The Apocalyptic Agenda Of The Neo-Conservatives

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2-0-Sixx said:
Exactly. They drifted away from the true Marxist beliefs and destroyed themselfs. That does not prove it does not work, only proves that once they abandoned their original beliefs and drifted towards a more capitalist society did they fail.
I think you should give Russia a call and tell them your outstanding discovery.... That will fix everything, I am sure of it!
 
Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


you mean their friends and family that have already escaped right?????
if you wanna call them that..they send out wrong shit to
cuba...extremists!...they are also the ones who been terrorizing.
cuba and the pieces of shit of won't let go of the embargo.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:



what good things have hey done??????

cuba provides aid especially medical aid to other poor countries.
for being a country with such a low GDP, its supply medical
and education for all its people. the Infant mortality rate and Literacy rate is that the same of US...and in sports they kick ass
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


because they are pitting they professionals against are amateurs or college kids thats why.
lol...in any sport..not just baseball...tell me another country whos
doing the same has cuba? with the same GDP or slighy higher
 
Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


and boxing and everything else

damn i swear one day you will probly marry a woman named "cuba"
just proving they're not a shit hole as everybody thinks it is.

now if u comparing it to other countires in the carrabiean, or
in latin america or.....
 
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ColdBlooded said:




A Triumphant Call To Arms
The Apocalyptic Agenda Of The Neo-Conservatives


Neo-conservative writers have become increasingly vocal about an apocalyptic conflict involving the United States and Muslim world.

Start with Norman Podhoretz, the former longtime editor of Commentary and now a Hudson Institute fellow. Podhoretz calls for en masse regime change in the Middle East, beginning with Iraq and Iran from the original "axis of evil" list, and extending it to Egypt, Lebanon, Libya, the Palestinian National Authority, Saudi Arabia and Syria. He wants the United States to unilaterally overthrow these regimes and replace them with democracies cast in the Jeffersonian mold.

What neo-cons seek is not just a political transformation of the Muslim Middle East. Their end game, as Podhoretz says in Commentary, is to bring about "the long-overdue internal reform and modernization of Islam."

Rather than being dismissed as fringe thinking, these pronouncements frame the hard-right boundary for debates in conservative political circles.

In the call for wider U.S. military intervention in the Middle East, the ideologues recognize that such action will likely provoke terrorist attacks on Americans, both at home and abroad. But, in their view, the terrorists will unwittingly provide the pretext for even stronger U.S. military intervention. Neo-cons believe the United States will emerge triumphant in the end, provided it shows the will to fight the war against militant Islam to a successful conclusion, and, as Podhoretz says, "the stomach to impose a new political culture on the defeated parties."

Meanwhile, consider these policy prescriptions for today's Middle East:

Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, notes on the magazine’s Web site that if terrorists from Muslim countries detonate a "dirty bomb" in the United States, the United States should consider launching a nuclear attack on Islam’s holiest city, Mecca, in Saudi Arabia.

Elliot Cohen is the most influential neo-con in academe. From his perch as a professor of national security studies at John Hopkins University, Cohen refers to the war against terrorism by a chilling name: World War IV (citing the Cold War as WWIII). He claims America is on the good side in this war, just like it has been in all prior world wars; and the enemy is militant Islam, not some abstract concept of "terrorism."

In Cohen's view, Afghanistan was merely the first campaign in WWIV, and several more are likely to follow. Cohen argues that the United States should throw its weight behind pro-Western and anticlerical forces in the Muslim world, beginning with the overthrow of the theocratic state in Iran.

Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum opines that U.S. academics are trying to sugar coat the true meaning of jihad, and thereby hide its violent and political character. In the November issue of Commentary, he cites numerous Islamic scholars -- most of them non-Muslim -- who state that jihad is confined to militarily defensive engagements, and its primary meaning is the attainment of moral self-improvement.

Pipes contends that Osama bin Laden and his followers understand the meaning of jihad better than the academics. He alleges that 14 centuries of Islamic history confirm the bin Laden view, since jihad has been used as an offensive weapon for expanding Muslim political power. When groups such as the Council of American-Islamic Relations contend that jihad is not a holy war, Pipes argues that they are engaged in spreading misinformation.

In mid-November, the neo-cons quietly launched a bipartisan Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. One prominent members is George Schulz, now a fellow at the Hoover Institution. In a recent interview, Schulz said he would be surprised if the United States does not initiate military action against Iraq by the end of January. His words seem to confirm the hypothesis that the Bush administration will merely use U.N. Resolution 1441 as a cover to wage war against Iraq.

The neo-cons are determined to bring their apocalyptic vision to reality -- even if their critics dismiss their call to arms and American triumphalism.

Critiquing their worldview, columnist Philip Stephens writes in the Financial Times that, "in the long term, even a nation as uniquely powerful as the United States cannot remake the political systems at the heart of the Islamic world: not in 30 years and probably not in 100."

The Muslim world will view a string of U.S. military attacks on Muslim countries as the aggression of an oil-thirsty superpower on the Muslim world, not a march to liberate people from tyranny.


Ahmad Faruqui is an economist and a fellow at the American Institute of International Studies in California. He is author of Rethinking the National Security of Pakistan, to be published later this year by Ashgate Publishing in the UK.
So how the Neo-Cons doin' these days anyway?
 
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JoMoDo said:
So how the Neo-Cons doin' these days anyway?

They could be worse off in the war of civilizations. But should be better off. They should have gone after Iran first, not Iraq. The Bathists of Iraq and Syria would have fallen in line because though autocratic and left leaning they were also west leaning. They would have been more ripe for reform/over throw.
 
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Deadpool said:
They could be worse off in the war of civilizations. But should be better off. They should have gone after Iran first, not Iraq. The Bathists of Iraq and Syria would have fallen in line because though autocratic and left leaning they were also west leaning. They would have been more ripe for reform/over throw.
I forgot....what was the reason we invaded Iraq again?
 
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Edward Thizzerhands said:
I forgot....what was the reason we invaded Iraq again?
It would depend on who's reasoning you are questioning.

Is it possible for you to view a situation objectively or is everything subject to your personal political biases?