The (NFL) All Bust Team
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Apperantly, you havent seen the numbers Champ has been putting up. People thought they were fabricated, and they werent. Putting Clements and Bailey in the same sentence is not gonna happen.
Regarding ther taclkes, your CB, for one, should not be pilling up 80 tackles in a season...that means the fton 7 aint doin its job PERIOD.
No, he cant. And yes, those numbers are improved. However, what are HIS personal stats and how do they stack up against the teasm stats? Are they in the vicinity of the median? Or do they not contrast correctly and he really is doing his job and no one else in the secondary is? You also forget that adding Willis to the roster has also helped imrpve the pass defense.
And thats the problem. All of a sudden, CB.s and SS/FS are gettin paid mundo bucks like average pitchers are in the MLB these days...shie is out of control. Ken Hamlin anyone?:ermm:
When he wasnt injured? Absolutely he was worth that and it showed. He has 11 sacks this year and is one of the most versatile players in the league on defense. Gettin out of SF was a blessing for him. He is not the first player to ever leave a team and do better else where. Ruskell is KNOWN for making wise decisions and seeing "diamonds in the rough" See: Tatupu.
Regarding ther taclkes, your CB, for one, should not be pilling up 80 tackles in a season...that means the fton 7 aint doin its job PERIOD.
No, he cant. And yes, those numbers are improved. However, what are HIS personal stats and how do they stack up against the teasm stats? Are they in the vicinity of the median? Or do they not contrast correctly and he really is doing his job and no one else in the secondary is? You also forget that adding Willis to the roster has also helped imrpve the pass defense.
And thats the problem. All of a sudden, CB.s and SS/FS are gettin paid mundo bucks like average pitchers are in the MLB these days...shie is out of control. Ken Hamlin anyone?:ermm:
When he wasnt injured? Absolutely he was worth that and it showed. He has 11 sacks this year and is one of the most versatile players in the league on defense. Gettin out of SF was a blessing for him. He is not the first player to ever leave a team and do better else where. Ruskell is KNOWN for making wise decisions and seeing "diamonds in the rough" See: Tatupu.
seriously that list pisses me off lol
Clements dont belong on there
DJack does
TBC Does
But Clements doesnt
79 Tackles, 14 Passes Defended, 1 Sack, 3 Ints, 3 FF (which ranks 3rd for all DBs)
Thats pretty good numbers, i know you said he should have 7 ints to earn his keep, well he has 6 TOs created with 3 games left
Clements dont belong on there
DJack does
TBC Does
But Clements doesnt
79 Tackles, 14 Passes Defended, 1 Sack, 3 Ints, 3 FF (which ranks 3rd for all DBs)
Thats pretty good numbers, i know you said he should have 7 ints to earn his keep, well he has 6 TOs created with 3 games left
He hass 11 PD...not 14.
THose are solid numbers...just not 80 million dollar numbers. That is the ONLY reason he is on that list.
EDIT: Matter of fact, his OFFICIAL page list him as only having 10 PD's.
http://www.nateclements.com/ssp/stats/
THose are solid numbers...just not 80 million dollar numbers. That is the ONLY reason he is on that list.
EDIT: Matter of fact, his OFFICIAL page list him as only having 10 PD's.
http://www.nateclements.com/ssp/stats/
By the way, you know why hs is on that list?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786253
"49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever"
And you happy with sub-Bailey numbers? Cmon now...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786253
"49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever"
And you happy with sub-Bailey numbers? Cmon now...
I wasnt comparing them. I was comparing the fact that they are both human.
Our front 7 might be the worst in the league. He shouldnt be but he is, he's right above his career avg in tackles. He's not like he's suddenly getting all those tackles. He's one below in his career avg for int's. He's above his avg in FF too. He's perfromed the same way that he has his whole career.
Like I said above, he is right in line with his career stats. His stats are in the median but he has never had more 3 ints in his career expect for 2 years. I would say that he is doing his job and the rest of the secondary sucks.
But players are going to be paid more and more as the teams as making more and more off of the players. It all depends on what the teams feel they are worth.
But you have to factor in that he was injured. He only has 9 sacks this year with 4 of them coming against that great niners offense. He really hasnt done that much better and in seattle he isnt the main linebacker like he was in SF.
A blessing is going from a horrible defense to a great defense.
Our front 7 might be the worst in the league. He shouldnt be but he is, he's right above his career avg in tackles. He's not like he's suddenly getting all those tackles. He's one below in his career avg for int's. He's above his avg in FF too. He's perfromed the same way that he has his whole career.
Like I said above, he is right in line with his career stats. His stats are in the median but he has never had more 3 ints in his career expect for 2 years. I would say that he is doing his job and the rest of the secondary sucks.
But players are going to be paid more and more as the teams as making more and more off of the players. It all depends on what the teams feel they are worth.
But you have to factor in that he was injured. He only has 9 sacks this year with 4 of them coming against that great niners offense. He really hasnt done that much better and in seattle he isnt the main linebacker like he was in SF.
A blessing is going from a horrible defense to a great defense.
Leads All DBs In SOLO Tackles
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...lified=true&Submit=Find&tabSeq=1&d-447263-p=1
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...lified=true&Submit=Find&tabSeq=1&d-447263-p=1
THats a very blaneted statement, my friend. EVERYONE is human...but we are talking NFL players here, not people like you and i.
And he has also played his hole career on shitty teams. The Bills had a similar defense that the 9ers have now: poor.
THat may be the case. but how does that stack up to being the HIGHEST paid CB in the league, and putting the same numbers as players like Marcus Trufant?
THats a given, but this is a CB we are talking about here. Like i said, a CB making that kinda money should be putting up crazy ass numbers (thus my reference to 7 INTS, as just a measuring stick). Just like the Royals expected Gil Meche to be their ace, and he had yet ANOTHER "Gil season"...as they paid over 10 mil a year for him.
Key words: not the main LB. He is in a system of LB's that include a two time Pro-bowler that is one of the leagues BEST defense play callers in Tatupu. Peterson also plays OLB, and is expeced to pass rush, defend the line and drop back in pass coverage. MLB are one of the most important pieces of a defense...see:Willis.
SF actually had a descent defense all AROUND last year.
A blessing is in the eye of the beholder.
Bottom line: Clements made that list becuase of his outrageous salary, nothing more nothing less.
And he has also played his hole career on shitty teams. The Bills had a similar defense that the 9ers have now: poor.
THat may be the case. but how does that stack up to being the HIGHEST paid CB in the league, and putting the same numbers as players like Marcus Trufant?
THats a given, but this is a CB we are talking about here. Like i said, a CB making that kinda money should be putting up crazy ass numbers (thus my reference to 7 INTS, as just a measuring stick). Just like the Royals expected Gil Meche to be their ace, and he had yet ANOTHER "Gil season"...as they paid over 10 mil a year for him.
Key words: not the main LB. He is in a system of LB's that include a two time Pro-bowler that is one of the leagues BEST defense play callers in Tatupu. Peterson also plays OLB, and is expeced to pass rush, defend the line and drop back in pass coverage. MLB are one of the most important pieces of a defense...see:Willis.
SF actually had a descent defense all AROUND last year.
A blessing is in the eye of the beholder.
Bottom line: Clements made that list becuase of his outrageous salary, nothing more nothing less.
No, but the EXPECTATIONS should be. If i pay $100 for a hamburger, shouldnt that be the best fuckin hamburger i have ever tasted in my life, and leaves me with a feelig of satisfaction for a very long time? Same thign goes with paying a CB 80 million dollars and making him the HIGHEST CB in the history of NFL football.
Supposed to or EXPECTED to? In all honesty, you would have to ask the GM for making such a move, as i dont know what he EXPECTED. THey probably could have gotten him for cheaper.
I dont know everyones salary, however you would have to measure in the indivudal position. As far as CB;s go, Clements is the HIGHEST PAID CB EVER, and their are others OUT performing him. Do you understand what im trying to get across here?
Supposed to or EXPECTED to? In all honesty, you would have to ask the GM for making such a move, as i dont know what he EXPECTED. THey probably could have gotten him for cheaper.
I dont know everyones salary, however you would have to measure in the indivudal position. As far as CB;s go, Clements is the HIGHEST PAID CB EVER, and their are others OUT performing him. Do you understand what im trying to get across here?