The OFFICAL 9/11 thread "lest we forget"

[TROLL]

let us not fall for these conspiracy theories

On the heels of the anniversery lets reflect on how much evidence is needed for a theory too no longer become a theory... This thread was 5 dayz in the making.. lotta research done..

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1)Thermate was found at the craters of each building

2)Nearly half of the alleged hijackers are still alive today

3)the manuvers made by the plane moments before it hit the pentagon had air traffic controllers thinking it was a military plane, however, the alleged hijacker failed his courses at an arizona flight school, flying a single engine cesna due to problems controlling and landing the plane..

4)The FBI first tried to claim that the hijacker was a man who flew commercial planes in saudi arabia but then soon retracted their statement after finding out that man was still alive in saudi arabia

5)The 5 frames that were released to the public from the pentagon were altered instead of shown in their entirety.. also, the time stamp on them is false and when asked why it was the military stated they didnt know why.

6)Flight 77 disapeared from air traffic controllers near ohio and was unable to be detected until it showed up as a blip near the pentagon nearly an hour later..

7)The flight school in florida where the alleged terrorists earned their pilot licenses' had ties to the CIA and was operated by a fugitive in holland.

8)The pentagon holds more people in it then do most cities. However, the plane supposedly hit the only area of the building which was near empty and was renovated to with stand a plane running into it.

9)No pieces of the supposed plane that hit the pentagon were big enough that a person could not pick up and walk away with..

10)some witness claimed to have seen an airliner... some witnesses reported to have seen a private jet with no markings and some witness claimed to have seen a military helicopter circle the pentagon..

11)The north tower collapsed in 8.4 seconds... the time it takes a rock thrown from the 94th floor.. 8.4 seconds.. the towers fell at freefall speed. to put in perspective.. the towers fell at avg 10 floors per second's breaking the laws of physics because the floors would have slowed the collapse down. science has proven, pieces of a building cannot crash through steel and concreate as fast as they fall through the air

12)If the small explosions seen on the towers before the falling debris was really pancaked pressure being released from falling floors, then why are the centered releases only in a few areas and not widespread throught the floor?

13)Mayor Rudy Giuliani authorized the steel and pieces of debris to be destroyed. They victims families protested and asked FEMA to stop Giuliani, however it was too late and the mayors response was "I was unaware that people wanted me to keep the debris"

14)After a Zogby poll showed that 50% of new yorkers beleived that the government was behind 9/11, CNN aired a special demonizing the theories and at the end of the hour long show conducted their own poll and out of 7000 people surveyed 90% believed the government was behind the attacks, the anchors just shook their head.

15)Video was taken from nearby areas that would have gotten the whole incident on film, however, ALL were confiscated and a warning was given by the agents to the employees to not discuss what they had seen.

16)9/11 is the first time in history three buildings collapsed due to fire, the towers and building 7.

15)Never before in history has a black box been unsalvageable.. on 9/11 it was the first time in history that it supposedly happend 4 times!!

16)MSNBC ran a headline saying "Trade center warnings baffle police:the urban myth's turn out to be true" About hundreds of workers being warned by an isreali instant messaging service Odigo who recieved a warning and the company admitted to telling there workers about the threat.

17)Larry silverstein the landlord had only bought the entire building complex months before the attack and had taken out a record insurance policy on the building giving specific refrences to "acts of terror"

18)Larry Silverstein also said on camera that he gave the order to "pull it" the demolition term for detonating....however, non-believers say he meant "pull it" as in evacuate, however, they were unable to explain his following sentence of "and we watched the building collapse"

19)WTC 7 had the cities command control bunker, also inside the bulding were offices for Department of Defense, US secret service, FEMA, Central intelligence Agency, secruitys and exchange commision,

20)Rudy Giuliani was reported to have been told to leave WTC 7 to a bunker, which had been set up the previous day, before anyfires were reported in it.

21)George bushes youngest brother ran security for WTC7 and his contract expired, on 9/11

22)Steel melts at 2000 degrees jet fuel burns at a maximum 1200 degrees

23)The arcitect for the WTC towers went on record saying "we designed the towers to withstand multiple jumbo jet hits"

24)Senior fire fighter Lou Catchioli who survived the collapse told people magazine that bombs were placed and detonated inside the towers.


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Dan Rather on air watching a video of WTC 7 fall "for the 3rd time today, reminicsent of those pictures weve all seen too much of today already, a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down"

Gilah Goldsmith @the pentagon "we saw a huge black cloud of smoke, she said, saying it smelled like cordite, or gunsmoke"

Other planes were spotted in the restricted air space.. Scott Cook: "... A four engine propeller plane, which... resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the pentagon."

John O'keefe: "Then the plane-- it looked like a C-130 cargo plane started turning away from the pentagon."

Annonymous, from the naval annex:"The only large... aircraft to appear was a gray C-130, which appeared to be a navy electronic warfare aircraft." CNN reporting live: "Im standing in lafayette park directly across from the white house residence itself, about 10 minutes ago there was a white jet circling overhead, now generally you dont see planes over the whitehouse.".

Don Perkal Worker at the pentagon: "even before stepping outside i could smell cordite, i knew explosives had been set off somewhere."

April Gallop, a worker in the pentagon who was in the hospital for injuries sustained in the pentagon was visted by men in suits suggesting her to take the compensation money and keep quiet and insisting a plane hit the building.. but she stated "i never seen a plane, or debris, i figured this story was made to brainwash people"

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Blackboxes??:: http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001139.html

judge to translator "i cant let u sue the FBI for lying about your translations becuase its a threat to security"::
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/07/national/main627953.shtml

former FBI translator: "9/11 investigation inadequate"::
http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

U.S aviation recieved 52 al-qaeda threats before 9/11::
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1480093,00.html

Hijack suspects alive and well::
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm

Four years later, we still have ten big questions::
http://villagevoice.com/news/index.php?issue=0549&page=murphy&id=70685

Cheney Authorized Shooting Down Planes::
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50745-2004Jun17.html

NORAD exercise had jet crashing into building::
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/04/19/norad.exercise/index.html

Suspicious profits sit uncollected, Airline investors seem to be lying low::
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/29/MN186128.DTL

Graphs bolster theory of market tampering::
http://www.suntimes.com/output/savage/cst-fin-terry27 copy.html

Brokers help probe: Pre-attack trades look suspicious::
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/21/BU33737.DTL

New scrutiny of airlines options deals::
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/19/BU184559.DTL

Bin Laden’s Network of Terror Was Once an Ally::
http://starbulletin.com/2001/09/23/editorial/special2.html

FBI's 'Phoenix' Memo Unmasked::
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/

 

[LISICKI]

good work troll, i can tell you put alot of energy in this shit.

Hopefully some of these ignorant cattle can open their mind and start to think for themselves as a result of this thread.

 

[Chree]

troll, ur work has paid off, good job man 4 real, i always knew this shit, but now theres an easier way to explain to ppl

 

[[ n a v ]]

bravo, friend. wether they choose to believe it or not, your deligence should be respected.

like i said in the other 9/11 thread, those who strive to bring truth to the actions behind the deaths of those innocent people are in no degree traitors of this country, they are patriots.

 

[Chree]

1 thing i wanted to know.......... George Bush posts here? lol

 

[Chree]

like i said in the other 9/11 thread, those who strive to bring truth to the actions behind the deaths of those innocent people are in no degree traitors of this country, they are patriots.

I couldnt agree more

 

[TROLL]

much luv yall.. if i can at least spark the intrest in at least 1 person to do their own research, its all worth it.. i will be updating this thread with links, and new quotes everyday untill 9/11...

feel free to add anything i may have overlooked

1 thing i wanted to know.......... George Bush posts here? lol

LOL.. have u seen any of dirty shoez's posts? he could have passed as dubya real easy haha

bravo, friend. wether they choose to believe it or not, your deligence should be respected, like i said in the other 9/11 thread, those who strive to bring truth to the actions behind the deaths of those innocent people are in no degree traitors of this country, they are patriots.

I concur also 100%.. i got into a bit debate with a neo con at werk who told me "how dare somebody use the lives of those who died to say it was the governments fault"... my response was "how dare anybody lie down to an explanation of their deaths that has so many holes in it.."

we all are fighting the good fight..

 

[Deadpool]

1)Thermate was found at the craters of each building

No official test was ever done that proves this.


Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening.
At least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.

11)The north tower collapsed in 8.4 seconds... the time it takes a rock thrown from the 94th floor.. 8.4 seconds.. the towers fell at freefall speed. to put in perspective.. the towers fell at avg 10 floors per second's breaking the laws of physics because the floors would have slowed the collapse down. science has proven, pieces of a building cannot crash through steel and concreate as fast as they fall through the air

The elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan.
these collapse times show that:
“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.
Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.”
In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass.
From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely.

12)If the small explosions seen on the towers before the falling debris was really pancaked pressure being released from falling floors, then why are the centered releases only in a few areas and not widespread throught the floor?

It wasn’t pancaked. Investigation shows conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.

In addition . . .

The falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it—much like the action of a piston—forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.
These puffs were observed at many locations as the towers collapsed. In all cases, they had the appearance of jets of gas being pushed from the building through windows or between columns on the mechanical floors. Such jets are expected since the air inside the building is compressed as the tower falls and must flow somewhere as the pressure builds. It is significant that similar “puffs” were observed numerous times on the fire floors in both towers prior to their collapses, perhaps due to falling walls or portions of a floor. Puffs from WTC 1 were even observed when WTC 2 was struck by the aircraft. These observations confirm that even minor overpressures were transmitted through the towers and forced smoke and debris from the building.

16)9/11 is the first time in history three buildings collapsed due to fire, the towers and building 7.

The WTC didn’t collapse solely due to fire. Two planes caused significant structural damage when they hit the buildings, that, combined with fire caused their collapse.

17)Larry silverstein the landlord had only bought the entire building complex months before the attack and had taken out a record insurance policy on the building giving specific refrences to "acts of terror"

The building had been a target of terrorism BEFORE 9-11. What business minded, fuck it even person beyond a 3rd grade education, would not ensure it for acts of terror?

22)Steel melts at 2000 degrees jet fuel burns at a maximum 1200 degrees

The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit).

However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under the fire intensity and duration for the WTC towers.

23)The arcitect for the WTC towers went on record saying "we designed the towers to withstand multiple jumbo jet hits"

Documents from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ) indicated that the impact of a [single, not multiple] Boeing 707 aircraft was analyzed during the design stage of the WTC towers. However, investigators were unable to locate any documentation of the criteria and method used in the impact analysis and, therefore, were unable to verify the assertion that “… such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building.…”

What kind of plane hit the WTC? A Boeing 767 aircraft (which is about 20 percent bigger than a Boeing 707)

The capability to conduct rigorous simulations of the aircraft impact, the growth and spread of the ensuing fires, and the effects of fires on the structure is a recent development. The technical capability available to the PANYNJ and its consultants and contactors to perform such analyses in the 1960s would have been quite limited.


information & studies from:

Shyam Sunder
Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi, B. Tech., (Honors), Civil Engineering, 1977
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, S.M., Civil Engineering, 1979
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Sc.D., Structural Engineering, 1981

William L. Grosshandler
University of Wisconsin, B.S.,Mechanical Engineering, 1968
University of California, Ph.D., Mechanical Engineering, 1976

H. S. Lew
Washington University, B.S., Architectural Engineering, 1960
Lehigh University, M.S., Civil Engineering, 1963
University of Texas, Ph.D., Civil Engineering, 1967

Richard W. Bukowski
Illinois Institute of Technology, B.S., Electrical Engineering, 1970

Fahim Sadek
Cairo University, Egypt, B.S., Civil Engineering, 1987.
Cairo University, Egypt, M.S., Structural Engineering, 1991.
Southern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas, Ph.D., Structural Engineering, 1996.

Frank Gayle
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1985), Ph.D., Metallurgy

Richard G. Gann
Trinity College, B.S., Chemistry, 1965
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Ph.D., Physical Chemistry, 1970

John L. Gross
Cornell University, Civil (Structural) Engineering,
B.S., 1969;
M.E., 1970;
Ph.D., 1980

Therese McAllister
Florida Atlantic University, 1979, BS Ocean Engineering
Oregon State University, 1986, MS Ocean Engineering
Johns Hopkins University, 1998, MS Structural Engineering
Johns Hopkins University, 2000, PhD Structural Engineering

Jason Averill
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
BS Civil Engineering, 1996
MS Fire Protection Engineering, 1998
Johns Hopkins University
Continuing Studies towards Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering

James R. Lawson
Brewton-Parker College, A.A., Business Administration
Georgia Southern University, B.S., Industrial Education
Montgomery College, A.A., Computer Science, Science and Mathematics

 

[TROLL]

info within

No official test was ever done that proves this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=__0AG9bAlI4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_wVLeKwSkXA

Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening.

slowly relative to explosive as in under a minute...
vvvvv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cRtVnenOkYg

Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time,

i over looked one 25)prior to 9/11 evacuation drills were held in the towers and days after bombsniffing dogs were removed from the premesis

remotely ignited,

Building 7

and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.

surely you arent telling me a compound used in handgrenades couldnt be used as an explosive right??

The elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan.
these collapse times show that:
“… the structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass at and above the impact zone. The potential energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that energy through energy of deformation.

I do not understand this logic you copy and pasted... first they are agreeing that the mass of the objects acceleration was in essence the driving force of the top half of the building to begin fall, but then they try to say the tower was unable to support the inital fall zone of the building because it was unable to absorb the falling mass without mentioning that the bulding had support beamz on the outside as well as the inside.. the thing MOST noticible should have been deformation..not free fall..

In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass.
From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely.

So basically they are trying to say "you can't really tell if it was really free fall by video or seismograph because there were still some floor supports still standing". if the bulding was only meant to hold static weight why was it designed to withstand a few collisions??? i refuse to buy the theory of mass schematics that they push off is to equal ((top half of bulding>rest of building)) With NO resistance..

It wasn’t pancaked. Investigation shows conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon.

but wait...didnt they just say??

Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.”[/i]

In addition . . .

The falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it—much like the action of a piston—forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.
These puffs were observed at many locations as the towers collapsed. In all cases, they had the appearance of jets of gas being pushed from the building through windows or between columns on the mechanical floors. Such jets are expected since the air inside the building is compressed as the tower falls and must flow somewhere as the pressure builds. It is significant that similar “puffs” were observed numerous times on the fire floors in both towers prior to their collapses, perhaps due to falling walls or portions of a floor. Puffs from WTC 1 were even observed when WTC 2 was struck by the aircraft. These observations confirm that even minor overpressures were transmitted through the towers and forced smoke and debris from the building.

and yet, this still didnt answer my question of how this piston like reaction "puff" was centered so in on one particular spot and not the surrounding windows.. or even on the opposite side..

The WTC didn’t collapse solely due to fire. Two planes caused significant structural damage when they hit the buildings, that, combined with fire caused their collapse.

Ive already contested that theory.. care to copy and paste something explaining how WTC7 came down??

The building had been a target of terrorism BEFORE 9-11. What business minded, fuck it even person beyond a 3rd grade education, would not ensure it for acts of terror?

sorry, wrong.. building 7 had never been a target of terrorism.. your thinking of the towers...and so its only a coincidence he decides to purchase the property and insure it months before it happens?? wow what an investment that was huh?

The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit).

However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under the fire intensity and duration for the WTC towers.

below where the towers were not hit the steel was not warped.. it had not lost its fireproofing.. and was standing stagnant..

Documents from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ) indicated that the impact of a [single, not multiple] Boeing 707 aircraft was analyzed during the design stage of the WTC towers. However, investigators were unable to locate any documentation of the criteria and method used in the impact analysis and, therefore, were unable to verify the assertion that “… such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building.…”

So because they, the people investigating, could not get paper documents stating that it was able to.. it must of all been a lie... pff

What kind of plane hit the WTC? A Boeing 767 aircraft (which is about 20 percent bigger than a Boeing 707)

yup.. but can 2 planes really take out 2 buildings and one far off in the distance??

The capability to conduct rigorous simulations of the aircraft impact, the growth and spread of the ensuing fires, and the effects of fires on the structure is a recent development. The technical capability available to the PANYNJ and its consultants and contactors to perform such analyses in the 1960s would have been quite limited.

Yeah, i DOUBT that they were gonna "analyze" their hypothesis by actually trying it and smashing a plane into them... i think they used computers and numbers, you know, that massxvelocity that they were talking about earlier before..

you pick and chose arguements that you could copy and paste from other websites.. i didnt expect for you to answer ALL of them because you cant.. by acknowledging it your forced to conviince someone that all of it was 'coincidence'.. i think i read this article in popular mechanics.. very biased magazine..

 

[Deadpool]

It's OK. You source youtube and i source people with PHD's from MIT, U Cal, Cornell, and Johns Hopkins.

Does anyone know the application process for Youtube university? I gotta get in there, it's obviously where all the experts are at. I'm sure it's got the highest possible standards, but I am seriously willing to apply myself. How much is tuition for graduate study?

 

[TROLL]

BTW.. is this really you?

 

[TROLL]

It's OK. You source youtube and i source people with PHD's from MIT, U Cal, Cornell, and Johns Hopkins.

Does anyone know the application process for Youtube university? I gotta get in there, it's obviously where all the experts are at. I'm sure it's got the highest possible standards, but I am seriously willing to apply myself. How much is tuition for graduate study?

actually on the YOUTUBE site was a physics professor from bringham young university showing you theres proof of thermite... too bad u chose to turn this convo downward with a corny ass disinfo tactic

 

[Deadpool]

Too bad you chose to turn this convo downward by attempting to insult or attack me without contributing to the topic or even explaining why you are trying to insult me. But you take it off topic and can't even back your attempted insult up with some kind of proof or logic.
i.e.

BTW.. is this really you?

 

[TROLL]

Too bad you chose to turn this convo downward by attempting to insult or attack me without contributing to the topic or even explaining why you are trying to insult me. But you take it off topic and can't even back your attempted insult up with some kind of proof or logic.
i.e.

what insult?? i was asking if that was really you.. show me where i insulted you...

do you find your own picture insulting??

 

[Deadpool]

How is it relevant to the topic other than as an attempted distraction? If you can't handle an intelligent debate on a serious topic with a person who provides qualified sources, why are you here?

 

[TROLL]

How is it relevant to the topic other than as an attempted distraction? If you can't handle an intelligent debate on a serious topic with a person who provides qualified sources, why are you here?

i just wanted to know if this was the artist of that deadpool comic i was talkin too... but anyway, have any thoughts of your own?? something not copy and pasted perhaps??.. thats what this thread is for...i posted up way more then what u chose to single out

 

[Deadpool]

It obviously isn't what this thread was for. It was a way for you to espouse conspiracy theories and attack the U.S. government on the run up to the anniversary of a horrific national tragedy, poor taste. Thoughts not even your own, just those plucked from far more advanced thinkers than yourself (in at least that they tricked you into believing them). I addressed subjects, given my professional time constraints, for which I have at my disposal sufficient expert evidence to refute. I refute your claims of conspiracy and you resort to distractions from the topic at hand to me personally. This shows your inability to cope with an intelligent debater on a serious topic. A childish and sad display, to say the least.

 

[TROLL]

It obviously isn't what this thread was for. It was a way for you to espouse conspiracy theories and attack the U.S. government on the run up to the anniversary of a horrific national tragedy, poor taste.

If you dont want to contribute to this thread you dont have to, and to be blunt, i dont care...

Thoughts not even your own, just those plucked from far more advanced thinkers than yourself (in at least that they tricked you into believing them).

yeah and i guess advanced thinkerz are baaad noooo, thinking ow!!.. go watch tv or something..

I addressed subjects, given my professional time constraints,

I. E copy and pasteing...

for which I have at my disposal sufficient expert evidence to refute.

popular mechanics..

I refute your claims of conspiracy and you resort to distractions from the topic at hand to me personally.

lol dam did i hurt your feelins or something?? i didnt know a picture of your head was so insulting to you LOL i didnt photoshop it or nothin i just wantd to kno if u really did those comix, i had the deadpool actionn figure with the retractable shank when i was younger, he was murkin all my other ones...

This shows your inability to cope with an intelligent debater on a serious topic. A childish and sad display, to say the least.

exactly waht debate have u provided besides the ones i responded to?? your copy and paste?



done.. deal..
VVVVV
rebuttle to popular mechanics claim of "debunking myths"
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Get back on track!!! It was an interesting conversation...

 

[HERESY]

It's OK. You source youtube and i source people with PHD's from MIT, U Cal, Cornell, and Johns Hopkins.

Does anyone know the application process for Youtube university? I gotta get in there, it's obviously where all the experts are at. I'm sure it's got the highest possible standards, but I am seriously willing to apply myself. How much is tuition for graduate study?

You cite these people as sources, yet you fail to actually tell us what they said, and what each persons opinion/research/experiment pertains to. For all we know, those people could have been made up, and when you make the claim that certain tests where never done, and someone gives you evidence to the contrary, it should be on you to actually attack the EVIDENCE itself, not the SOURCE of the evidence.

Refrain from fallacies and you'll do a better job next time.

:H: