The Apocalyptic Agenda Of The Neo-Conservatives

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A Triumphant Call To Arms
The Apocalyptic Agenda Of The Neo-Conservatives


Neo-conservative writers have become increasingly vocal about an apocalyptic conflict involving the United States and Muslim world.

Start with Norman Podhoretz, the former longtime editor of Commentary and now a Hudson Institute fellow. Podhoretz calls for en masse regime change in the Middle East, beginning with Iraq and Iran from the original "axis of evil" list, and extending it to Egypt, Lebanon, Libya, the Palestinian National Authority, Saudi Arabia and Syria. He wants the United States to unilaterally overthrow these regimes and replace them with democracies cast in the Jeffersonian mold.

What neo-cons seek is not just a political transformation of the Muslim Middle East. Their end game, as Podhoretz says in Commentary, is to bring about "the long-overdue internal reform and modernization of Islam."

Rather than being dismissed as fringe thinking, these pronouncements frame the hard-right boundary for debates in conservative political circles.

In the call for wider U.S. military intervention in the Middle East, the ideologues recognize that such action will likely provoke terrorist attacks on Americans, both at home and abroad. But, in their view, the terrorists will unwittingly provide the pretext for even stronger U.S. military intervention. Neo-cons believe the United States will emerge triumphant in the end, provided it shows the will to fight the war against militant Islam to a successful conclusion, and, as Podhoretz says, "the stomach to impose a new political culture on the defeated parties."

Meanwhile, consider these policy prescriptions for today's Middle East:

Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, notes on the magazine’s Web site that if terrorists from Muslim countries detonate a "dirty bomb" in the United States, the United States should consider launching a nuclear attack on Islam’s holiest city, Mecca, in Saudi Arabia.

Elliot Cohen is the most influential neo-con in academe. From his perch as a professor of national security studies at John Hopkins University, Cohen refers to the war against terrorism by a chilling name: World War IV (citing the Cold War as WWIII). He claims America is on the good side in this war, just like it has been in all prior world wars; and the enemy is militant Islam, not some abstract concept of "terrorism."

In Cohen's view, Afghanistan was merely the first campaign in WWIV, and several more are likely to follow. Cohen argues that the United States should throw its weight behind pro-Western and anticlerical forces in the Muslim world, beginning with the overthrow of the theocratic state in Iran.

Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum opines that U.S. academics are trying to sugar coat the true meaning of jihad, and thereby hide its violent and political character. In the November issue of Commentary, he cites numerous Islamic scholars -- most of them non-Muslim -- who state that jihad is confined to militarily defensive engagements, and its primary meaning is the attainment of moral self-improvement.

Pipes contends that Osama bin Laden and his followers understand the meaning of jihad better than the academics. He alleges that 14 centuries of Islamic history confirm the bin Laden view, since jihad has been used as an offensive weapon for expanding Muslim political power. When groups such as the Council of American-Islamic Relations contend that jihad is not a holy war, Pipes argues that they are engaged in spreading misinformation.

In mid-November, the neo-cons quietly launched a bipartisan Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. One prominent members is George Schulz, now a fellow at the Hoover Institution. In a recent interview, Schulz said he would be surprised if the United States does not initiate military action against Iraq by the end of January. His words seem to confirm the hypothesis that the Bush administration will merely use U.N. Resolution 1441 as a cover to wage war against Iraq.

The neo-cons are determined to bring their apocalyptic vision to reality -- even if their critics dismiss their call to arms and American triumphalism.

Critiquing their worldview, columnist Philip Stephens writes in the Financial Times that, "in the long term, even a nation as uniquely powerful as the United States cannot remake the political systems at the heart of the Islamic world: not in 30 years and probably not in 100."

The Muslim world will view a string of U.S. military attacks on Muslim countries as the aggression of an oil-thirsty superpower on the Muslim world, not a march to liberate people from tyranny.


Ahmad Faruqui is an economist and a fellow at the American Institute of International Studies in California. He is author of Rethinking the National Security of Pakistan, to be published later this year by Ashgate Publishing in the UK.
 
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lol what is this am hearing? these are u'r ppl...lol:classic: j/k

i hate these ppl
those arent my people those are far rightwingers beyond the color spectrum.

i compare them to wackos on the left like P.E.T.A., Animal Liberation Front, A.N.S.W.E.R., Nancy Pellosi, Al Gores (environment views only), and so on. i mean both sides has wackos and i will be the first to admit.

now will you lefties admit that you guys have alote of wackos also???
 
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those arent my people those are far rightwingers beyond the color spectrum.

i compare them to wackos on the left like P.E.T.A., Animal Liberation Front, A.N.S.W.E.R., Nancy Pellosi, Al Gores (environment views only), and so on. i mean both sides has wackos and i will be the first to admit.

now will you lefties admit that you guys have alote of wackos also???
lol all those "lefties" i don't give 2 shits about. (except ANSWER)
they support the current system.

currently i think of my self as being far to the left.
 
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yes that is very true. i mean when yo are so far to the left that you embrace communistic views you are way out there.
lol, my views change contantly, just cause i'm to the far left
doesn't mean i "embrace communistic views" other system theories exist....u really think that the way things are going now
its going to help humanality? sometimes it gets too fuck ridicious
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
yes that is very true. i mean when yo are so far to the left that you embrace communistic views you are way out there.
All you conservatives demonize communistic views WAY too much. Look at Cuba...that aint a bad country at all, yet our Government has beef with em just for the fact theyre communist.

I will agree that the left has some fuckin wackos though. Tree huggers (where the fuck do they think the paper for all those petitions they make comes from?), P.E.T.A., whoever that guy was that said he was gonna bring mad cow disease to America...they all need to go.
 
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Because the U.S. prevents them from traveling here safely and legally.
no its because castro wont let any1 leave, especially if they are of importance.

why are they automatically eligible for residency here in America so long as they can touch land , that makes them refugees which are almost always given residency.

and do you guys forget that castro was just as bad as Sadam hussein is now
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
You have to ask yourself first, why is Cuba the way it is now?

because of 2 stubborn countries that wont change. USA and Cuba both. we wont give in to them because he castro is still the leader and is a communist, also because the Cuban American population doesnt want us to give in to Castro, and Castro wont change because if he does he would end up losing power and he soesnt want that.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Please explain why.
If Castro is as bad as Sadam, then what about all the American presidents that tried to assassinate Castro? What about the CIA?
first off i said was. as in castro was as bad as sadam is now.

2-0-Sixx said:
then what about all the American presidents that tried to assassinate Castro?
sometimes the only way to stop ruthless killers (Sadam and Castro from years back) is by killing them. sometimes killing them will saves lives.
 
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sometimes the only way to stop ruthless killers (Sadam and Castro from years back) is by killing them. sometimes killing them will saves lives.
Oh come on Mcleanhatch, dont give me that bull. Castro is not a ruthless killer. If your going to say Castro is a ruthless killer, well the same can be said for a number of american leaders. Should I make a list for you of people who were assassinated by the U.S?