THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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I always called Garcia a faggot but hes good in the westcoast offense system. Im pretty sure hes been signed to help with J.R's progression and if JR went down we would have a solid backup. If we can get 2 solid wide recievers before the season starts i will be so hyped for the season to start, the most since 2003.
 

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if Russel is as bad as he was last year Garcia will be playing by week 3/4 no question...

just funny to me...Raider fans were the biggest shit talkers of VY...and now they seem JR as "promising"...its all laughable when its raiders fan i guess..
lol kinda funny, it does seem very possible

Garcia = Kerry Collins

in that scenario, and weak ass JR gets sent to the pine, karma at its finest in the making lol
 

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I always called Garcia a faggot but hes good in the westcoast offense system. Im pretty sure hes been signed to help with J.R's progression and if JR went down we would have a solid backup. If we can get 2 solid wide recievers before the season starts i will be so hyped for the season to start, the most since 2003.
Oh so now thats hes a gayder, u wanna ride his dick, yall got a fag on ur team (Since solitary and many others always said he was a fag)


lol @ the 49ers supporting the glaad shit

but the raiders have a homosexual in their locker room
 

Meta4iCAL

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lol kinda funny, it does seem very possible

Garcia = Kerry Collins

in that scenario, and weak ass JR gets sent to the pine, karma at its finest in the making lol
so you're saying the Raiders are gonna be the Titans of last year and end up with the best record in the AFC?

good shit... I'll take it
 

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so you're saying the Raiders are gonna be the Titans of last year and end up with the best record in the AFC?

good shit... I'll take it
lol and thatll mean JR is a BUST

Titans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raiders

By a HUGE margin. Titans have a successful head coach, and a great team, on and off paper, the raiders have a perennial loser for a HC, no OC (Passing Game Coordinator and position coaches lol) and John Marshall lol another 49er retread, RAiders aint shit without Niners... and if they are successful this year, its cuz of former niners lol. but dont get ur hopes up raiderettes, they will be 4+ games under .500
 

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^^^Man I can't even understand what's this dude is saying
Stop worrying about our problems and worry about your teams problems which are alot slot
 

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Garcia: I’m here to help JaMarcus

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, April 7th, 2009 at 8:12 am in Oakland Raiders.

NBC Bay Area, which broke the original story of Jeff Garcia signing with the Raiders, managed to get a few questions in to the club’s newest quarterback at the security gate before he went into seclusion:

Jeff Garcia: It’s great to be back in the Bay Area, to be back close to home and obviously, having been a fan of Bay Area sports ever since I was a little kid, just to be back and have a chance to maybe finish off my career here in Oakland would be the ideal thing for me. Today was just a lot of getting back to football related issues and getting to meet my teammates for the first time, and getting to meet with the coaches, and do those necessary things in order to hopefully help this team win football games.

Q: Before heading to Tampa Bay, talk that you might come to Oakland. What wasn’t right about it at the time, what is right about it now?

Garcia: At the time it wasn’t right because I just had feelings that they were going to go after a quarterback in the first round, which is what they did, and I felt like at the time, Tampa Bay was just a better fit for me as far as where I was as a player and what I could do for that team, basically having been given the starting spot by signing there. Me coming back , I know that I’m somewhat at the latter part of my career. I still feel like I still have a lot to offer, still have a lot to bring to a team. But it’s really about my family now. My family, personally, is getting bigger. We live in California. We didn’t want to have to pack up and move across the country again. It’s great to be close to home. It’s great to be playing for a team I grew up being a big fan of. I was a huge fan of so many of the former Raiders, the Ken Stablers, the Jim Plunketts, the Mark vanEeghens, so many of the historical names that are associated with this team, and now to be associated with that is a very positive thing for me.

Q: Status behind Russell . . .

Garcia: I realize that JaMarcus right now is the anointed starter. I’m going to support him and help him any way that I can. Part of helping him is by pushing him and showing him what I’m capable of as a player also. I think that it’s important to show that this team has depth in all positions and quarterback is definitely going to be one of those positions that there will be positive depth at and if he, for some reason, can’t do it, then hopefully I’m the guy that can do it. It’s one of those things where I’m going to be very supportive of him. He has so much talent within himself, hopefully I can just help to bring it out, in him, and also, help be a leader on this team, and help bring this team together as a unit and allow us to play together as a team every Sunday and compete at a high level.

Raiders hope Johnson a system fit

Marcus Johnson spent an underwhelming four years with the Minnesota Vikings unable to seize a starting position despite enough skill to make him the 49th player selected in the 2005 draft.

The Raiders hope Johnson, officially signed Monday along with Garcia, has enough mobility and athleticism to make a successful conversion to the zone blocking system.

Johnson’s ability to play both tackle and guard (he’s predominantly a right side player), along with the presence of fellow free agent signee Erik Pears, makes things more precarious for veteran tackle Cornell Green.

The loser of the Khalif Barnes-Mario Henderson battle on the left side could also figure at right tackle.

Johnson’s signing with Oakland put the finishing touches on a Vikings draft class that was a complete bust.
 

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12:59
jerrymac:

Thanks for joining me . . . time to get started . . .
12:59
[Comment From Felipe ( Carlsbad]
Mayock predicted the Raiders to pick Bay at 7....are they that bold?
1:00
jerrymac: I can see where Mayock is going with that pick. He studies not only the players, but the type of player teams like to draft. Heyward-Bey is indeed a classic Al size-speed pick. But do I think they'd do it at 7? I think they'd trade back if they wanted him, realizing they could get another pick out of it . . .
1:00
[Comment From miller80]
I like Michael Bush but to me he is a luxury we cant afford. I think we could get a good receiver for him. I think Arizona would be an ideal partner. Bush and #40 pick for Boldin.
1:02
jerrymac: When it comes down to it, Bush is a fourth-round pick with two good games and someone who resisted a chance to get on the field because he didn't want to play fullback. At least that's how the opposing team will approach it in a trade. That said, you won't get enough to justify a deal and you need three good backs. If Arizona would do that deal, you'd have to consider it. Don't think they would.
1:02
[Comment From ELWAYs TEETH]
The Raiders are bringing in a lot of FA offensive lineman, many of whom were higher round draft picks who have not performed up to expectations. Is this Cable's way of finding out if these guys can perform at a high level in his ZB scheme?
1:03
jerrymac: ZBS schemes often find players who haven't played well elsewhere and turn them into productive players. It's not fullproof, however _ witness Kwame Harris. At present they're looking to bring a handful of players and hope a few work out. None come at a huge price, so it's a sound concept.
1:03
[Comment From Jason]
With the news that DT Raji didnt test positive on the drug test, do you think the Raiders will go after him or will they stick with an OT or WR in the first round. I hear Ramses is good to go to the Raiders in the 2nd round.....
1:05
jerrymac: The news was that Raji denies failing a drug test. Each team will make its own determination. Raji also missed a year of college with academic deficiencies, was suspended for a game for punching an opponent and there is another report saying teams were informed of a marijuana issue in college. It's up to each team to decide what they really think. If you're right and Barden is their pick in the second, then they won't be taking a WR in Rd. 1 and Raji is in play.
1:05
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
Jerry with the signing of garcia which QB will be traded or released???
1:06
jerrymac:

Walter doesn't want to be here. Cable wants guys who want to be here. My guess is they hope to get a late-round pick, or even use him to move up a few spots to get someone they want in a later round. If they got anything better than a sixth I'd be surprised.
1:06
[Comment From Greg S.]
Hey Mac, w/ the signing of Garica, does JR have more pressure to perform because he might lose his starting job?
1:07
jerrymac: No pressure in getting beaten out as a starter, but a subtle competition each day both on the field and in the film room and meeting room. Makes for an interesting dynamic.
1:07
[Comment From jwraider]
Did the Raiders really upgrade by changing DCs? (just pretending ROb could have stayed). Outside of Nnamdi I'm trying to find something to get excited about and I don't see any improvements in run defense or pass rush.
1:07
jerrymac: Absolutely no way to know until we see the defense play.
1:07
[Comment From Greg S.]
It's 18 days until the draft, do you have any idea on who the Raiders will most likely choose for their 7th round pick?
1:08
jerrymac:

1-Crabtree; 2-Raji; 3-Orapko; 4-Brown

And your guess is as good (or better) than mine.
1:08
[Comment From Greg S.]
I've noticed more OT's have been signed recently. Are safety's going to be more of an issue in the draft?
1:09
jerrymac:

it would be a safety similar to Tyvon Branch in terms of the round selected (fourth).
1:09
[Comment From Raider Nation 951]
Jerry, Any news on the JaMarcus Weight Watch 2009?
1:10
jerrymac: No media access until the first minicamp. He's been seen at Warrior games but in loose fitting clothes . . . the cynic in me said that if Russell was suddenly in the low 260s and had changed his body, the Raiders would find a way to make sure people knew about it.
1:10
[Comment From 2nd coming of Bo Jackson]
The Raiders are going to trade down to Philly or Denver for 2 picks in the first round.
1:10
jerrymac: Philly maybe. The Gerard Warren trade aside (for a much later pick) I don't see them dealing with a division rival for stakes that high.
1:10
[Comment From blackdeath29]
is alex mack out of the raiders plans?
1:11
jerrymac: Satele's acquisition likely means Mack is not a factor.
1:11
[Comment From eddiej]
How badly would JaMarcus have to play for Garcia to see some playing time?
1:12
jerrymac:

If Russell plays like the guy who went the first nine games or so, things will get interesting. If he's the 60 percent passer who didn't carry a passing offense but managed the game well, as he did later in the season, he'll keep playing.
1:12
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
Do you see Al going for WR plexico?
1:13
jerrymac:

They didn't make a move for T.O. Not interested in Michael Vick, apparently. So no on Plaxico. And no on Chad Johnson, either. National media focuses on the Raiders/renegades, taking anyone, etc. Right now they're doing the opposite. Maybe Al has a surprise for us, but that's not the way to bet based on recent weeks.
1:14
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
Wouldnt vick be better for oakland than garica?
1:16
jerrymac: I thought Vick would be an extremely creative and interesting option, if he would agree to play for the minimum, understand he isn't the QB, and be OK with being used in different ways. Garcia is the much safer option and much better in terms of giving Russell someone to look at in terms of preparation, work ethic, etc. Plus he's more of a conventional QB who has played recently if Russell were to get hurt. Vick would be fun to watch and cover as a media member, but I've got to admit Garcia is the smarter move. I didn't know if he'd come here knowing he'd be a backup.
1:16
[Comment From Chris in NJ]
Jerry Hoping Burgess has a big season in his $$$ year, but worried about the pass rush. Think there's a chance Raiders would send a 6th or 7th rd pick to NYG to bring Dave Tollefeson back or is he too similar to Scott?
1:16
jerrymac: Tollefson is a hard worker, overachiever, a decent player, but he's played on the NYG defensive line _ which means his teammates are terrific and it helps his play. He's a reserve player, no more.
1:17
[Comment From Greg]
Do you think Oakland is considering Raji at #7 or is he not in their top guys? He seems like such a perfect fit alongside T. Kelly at such a big position of need.
1:17
jerrymac:

Most scouts project Raji as a three-technique or a nose. Kelly plays the three, the Raiders don't play a lot of 3-4. But one scouting report identified him as ``the premiere run-stopper in college football.'' For that reason alone, they've got to look hard at him.
1:17
[Comment From 2nd coming of Bo Jackson]
I love Fargas, but wouldnt it be wiser to trade him instead of Bush. Both he and DMac are young and you need that two headed monster.
1:18
jerrymac: Good luck getting anything better than a fourth or fifth-round pick with the high-mileage, high-collision Fargas.
1:18
[Comment From Paul]
Do you think Oakland may surprise and grab Andre Smith at #7? Cable suggested that OT was still a big need and this guy was the top OT available not that long ago.
1:19
jerrymac: My guess is they're doing a little saturation bombing with regard to tackles (Pears, Barnes, Marcus Johnson) adding them to the mix with Henderson, and hoping for a couple of them to pan out.
1:19
[Comment From Raider O]
Hello Jerry You are doing a lot better at posting news, thank you Sir. Other than OLB J Williams, who else is schd for visits?
1:20
jerrymac:

Raiders have not confirmed any visits and activity has been slow. Which doesn't mean a lot, frankly. Tyvon Branch had no idea the Raiders were even interested in him last year.
1:20
[Comment From Eliseo R From Salinas, CA]
Now having to sign Jeff Garcia others say it may create QB controversy with Russell what do you think about that? Also I myself think was a good idea to sign him to help him mentor Russell with good work ethic also we have a good backup to help us incase Russell gets hurt what's your take on that.
1:22
jerrymac: Can't find the negatives in this acquisition, considering who was already on the roster. If Russell doesn't respond to the competition or take to Garcia as a teammate, that's his issue (and a potentially troublesome one). Russell has been the big star with little or no competition everywhere he's been. Garcia has fought for everything he's got. It should help russell to have him around.
1:22
[Comment From mavdog101]
What's the latest on Al finding someone to help with the football operations?
1:23
jerrymac: Indications are that it's predominantly an Al-Tom Cable operation at this point _ and I think it's been a pretty good partnership so far.
1:23
[Comment From MN Raider]
Hey Jerry, who would you rather see the Raiders draft Orakpo or Raji?
1:23
jerrymac: Raji because he's advertised as a run-stuffer. Run-stuffing is what they need more than any other element other than strong QB play.
1:23
[Comment From MN Raider]
What is your opinion of Barden? Hype or the real deal?
1:24
jerrymac:

All I've seen is Youtube videos, of a big, strong, fast WR dominating inferior competition. I'll leave that up to the guys who do it for a living.
1:25
[Comment From Steve Nicholson]
With all of the signings and coaching changes the Raiders have done, nothing will change in terms of wins until they stop the run. How will that be addressed with the likes of Kelly, Sands, and Warren still on the roster?
1:25
jerrymac: Got the impression that Cable doesn't view Warren as a liability in that area. Agree its an issue, hard to imagine a new coordinator is going to fix the problem with the same personnel.
1:26
[Comment From blackdeath29]
do the raiders view jeramy maclin as a JLH clone or the second best wr in the draft?
1:27
jerrymac: Lots of mixed signals, which is something the Raiders love to do. There's talk of Barden, Maclin, Heyward-Bey . . . seems to be a lot of people thinking they'll take Crabtree despite the lack of alleged ``Raider speed.'' If they REALLY like JLH, and I think Cable does, I don't see Maclin as the bet fit in that group.
1:28
[Comment From RAIDERfromHONDURAS]
How many years was Garcia signed for? Do you have contract details?
1:28
jerrymac:

My understanding is it's for one year, at somewhere near the minimum. Wouldn't be surprised if there's playing-time incentives in case he ends up on the field, but that's a guess.
1:28
[Comment From yayarea_raider]
You think the Raiders could try and package Walter and Huff on draft day for a late rounder?
1:29
jerrymac:

Sounds like a garage sale.
1:29
[Comment From wildabeast]
what is it about crabtree that make him a top 10 pick? he's slow, short, and played against inferior competition and he has never seen a double team cuz of the offense they ran. so again what makes him top 10 worthy?
1:30
jerrymac: Talked to one GM who said there is plenty of film which proves Crabtree can separate, get to the ball in flight, and make plays . . . route-running is a concern _ his offense has about four routes, I'm told. But his ability to get to and catch the ball is thought to be the best in the draft.
1:30
[Comment From yayarea_raider]
This year the Raiders need to pass on the flashy pick. they have a lot of talent of offense and need to fix their front seven whether their first pick be a d-linemen or LB. You agree and you thoughts?
1:31
jerrymac: They won't draft an LB at No 7 unless Morrison and/or Howard's role is reduced. They have no intention of paying No. 7 money to a LB who is not on the field for every down.
1:31
[Comment From Anand]
Jerry - any reason why the Raiders didn't go after Torry Holt or Marvin Harrison? They'd seem to be great role models for the young WR corps we have now...
1:32
jerrymac: Aging, primarily artificial turf players in a division where all eight home games and three road opponents in the AFC West will all be on grass at minimum.
1:32
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
Do you think with raji smoking habbits will drop him in raiders draft plans????
1:33
jerrymac: Depends on whether they think it's truly a ``habit'' like Ricky Williams, or merely a youthful indiscretion he can control to become a professional (assuming there is, ahem, smoke to go with the fire)
1:33
[Comment From Big Dale]
Hey Jerry First Time here. Do you think Aaron is the best player in the draft and wouldnt it be great to land him in Raiderville.
1:33
jerrymac: Can't see any scenario in which Aaron Curry gets to No. 7. Hard to find anyone seeing him get past KC at No. 3.
1:34
[Comment From 909RaiderLifer]
JerryMac..THANK YOU, for your perseverance in getting the blog registered. It is much better now without the trolls, and the juvinile vitriol. Keep up the good work!
1:34
jerrymac: So far, a big improvement, I agree. Better than I imagined . . . should have happened a long time ago. Probably should have been more adamant about it, in retrospect.
1:34
[Comment From 2nd coming of Bo Jackson]
Does Thomas Howard, Zach Miller, and Tommy Kelly have a chance to make thier first pro bowl this year. (yeah i said Tommy Kelly, it takes 2 years to recover from ACL surgery)
1:35
jerrymac: Pro Bowls are usually based on wins and losses. If the Raiders can contend for the division title, then perhaps. (Had my doubts about Kelly before the surgery, so I'll believe it when I see it).
1:35
[Comment From RaiderRockstar]
Jerry, if the Raiders trade down with the Eagles, wouldn't Oher & Brace be better options than DHB or Mack?
1:37
jerrymac: Not sure Oher is considered quick and mobile enough for ZBS. Brace is interesting because he played with Raji _ they're both huge _ and it makes it more difficult to determine which one was doing the heavy lifting and which one was benefitting from the attention the other man got.
1:37
[Comment From MN Raider]
Who is going to be the Raiders breakout player in the coming year? (a la Nnamdi & JLH most recently)
1:37
jerrymac: If it's not JaMarcus Russell, then it could be another 10-plus loss season.
1:38
[Comment From yayarea_raider]
I don't see Crabtree or Maclin as a top 10 pick. I actually like receivers Nicks and Robiskie more. I also think the Raiders would be better off addressing their defense their first couple of picks before they think they need to draft a receiver
1:38
jerrymac: I think you're in the minority regarding Crabtree, at least. Doesn't mean you're wrong. Receivers are historically very difficult to judge.
1:38
[Comment From raidefan72]
What do you think of the strongside linebacker situation?
1:39
jerrymac: No true SSL (essentially a one, or two-down player with the Raiders), with Ricky Brown, Jon Alston, etc.
1:39
[Comment From RAIDER in Charlotte]
Whats our bottom line on the Receiving needs? Are we going to address it in the Draft or are we going to get it via Trade or Free Agency???
1:40
jerrymac: Whether it was B.S. or not only he knows, but Davis seemed to go out of his way to talk about how much he loved Higgins and Schillens. They could be the plan. I'd like to add a Garcia-like veteran my preference would be Amani Toomer but only if the scouts and coaches think he's got enough left to contribute some stats as well, much like Isaac Bruce did last year for the 49ers.
1:41
[Comment From Sherm]
Any chance the "saturation bombing" method happens on the D-Line? What about Tank Johnson?
1:41
jerrymac: Tank Johnson would fall into the category of the troubled player with baggage the Raiders have been ignoring.
1:42
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
Ive seen alot of tape Raji is good but i feel that DT Jerry is better....what do you think?
1:43
jerrymac: Where does everyone get ``tape?'' I've seen highlights, that's all. And formulating your opinions on selected highlights is dangerous.
1:43
[Comment From bg22958]
Raji, Raji, Raji. He is not the premier run stuffer in this class. His teammate Ron Brace is. You know the guy who helped B.C
1:43
jerrymac: Precisely the dilemma I referred to earlier with two 330-pound guys playing side-by-side. Determining who made who the better player.
1:43
[Comment From SpecialTeamz]
Hey Jerry...Why won't the Raiders release P/K Ricky Schmitt ?
1:44
jerrymac: Because Shane needs to rest his leg and needs time to golf during minicamps.
1:44
[Comment From Dan]
Do you see any chance of keeping Burgess, Howard, and Morrison past this year?
1:45
jerrymac:

With no labor agreement, Morrison and Howard would not have the six years necessary for unrestricted free agency, so the Raiders would have the right to match. Burgess is playing for a contract, with the Raiders or someone else. He's had declining production over the past few years because of injuries, etc.
1:45
[Comment From Bob]
Anything new on O. O'Neal? You were pretty spot on in your assessment of the weak WR core last year before the season began and I'm a little nervous that each report you have given on O'Neal suggests that he is still a long ways off.
1:47
jerrymac: Eager to see where he's at during minicamp access, and frankly, forgot to ask Cable for an update when we got him at Pro Day. We're supposed to talk to Cable before the draft and I'll try to remember to find out if he thinks O'Neal will be full-go when camp starts. A non-specific answer likely means they're still not sure where he's at.
1:47
[Comment From Steve]
Greyson Gunheim flashed a bit in the Bucs game. What do the Raiders say about him?
1:47
jerrymac: I think they like him a lot _ as if he might be a great bargain.
1:47
[Comment From RaiderRockstar]
Ricky Brown was a better player for Boston College than BJ Raji was. This guy is a high motor, good character tackling machine. Why do most people think he needs to be replaced? Before the injury last year he was better against the run than Morrison & Howard ...
1:49
jerrymac: And the run defense was still terrible. He was OK. Guessing if you ask 32 teams if Ricky Brown is better than Raji you'd get the same answer 32 times.
1:50
jerrymac: Of those three, probably Raji. All have risks. Raji addresses a very specific weakness. Not a good track record on Texas players in the pros. Raiders already have a WR who returns punts.
1:50
[Comment From Rusty Hilger]
How do teams, especially those near or just under the cap limit, pay for the incoming rookie class?
1:51
jerrymac:

Rookie cap limit is accounted for under their cap number and never ends up being a problem (or seldom, anyway). When was the last time you saw a team draft someone and say they didn't have enough money to sign him? Seems to me I remember it happening one time, but can't recall the team or player.
1:51
[Comment From Pascal]
Do you see the Raiders addressing defense with at least one of their first two picks
1:51
jerrymac: They've gone so offense-heavy, that yes, I think they'll try to add a fulltime or situational player for the defense with one of the first two picks . . .
1:52
[Comment From Raider Marcus32]
Pick Up Lorenzo Neal?
1:52
jerrymac: Garcia aside, they're going younger, not older. But if O'Neal isn't ready, you'd have to consider it.
1:52
[Comment From Wolverine Raider]
I find it very odd the Raiders didn't officially announce the Chris Johnson signing. I don't remember the team doing this in the past. Can you see any reason for it?
1:54
jerrymac: Nope. But being odd is what the Raiders do best. What other team signs its two most important free agents (Aso, Lechler) and fails to put them on the air so they can tell the world about all the great possibilities in Oakland? What other team signs a local player like Garcia, who loves to talk to the media and is a great quote, and keeps it all under wraps? You ask about it and they say, ``Because we just don't do that here.''

Translated _ because Al doesn't want to. Hey, it's his team.
1:54
[Comment From GenRaider]
Any chance of the Raiders flirting with Trading M. Huff during the NFL DRAFT?
1:55
jerrymac: Huff has been on the block since last offseason and there were no takers. After having lost his job to hiram Eugene, I can't imagine the market has gotten any better.
1:55
[Comment From miller80]
I think Roy Williams and D. Brooks would be good pickups. They are veterans and could figure out how to fit in. They can both play 1st and 2nd down only. I dont see how that wouldnt help. what are your thoughts?
1:56
jerrymac:

Again, older players with high mileage. Brooks is a Cover 2 guy since he started and pass defense has been his strength, so the first and second down thing doesn't necessarily work with him. Not sure how serious they are about Williams even his price drops to the minimum.
1:57
[Comment From Dark Raider 00]
I think if you put Huff back to his old position in college he will produce your thoughts?
1:57
jerrymac: College position is irrelevant as a pro. He's been a SS and a FS with the Raiders and hasn't produced at either.
1:57
[Comment From Brian Clark]
Why is it that the media discounts the fact that in Russell's last seven games, he completed over 60 percent of his passes and had a plus-90 QB Rating. Anyone else, and they'd say he's making progress. Seems like Jamarcus is always portrayed as overweight, unable to understand the system and a slacker. I, for one, think he's making/made real progress the last half of the season. Yet, the media portrays him as a quasi-bust. Through his first 16 games, he does have a better QB Rating than both Mannings.
2:00
jerrymac: I don't portray him as quasi-bust. He did make progress. He still must show he can carry a passing offense. Too many games with minimal attempts. He needs to be in better shape. I think all the ``just his body type'' stuff is BS. He can get in better shape for what he's being paid. And Tom Cable had a chance to really build him up at the owner's meetings and instead made it a point to talk about him knowing his responsibilities. It's a process, and he's going through it. Eli Manning was a bust until he won a Super Bowl.
2:00
[Comment From Guest]
Is there any reason why T. Sands was not cut?
2:01
jerrymac: They still think he might be able to help, and when he was good, a couple of years his strength (stopping the run) is their biggest weakness . . .

That's it until next week . . .
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lol kinda funny, it does seem very possible

Garcia = Kerry Collins

in that scenario, and weak ass JR gets sent to the pine, karma at its finest in the making lol
the thing about kerry collins is that he was on the team the same amount of time VY was...both were 2 year vets of the team going into the season that just passed....Garcia is a new-comer barely learning a new system..

not saying that VYs shit was pittyfull or downright embarssing but if garica comes in and starts during anytime of the season when JR is HEALTHY...that says more about JR then VY
 
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moorcock quit it already.

niners and the titans both have CERTIFIED busts and hope ,for the life of them, JR is a bust. getting satisfaction from another man failing is a terrible characteristic to have. a true sign of a hater. quit comparing ours with yours. you cant keep up with the joneses' with that mentality. you will be chasing them your whole life.
 

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Good post^^^ there's so much truth to it. I remember when I posted that "Is Alex Smith a Bust" thread and fools were on here having a fit. Now look at them... they're just wishing JR turns out to be a bust.