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Warriors may offer Ellis for Ray Allen



BOSTON — The trading deadline is less than a month away, and rumors seem to grow like algae.

This is especially true when it comes to players with expiring contracts such as Boston's Ray Allen.



While the Celtics have maintained repeatedly that they have no intentions of moving any of their core guys between now and the Feb. 18 trading deadline -- and I believe 'em on this one -- multiple league sources confirmed today that the Golden State Warriors are giving some thought to putting together a trade package that would involve Monta Ellis going to Boston in exchange for Allen.

The Warriors see rookie Stephen Curry as the face of the franchise moving forward. One league source said the Warriors believe that Curry won't develop at the rate they would like as long as Ellis is around.

Golden State saw flashes of just how talented Curry can be against New Jersey earlier this week when playing without Ellis.

With Ellis out with a sprained right ankle, Curry went off for a career-high 32 points.

For such a deal to work, the Warriors would have to include at least one additional salary. The most likely player to be included would be Vladamir Radmonovic, who has a player option after this season but isn't expected to exercise it.

Danny Ainge, Boston's president of basketball operations, has talked to a number of teams about a number of players recently.

But it doesn't appear that this is a deal he has given any serious thought to considering.

Ainge has said repeatedly that he wants to see how the Celtics, as they are currently constructed, play together when relatively healthy.

Boston has yet to play a game this season with an entirely healthy roster.

That means any deal involving the C's likely won't happen until shortly before the deadline, which is about the time that Marquis Daniels (left thumb) is expected back.

While this deal would certainly give Boston another high powered scorer, on the surface it appears to hurt them in many, many ways.

Of the team's Big Three, only the 34-year-old Allen has played in all 41 games this season. Meanwhile, Ellis has a history of injuries even before his most recent setback.

Plus, Ellis is one of those players who is at his best when he has the ball in his hands.

Doing that in Boston means taking it out of the hands of Rondo, which is something the Celtics don't want to do.

And then there's the whole issue of chemistry and defense - two areas that are not considered strongsuits of Ellis.

As you can see, adding a player of Ellis' caliber poses a number of challenges, the kind of challenges a veteran, championship-caliber team usually passes on.

While it's certainly worth monitoring, fans shouldn't expect to see Monta Ellis in a Celtics uniform anytime soon.

A. Sherrod Blakely can be reached at [email protected]

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Monta Ellis for Ray Allen? Are they Insane?.....Wait, curry drives and kicks out to ray allen for an automatic three.....Nah...dont do it....
 

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rumors are flying out of peoples asses right now. irresponsible ass "reporters" - SMH

i cant think of a player on our team i would trade for ray allen, ok fine probably devean george. or one of the injured expiring contracts.

but when thinking about real players, nope.
 
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u guys getting way too into this. its the nba trade season, almost every player is part of rumors. amare, bosh, boozer, chris paul, david west, ray allen, andrew bynum, tmac, josh howard, marcus camby, etc are all speculative trades. thats just how it goes.

like i said earlier ellis is pretty much off the table in any trades. he is our franchise player right now.


It's that time of year, when team executives start jockeying for position and the trade rumors start to swirl. Golden State almost assuredly will come up in more speculation. While some of it may not be true, one thing is certain: Change is practically a guarantee. The only question is when.

"We're in a situation where we need to look very strongly at change," general manager Larry Riley said. "Whether it's by Feb. 18 (trade deadline) or in the offseason, we're in a situation where we're going to have to make a change here."

Per team policy, Riley declined to comment on any specifics or some of the trade rumors. But according to multiple team sources, the Warriors have long since deemed Ellis as off-limits. No doubt, getting the Warriors to remove the untouchable tag would require more than Allen.

The same sources — in response to Sunday's report that the Warriors are interested in Phoenix's All-Star big man Amare Stoudemire — said Golden State hasn't talked to the Suns since last summer. Also, the Warriors have not backed off their refusal to give up anything significant for a player who won't sign a long-term extension upon arrival.

Getting a potential acquisition to commit longterm to the Warriors is one of the many obstacles Riley and his staff will face in their efforts to improve the roster.

Riley said he doesn't see making any minor trades though didn't completely rule out one by the deadline. He said if a deal he likes comes along before the deadline, he'll pull the trigger even if it takes the Warriors out of the running for the offseason sweepstakes expecting to take place. With that said, Riley said he isn't opposed to standing pat until the offseason.

The Warriors have some $12 million in expiring contracts on their roster in guards Raja Bell and Speedy Claxton, forward Devean George and center Chris Hunter. If Golden State stands pat, that money will come off the cap, giving them the potential to sign a free agent or pull off a sign-and-trade.

Either way, Riley said, he is certain to take advantage of the flexibility.

"I have never been told to try to go save money," Riley said. "I've been told to try to improve this basketball team. I do feel like I will get something done."

then theres this:

Nelson still maintains the guard's injury isn't serious, and Corey Maggette said Ellis wanted to fly to Phoenix and play but was held back by the Warriors' medical department. For someone averaging a league-high 42 minutes a game, perhaps the down time is welcomed.

"He wants to heal for the second half of the season," Maggette said. "He doesn't want to burn out right now. So they're giving him an opportunity to rest a couple of games."

Though Ellis still hasn't publicly spoken about the injury, talk within the team has been contradictory as to when in Friday's 111-79 win over New Jersey it occurred (nothing was detected from the telecast) and even to which ankle. Ellis had said the cold, rainy weather led to soreness in the left ankle, which was surgically repaired after his moped accident in 2008.

Nelson also previously referred to Ellis' left ankle, but Monday implied the problem is the right ankle.

"It's the right," Maggette said. "You know, man, the older you get, stuff aches here and there. I know a lot has to do with the weather. I feel it in my wrist and knee, where I had surgery. Remember, he still has screws in his (left) ankle. This time, it was the opposite ankle he twisted.

"He stepped on someone's foot off a defensive rebound. I saw him cringe, and he went back. But he's a warrior, man. He still continues to try to play."

Maggette said he might address the team tonight to remind everyone to "kick up the energy. Guys need to step up and be more aggressive. Without Monta (averaging 26.1 points and 5.5 assists), I consider that pretty much 50 percent of our scoring."

Briefly: Nelson literally laughed off a Boston-based Ellis-for-Ray Allen rumor. ... Vladimir Radmanovic (right Achilles tendon) is listed as doubtful for tonight.
 

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didnt see it in this thread but Monta's not playing tonight, hes saying he'll be ready for tomorrow nites game against the hornets.


VladRad is back tonight, big whoop

also

Warriors coach Don Nelson says he will retire when his contract expires after next season.
Ex-Warrior Stephen Jackson said on Monday that Nellie would retire after this season, prompting the coach's clarification. He is 10 wins away from tying Lenny Wilkins for all-time coaching victories (1,332).
 
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Warriors coach Don Nelson says he will retire when his contract expires after next season.
Ex-Warrior Stephen Jackson said on Monday that Nellie would retire after this season, prompting the coach's clarification. He is 10 wins away from tying Lenny Wilkins for all-time coaching victories (1,332).
FUCK! i guess i can stop counting down each time the Dubs win this season
 

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my cable box isnt working for some retarded reason...cbssports says maggette is 0 for 10 shooting so far??


in fact it looks like none of the warriors (Except for maybe curry right now) are shooting well


Tolliver- 2 for 9
Watson 0 for 3
martin 3 for 8
 

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^^i didnt have one, except maybe a confirmation that maggette is playing horrible.



and i guess his streak of great games had to come to an end at some point. 1 for 17???? Thats insane...i know Tim Hardaway had one of the worst shooting games in nba history with the W's, and he was 0 for 17.