I twisted it a little bit,” Barnes said.

– While Barnes seemed doubtful about moving from left to right, Mario Henderson didn’t think it would be a huge adjustment.

“I like the position. But if I have to go to the right side I’ll do the same thing no matter what position I’m and try to make the best of it,” Henderson.

A switch isn’t likely. If Henderson gets through camp healthy, he’ll be the left tackle.

– Quarterback Jeff Garcia was rehabbing a calf strain following practice and hoped to return to practice soon. Garcia missed time with the same injury last season in Tampa Bay about the time it was rumored Brett Favre could be coming to the Bucs.

“I was just doing some extra conditioning after practice a couple days ago and just felt it start to pull a little bit,” Garcia said. “It was one of those things where I’ve experienced it in the past, and I didn’t want it to happen the way it happened like last year. It was the same calf, the same place.”

– The view from the 30-yard box suggests that with Garcia out, Charlie Frye looks to be the best option to be the backup.

Frye ended practice with a roll to his right and a flip to Brandon Myers for a touchdown.

“A nice play, but we should have had a score three players earlier,” Frye said.

Frye also threw a nice deep completion to Chaz Schilens, who leaped for the catch between Jason Horton and Mitchell, and had a swing route to Louis Murphy for good yardage, advancing the ball inside the 10-yard line.

– Nnamdi Asomugha left briefly, his hand on his right hip, but returned after being stretched by a member of the training staff.

“My hip flexor was tight,” Asomugha said. “Nothing gets by y’all.”

– Oren O’Neal practiced in back-to-back padded practices, a good sign after missing all of last season with tears to his ACL, LCL and MCL.

– Yes, there were a couple of conspicuous drops by Heyward-Bey, one which had a huge carom effect. Some of his drops have bordered on the spectacular.

“He’s coming along, coming along and just keep giving it to him, keep teaching him how to put the negative play behind him, you know, and that’s kinda’ where we’re at,” Cable said. “But much better today in terms of doing that. He dropped a ball on a go-route, came back and made a big catch on an out-route, so just gotta’ keep pushing him that way.”

– Ex-Raiders guard Steve Wisniewski has been present at the last two practices and said he’ll be out to watch occasionally.

– Shawn Bayes was the Tuesday version of Nick Miller, the smallish receiver who came up with some big plays, including one play when he sunk to his knees to grab a JaMarcus Russell pass. Miller had one drop and was later muttering under his breath for his pass route on a longer throw.

Miller did have one long catch on a throw from Frye, a nice back shoulder grapb over John Bowie

– Russell wasn’t as sharp as he was in the previous practice, missing open receivers occasionally but throwing no interceptions.

– Left end Greg Ellis was rested for much of practice, with Jay Richardson, who was getting second- and third-team work, elevated to the first team.

– Left guard Robert Gallery, a spectator through most of the practices, was instead working out with a member of the athletic training staff and doing agility drills.

– There was a post-practice scuffle that appeared to be between tight end Tony Stewart and linebacker Jon Alston. According to one account, Stewart thought Alston had hit him in the face when the play was over.

Cable said he thought it was nothing, a practical joke. Alston smiled and said he wasn’t involved.

– The running back rotation remains fairly even, with Darren McFadden getting lots of work split wide in some formations. McFadden has dropped catchable balls in each of the last two practices.

– Pass protection appeared to improve slightly, in part because blitzing was less frequent.

– I’ll file a brief post recapping the 4:20 p.m. practice . . .
 
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DHB, receivers catching on
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009 at 7:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits following Tuesday’s second practice:


Looking for some good news about Darrius Heyward-Bey?

How about 16 passes targeted, 14 receptions. No. 11 was a one-handed snag near the sideline. One of the misses was on a low pass, the other could well have been a pass interference penalty on Chris Johnson, with the ball falling to the ground.

– DHB wasn’t the only one. It’s possible Will Franklin has dropped as many passes as Heyward-Bey since the beginning of camp, but no one knows it because, well, he’s Will Franklin. Franklin caught everything thrown his way Tuesday afternoon, including one sideline dart from JaMarcus Russell in front of Nnamdi Asomugha.

– Russell wasn’t as sharp in full team sessions as he was in 7-on-7 and drills, but there were sequences where he threw the ball very well. Better than at any open sessions during the offseason, and more consistently than any time during training camp last year.

– OK, there was one bad-hands sequnce during passing drills when Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens and Jonathan Holland dropped passes in succession, although you could argue that they weren’t the easiest chances.

– Darren McFadden showed off the type of speed he had all through camp last year but lost in Week 2 agianst Kansas City when he was isolated on a swing pass to the left. He caught a perfectly thrown pass from Charlie Frye, accelerating into the ball, then squeezed past John Bowie and Darrick Brown _ both who seemed to have angles on him.

– Johnnie Lee Higgins got loose behind Bowie and Brown and caught a touch pass from Bruce Gradkowski for a big gainer. He mishandled a pass a short time later on a ball that may or may not have been in his reach, and it was the first time all camp I saw a pass hit the hands of JLH and not remain caught.

– Michael Huff has continued his maddening habit of being very tight with his coverage but still being just a fraction of a second late when the ball arrives, giving up the catch.

– Not sure if it will ever be useful in a game, but special teams coach John Fassel conducted a relay-type drill designed to help defenders pick up a fumble and score.

A football was placed on a cone, with a player lining up in a three-point stance in front of another player with a blocking pad. At the sound of the whistle, he got past the chuck, ran to the cone and knocked the ball on the ground. Then a player, racing up behind him, attempted to pounce on the fumble and make it to the end zone.

A few yards away, the there was another group doing the same thing at the same kind. In the closest heat, Jerome Boyd and Murphy appeared to cross the end zone in a photo finish, with no winner determined because the horn blew to go on to more important things.

– Defensive end Greg Ellis sat out his second straight practice. Coach Tom Cable said after the first session Ellis was not missing practice due to injury, but to keep him fresh throughout camp. If Ellis doesn’t go in Wednesday’s single practice, something is sore or injured.

– Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett worked with quarterbacks on their footwork and selling a draw play out of a spread formation.

“Make it look realistic, make it look realistic,” Hackett said. “Slow them down.”

– Lineabacker Isaiah Ekejiuba missed the second practice, and fullback Oren O’Neal took the session off after participating in consecutive padded workouts.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch continues to excel in coverage.

– Kirk Morrison, who gave way to Ricky Brown at middle linebacker for much of the first practice, was back with the first team in the second session.

Morrison attempted to blitz Russell with to his left, only to have Cornell Green pick it up perfectly and wall him off. The result was a Gradkowski-to-Darrell Strong completion in front of Huff.

The Raiders practice once at 3:30 p.m. Wednesday and I’ll be available for an on-line chat at 11 a.m. before I head to Napa.
 
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Report: Barnes out 4-6 weeks

By SBI Staff

Posted Aug 4, 2009


Scout's Adam Caplan reports Raiders' potential starting left tackle out until start of regular season.

"Oakland Raiders OLT Khalif Barnes was injured during Tuesday morning's training camp practice. Barnes, who signed a one-year, $1.2 million deal with Oakland in March, suffered a hairline fracture to his left ankle, a league source told Scout.com.

Barnes is expected to miss four to six weeks, which puts him out until at least the beginning of the regular
 
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THAT'S WHAT I KNOW YOU'RE HOPING.

I PREDICT WE SWEEP YOU THIS SEASON, SCARY. HAHAH

Thats not shit talking at all, it really sounds like the same exact type of shit I heard from tc reports when we first had him.

my intial bet would be hell no you arent sweeping us but this team still doesnt have an identity on defense and the o side hasnt practiced as a full squad since day 1 so we'll see.

give me a couple weeks so I can see them in person my self a couple times.

I have already gone on record more then once saying that we wil lsuck i am not denying that but a sweep by Oak...don't know about that.
 
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i dont feel like reading all these pages ive missed so if this has been mentioned already my bad but according to raiders.com javon walker has been placed on the physically unable to perfom list just so everyone knows if it hasnt been stated
 

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Its whatever if he didnt want to be here......i dont want him here

so im not really trippin im pretty positive we got pats 3 and 5th rounders
 
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With Rod Woodson entering the Pro Football Hall of Fame this weekend, Scouts Inc. takes a look at the top five cornerbacks playing in the NFL today.


1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders -- Simply the best; the Raiders' opponents don't even challenge Asomugha anymore. It just isn't worth it, even when he is matched up against an offense's No. 1 wide receiver, which is often the case. One of the things that really sets Asomugha apart is his size. He is tall (6-2) and long-limbed. Players with that type of build simply should not be able to move and change direction like Asomugha does. He can neutralize the smaller, quicker guys in the Steve Smith mold or he can do combat with big, physical Terrell Owens types who often outmuscle their opponents. If someone does catch a pass against Asomugha, as a fundamentally sound wrap-up tackler, he is extremely quick to put the receiver on the ground. Asomugha will not post great stats, but he eliminates one side of the field and allows the rest of the Raiders' defense to play 10-on-10 against the offense, often with the best wide receiver out of the picture. He is worth every penny of the contract that he recently signed with the Raiders.


2. Champ Bailey, Denver Broncos -- Yes, he is getting up in age and might be slightly past his prime, but with a somewhat respectable pass rush, he would be the one player on this list who could challenge Asomugha for the top spot. While Asomugha was clearly the top choice, Bailey was the clear No. 2. Still, we would be remiss if we did not mention his recent injury history. He has had groin and elbow injuries over the past two years, which at his age (31) cannot be taken lightly. He played hurt last year and was a liability in coverage. But before the injury, he was nearly unbeatable. The putrid Denver pass rush also had an impact on his play. A lack of pressure will make any corner look worse than he truly is. Bailey is a bigger corner who isn't afraid to throw his body around against big wideouts or in the running game. He is going to the Hall of Fame if he doesn't play another snap, but expect him to rebound in a big way this season.


3. Darrelle Revis, New York Jets -- Revis is the puppy of the group, but he has an extremely bright future. He was superb under Eric Mangini, but with Rex Ryan taking over and bringing his aggressive defensive tendencies to the Jets, Revis' talents should be showcased even more. But, like Asomugha, Revis is far better than his other defensive backfield mates in coverage and may not see a ton of passes. He has excellent hands and is very dangerous once he gets the ball. He's also an accomplished return man. His route-reading ability and feel for opposing wide receivers will only improve as he is a bright young man who takes his craft very seriously. Although he has good size and more growth potential, some of the bigger, more physical wideouts in the league can give him a hard time. But don't expect that to be the case much longer.


4. Asante Samuel, Philadelphia Eagles -- The consummate playmaking, read-and-react zone cornerback, Samuel simply makes a lot of plays. Samuel has benefited from being on many very good defenses that put a lot of pressure on opposing quarterbacks, but you can't deny his ability to bait quarterbacks, read the route and utilize his ball skills, which are exceptional. Samuel is very fluid in all his movements, yet explosive and decisive when attacking the football. He breaks up a lot of passes and consistently gets his hands on the football. Samuel has 20 interceptions in three seasons. Expect that pace to continue.


5. Charles Woodson, Green Bay Packers -- Woodson and Al Harris make up one of the top cornerback duos. With its switch to a 3-4 scheme this season, Green Bay should be going to more zone coverages as opposed to its typical man-to-man schemes. Woodson should have little problem with the change and is adept at playing tight man, loose man or zone. Remember, this is a Heisman Trophy winner, and while his remarkable athleticism may not be what it once was, he is still a very impressive specimen. Woodson also has shown the ability to play safety if needed, much like another Woodson who is being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Safety would be a likely spot for him to end his career while still flourishing as a playmaker in the secondary.
 

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he good news for Darren McFadden was that it didn't take him long to prove he could make an impact in the NFL.

In Week 2 last season, McFadden exploded for 164 yards on 21 carries, leading the Raiders to a win at Kansas City. McFadden had a 50-yard run and quickly displayed why Oakland took him with the No. 4 overall pick in the draft. It was a great start to his career.

The bad news: That performance was the last impactful game of his rookie season. He never ran for more than 46 yards or had more than 14 carries in a game the rest of the season. Because of nasty turf toe injuries, the former Arkansas game-breaker was unable to live up to expectations. He missed three games because of the injuries and had only 113 carries and 29 receptions.

"Last year wasn't what I expected," McFadden said recently at Oakland's training camp. "It was frustrating, but I know I can do it ... I think about that Kansas City game, because it showed what I can do. But it was just one game. I have to put it all together."


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Darren McFadden flashed his potential by gaining 164 yards on the Chiefs in Week 2 last season.
There is little doubt in Oakland that McFadden can put it all together as a second-year player. Health is the key and now McFadden is completely recovered from his injuries. He looked crisp and explosive in the training camp practices I saw. His speed is off the charts.

McFadden's true value is his versatility, and it's the primary reason why Oakland bypassed other pressing needs in 2008's draft. In addition to being a gifted runner, he is dangerous as a receiver and he can return kicks if needed. And don't be surprised if McFadden, who was a Wildcat star in college, is used in the formation more in his second year than the Raiders did last year.

Watch for McFadden to line up wide as a receiver in several formations. This can confuse opposing defenses, and with an unproven receiving crew, McFadden can help give life to the passing game.

It is clear that Raiders coach Tom Cable is counting the days to unleash the many faces of Darren McFadden.

"It's better for everyone," Cable said of McFadden's ability to play receiver. "It's a real key for us."

I simply get the feeling that the McFadden we all expected to see will show himself in his second season. If Oakland's offense makes significant strides, it will be because of a strong reliance on McFadden.

There are, of course, limitations. McFadden will make an impact but he is probably more Reggie Bush than Adrian Peterson. He would have a difficult time being a workhorse because of he isn't the biggest back in the league and he has a history of injuries. McFadden will be much more effective carrying the ball 15 to 18 times a game rather than 25 to 30.

That is a realistic proposition. Oakland is as deep as any team in the NFL at tailback. The Raiders also posses intriguing power back Michael Bush and yardage-eater Justin Fargas. The Raiders want McFadden to be the first option, but he'll have help.

McFadden believes the three-headed monster will work in Oakland after some rough spots last season.

"I love that we have three guys," McFadden said. "We can really throw different things at defenses. Plus, every running back in the NFL is going to get banged up. Having three guys will keep us fresh ... We can be really dangerous."

McFadden can be the most dangerous of all three. His performance thus far in training camp shows there could be many days ahead that will make people remember Week 2 of the 2008 season.

"That game gave me a good taste," McFadden said. "I can't wait to show people that I can do that on a regular basis. That's what I'm looking to do in 2009."