THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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Aug 9, 2006
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ACCORDING TO JT THE BRICK RAIDERS ARE GONNA SIGN FB LORENZO NEAL SOLID PICK UP EVEN THOUGH HE IS GETTIN OLD I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS AT FRESNO STATE WITH DILFER WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
that would be solid. where ever lorenzo go the running game improves...no matter how old he is no body on the current raiders roster is better...if we didnt have one of the better FBs in the leauge id want L.N. to return to the titans
 

Tony

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^^^^^Me too! DHB looks to be the real deal... I think a lot of Raider fans are starting to realize what he could bring to our offense. We need that deep vertical threat just to open up our offense.
 

corinthian

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saw this post at footballguys, thought it should be reposted here.

"bad draft"? Nope, not me. I was miserable on draft day, too. But now the draft is over, and these kids are on our team. The Kipers/Mayock's/McShays are done and gone, and taken their grades with them. Everyone agrees, in the abstract, that drafts cannot be graded until three years later, but no one keeps that in mind when 'actually' talking about the picks.

And that's cool, I love the draft, and wish we had taken better players. Excuse me, players that Scott Wright and Kiper and Mayock had thought were better. Because god knows I didn't watch any Maryland games last year, or any Ohio U games. And you know what? Mayock didn't see any Ohio U games either. You think Scott Wright or Bloom has the defensive tape of Ohio U games? Of course not.

I really wish we had gotten a better grade from the draft guys. Like the year we took Gallery at #2 (over Fitz and Big Ben), and took Jake Grove in the 2nd round. God, we got such good grades that year!! Build from the lines, that's how winners do it, the Raiders got two cornerstones for their line! Nice, safe pick. Or the year we took Buchanon and Nap Harris in the first round. Great picks, both of them, nobody said anything but great things that year.

I hate the years when we take players like Nnamdi Asomougha. We got laughed at harder than DHB that year, because the 'experts' had him ranked as a fourth rounder, maybe a 3rd. Do you remember that year? I do. Luckily, we made a comeback in the 2nd round, because we got a true weapon in the passing game when we took Teyo Johnson.


All I am saying is that we are all so sure of things before the draft, myself included. But a month after the draft, the draft grades mean nothing. I've seen too many good grades be wrong, and vice versa, to let one draft of 'perceived' bad value change my mid about what has been, IMO, a very good offseason.
 
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Heres some interesting stats regarding Russells 2nd year..

everyones quick to hate on Russell who really didnt even play his 1st season..

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oak...ge-board/151075-hate-russell-if-you-want.html

But here is a little reality for you!

In his 2nd year Russell has been bashed by the media and even Raider fans. That made me want to do a little research and found some interesting numbers.

Looking at several QBs and what they did in the last 7 games of their 2nd year in the NFL. Here are the numbers; you will see that Russell in his 2nd year in the NFL was as good or better then all of these QBs in most categories. Imagine if we had one of them how much people would be complaining. Russell needs to improve but at the same rate ALL young QBs need to improve!

Elway
cmp 119
att 209
yd 1520
TD 12
INT 8
cmp% 0.56937799
Y/A 7.272727273
Y/C 12.77310924

Manning
cmp 145
att 222
yd 1616
TD 9
INT 5
cmp% 0.653153153
Y/A 7.279279279
Y/C 11.14482759

Farve
cmp 153
att 244
yd 1602
TD 7
INT 11
cmp% 0.62704918
Y/A 6.56557377
Y/C 10.47058824

Russell
cmp 93
att 152
yd 1134
TD 7
INT 4
cmp% 0.611842105
Y/A 7.460526316
Y/C 12.19354839

Rivers (This was actually his 3rd year because he didn't start his 2nd year)
cmp 102
att 186
yd 1303
TD 9
INT 6
cmp% 0.548387097
Y/A 7.005376344
Y/C 12.7745098

Brees
cmp 159
att 267
yd 1292
TD 5
INT 5
cmp% 0.595505618
Y/A 4.838951311
Y/C 8.125786164

Fouts
cmp 62
att 133
yd 1027
TD 5
INT 8
cmp% 0.466165414
Y/A 7.721804511
Y/C 16.56451613
 

M.o.B

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Pisses me off when mothafuckas hate on russell

Most qbs don't do good in their first 2 seasons......
The 3rd year is when most turn into the franchise qb that's what I think is gonna happen with russel