The Female Positions

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Today a life with one partner would not make much of difference to my social security as a woman. More so “marriage and motherhood” will not be my only staple to my life and my existence. Anyone can get married so it does not pose superiority over individuals who are not. The natural physical making of a female to reproduce does not pose superiority over another female who have not had a child, because any female can be “Mothers.”

But NO LONGER can a society deny a woman’s mental and physical strengths is as equally attainable as a man’s; what a man has done a woman as also done and a weak man is not as strong as a strong woman and vise versa. The women’s great motivational history in human development has been recognized through women in national & cultural system holding office and social order, world activist (fighters for human dignity) in its necessity, Doctors of all medical fields, Architects & Engineers in building visual foundations of cultures and society, and educators and guides to new generations of experts. It is in our great social transformation that we must eliminate the “ideal” women from its past perception of limited intelligence, generic human form, and mental weakness for the purpose of generalizing the female position to the social order. It is by recognition to terminating the prejudices and dehumanization of females will it create a new culture of unrestricted progress for humans in defining their fate to exist.

The "news" shows, the glitz & glamour of one industry, the television programs and the social understanding of your “loyalties” does not replicate accurately the complete view of the whole world through these communication mediums…It will always be by individual interpretation through involvement and the rigorous appetite to investigate outside the “norm” of what has been written to what has been experienced world wide when finally generalization will cease.
 
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I follow you until that part about equal physical strength.not all weak men with have the physical strength of a physically strong woman but I think this issue only weakens your overall argument. Men are trained more since childhood to rely on physical strength. thats why women dont make it to the NFL. thats why the only woman in college football was a kicker who barely got to see the field. when it comes to intellegence, and or balance or flexibility...I cant really argue. but on matters of strength, lets not go there.oh yes, I also think even though they may cry more than men, women have a higher tolerance for physical pain.
 
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the dreamer said:
I follow you until that part about equal physical strength.not all weak men with have the physical strength of a physically strong woman but I think this issue only weakens your overall argument. Men are trained more since childhood to rely on physical strength. thats why women dont make it to the NFL. thats why the only woman in college football was a kicker who barely got to see the field. when it comes to intellegence, and or balance or flexibility...I cant really argue. but on matters of strength, lets not go there.oh yes, I also think even though they may cry more than men, women have a higher tolerance for physical pain.


theres women power lifters who are pound for pound stronger than most men , and im not talkin nicole bass lookin women either.............
 
Sep 28, 2004
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It is possible to feel as an equal and be a woman, and not be a feminist. I am not a feminist, but I am in no way tied to old thinkings on women. Then again, I'm more of the sort of deal with everyone on an individual basis. Race, gender, religion and orientation are there, but there's no equality struggle. I've been hated for my gender, because a woman hurt someone badly. I had to suffer for that. That was his problem, not mine. Racists, homophobes and misogynists usually make an ideal image of the thing they hate, and won't stray from their thought processes.
 
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Im just a little confused where the direction of this post is supposed to head? Is it a statement, an opinion, a topic?

btw, I think the last paragraph makes the most since...all the talk about women doctors an architects etc. is a big turn off for me b/c i dont usually think of these types of positions as strictly male nor do most people in modern day America...
 
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wino-good point (I didn't know that), but you said "power lifter" and "pound for pound". those two right there get me.I hope if a woman is a power lifter, she's stronger pound for pound than most men. but what is pound for pound? in boxing , you could be a featherweight & the greatest pound for pound fighter ever, but you still cant compare to a heavyweight.
 
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I understand what Mercedez is saying but I feel it is somewhat preaching to the choir.

Traditionalism as a whole is definitely eroding in America.

I believe men are simply stronger than women, for the most part, physically, however this does not translate into any real life advantage.
 
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the dreamer said:
wino-good point (I didn't know that), but you said "power lifter" and "pound for pound". those two right there get me.I hope if a woman is a power lifter, she's stronger pound for pound than most men. but what is pound for pound? in boxing , you could be a featherweight & the greatest pound for pound fighter ever, but you still cant compare to a heavyweight.
well theres women stronger than you and me , really stronger and without using any steroids..........
 
Jun 14, 2005
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once a gain, homie you aint gettin me.she might be stronger than me. (if she's a power lifter).but thats what she does. the most lifting I did was blunt to mouth, and I quit months ago.compare that strength of that woman to the strength of a male powerlifter.I hope I dont have to google this shit.highschool dudes is puttin up what pro ladies is puttin up.see where Im goin.
 
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YOuNg WiNo said:
well theres women stronger than you and me , really stronger and without using any steroids..........
but the AVERAGE female is still gonna be smaller, more petite, and not as strong as the AVERAGE male. I haven't done any studies on this, but I'm pretty sure this is one stereotype that would prove true yadamean?

I, also, don't understand the point of this thread, it was an interesting title choice tho.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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I'm not going to argue that women are totally equal with men in this country in this day and age, but they are getting close, progress is being made. Took a lot to get to that point.

But i'm wondering if now days there isn't a strong backlash developing to feminist advancement. I haven't been alive for the decades and decades of the more current feminist movements so i don't really have a frame of reference on it, but it seems like a lot of young women these days are trying to revert back. And we all know there are plenty of men that are quite content with women staying at home being cooks and cleaners and pumping out babies. Just wondering since there are a few women up in this thread if you think other women are part of the problem (maybe equally with men?) in a slowing of feminist advancement or even backtracking?
 

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Im just a little confused where the direction of this post is supposed to head? Is it a statement, an opinion, a topic?
They've actually done psychology experiments to prove that papers without a thesis sentence are very hard to read because the initial guidelines for an argument are not given.

But anyways, I agree with all that except the strenght part. If you can beat my ass, I'll concede.
 
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ColdBlooded said:
But i'm wondering if now days there isn't a strong backlash developing to feminist advancement. I haven't been alive for the decades and decades of the more current feminist movements so i don't really have a frame of reference on it, but it seems like a lot of young women these days are trying to revert back. And we all know there are plenty of men that are quite content with women staying at home being cooks and cleaners and pumping out babies. Just wondering since there are a few women up in this thread if you think other women are part of the problem (maybe equally with men?) in a slowing of feminist advancement or even backtracking?
Honestly, I am not feminist but I believe it all comes down to CHOICE. Some hardcore feminists forget this and they put down stay at home moms, and women who are more traditional. They tell them how they should go out and work, and not be the traditional woman role.

But there are always options and people choose their role in life. If I choose to sit at home and become THE UTERUS and push out baby after baby while watching soaps on TV, that is my choice. I knew I had other options. If I go out and I become a famous artist that gets my stuff published in books while I maintain a family life at home with a working husband, that is my choice. If I never get married, and I am a hard working, independent woman, I made that choice.

Honestly, the only thing that impedes progress is the lack of choice. In the 40's and 50's, women didn't have a choice. In the 60's, they did but it was looked down upon. Some did it anyway.

There are a lot of men who would prefer their women very traditional and old fashioned, and it is their choice to choose their mates that way. It is only when I am told what I SHOULD do that I am offended in either direction. If I am told that I belong in the kitchen, I laugh. If I am told that I should be more independent and not even look for a boyfriend or husband, I laugh.