Tax the Super Rich now before the 99% rise up and trigger a new American Revolution

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May 15, 2002
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Cuz you wouldn't be here if you were.



You won't be ever either. But you're deluded.



Maybe, I doubt it, but maybe. You might be ballin outta control on 99% of the siccness and frontin on the rest, but you're not rich. You won't be either. But you're deluded.
Spoken like a true hater. Wishing the worst on another man. You keep telling yourself that I'll never be rich. You're not talking about ME never being rich, you're talking about yourself.
 
May 15, 2002
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There are no loopholes. The IRS isn't stupid, contrary to everyone's beliefs. They are black and white guidelines that the company or individual filing must follow. The wealthy don't find ways to sneak through. They may utilize certain benefits or claims, or put their money in the right places, but those aren't loopholes that get patched up later. They are standard guidelines that most people don't follow, or really don't pay someone who can tell them which direction to go.

The reason most people don't follow them is because they don't have someone who is qualified doing their taxes. Then again, they don't need one because they aren't in that tax bracket. Can't justify the expense. Straight W2, file before April 15th, etc. There is not much to it.
Learn what a loophole means.
Basically, a little known LEGAL technique that one can use to their benefit. Anyways, I'm done trying to teach your hard-headed asses stuff.

....stay broke.
 
May 6, 2002
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Learn what a loophole means.
Basically, a little known LEGAL technique that one can use to their benefit. Anyways, I'm done trying to teach your hard-headed asses stuff.

....stay broke.
A loophole is an ambiguity that gets exposed and taken advantage of, that later gets sealed up. You swear people find all these flaws and gray areas in the guidelines and the IRS is left scratching their heads. They are educated people doing things legally. Anything else would be hiding money, which is simply tax evasion (penalty + criminal charges). They aren't slipping through cracks left and right. I get what you are trying to say. I am just stating that to say that people are finding loopholes in the tax system is a little too harsh.

Also, why do you keep talking about finances?
Having money has no direct correlation to having tax knowledge.
"Oh he's broke so he doesn't know how the IRS does things".

For all you know I work for the IRS.
 
Jun 9, 2007
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lmao...this is how every nebulizah argument ends

fuck u guys im going home!!!
Really? Example?

Don't be mad at me because I, along with the rest of the Siccness (aside from two people), realize how moronic "Gordon Gekko"'s arguments are. Hence, not worth the time & effort.

At least people like Rumpelstiltskin can usually bring forth a counterpoint that's worthy of debate. People like you & Gekko bring nothing to the table.
 
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GE also may pay income taxes to those states that it has a significant presence. While each state defines nexus, which triggers income tax return filing requirements, differently, considering GE's size, it is likely that they file and pay taxes in many states in this country. They also likely pay franchise tax fees as well as sales tax to various states and cities.
They didn't pay a single dime to the federal government...
and please, someone feel free to try to make a valid argument as to why this is a legitimate and necessary move for GE to make:

from ThinkProgress.org

This year, 14 unions representing more than 15,000 workers will negotiate a new master contract with General Electric. Among the major concessions GE has signaled that it will ask of union workers is the elimination of a defined contribution benefit pension for new employees, a move the company has already implemented for its non-union salaried employees. Likewise, GE is signaling to the union that it will ask for the elimination of current health insurance plans in favor of lower quality health saving accounts, a move the company has already implemented for non-union salaried employees as well.

In addition, General Electric may ask some workers for a wage freeze. Since the recession began in 2007, GE threatened to close plants in Schenectady, NY and Louisville, KY unless workers took wage concessions and adopted two-tier wage structure. In an interview with ThinkProgress, Mark Haller, a machinist at General Electric locomotive factory in Erie, PA, said:

The company I work for paid no federal taxes last year, but we all get these mass emails from GE asking us to call our Congressman to fund the useless, alternative GE engine for the F-35. As taxpayers, we are subsidizing the profits of this company to a huge extent and now after making the company even more profitable, they are asking us to make concessions on pensions, benefits, and perhaps even wages. You wonder why there is a jobs crisis in this country with a guy like G.E. CEO Jeff Immelt heading the President’s Jobs Commission.

In 2003, union workers at 16 different General Electric factories engaged in a strike when G.E. proposed to cut their health care. Workers are mobilizing again this year. They have planned a rally that is expected to attract 10,000 workers from all over the country at the General Electric Locomotive Factory in Erie, PA on June 4th.
 
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1) Humans help each other :ermm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism

2) In your opinion; why should people help each other simply because we are classified in the same biological category?
humans help each other so whats wrong with those who appeal for the exetremely rich and priviliged to share and help out in proportion to their rank in society? (i know about altruism by the way, my statement was hyperbole)

Because I believe that's the right thing to do.
 
Nov 24, 2003
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humans help each other so whats wrong with those who appeal for the exetremely rich and priviliged to share and help out in proportion to their rank in society? (i know about altruism by the way, my statement was hyperbole)

Nothing is wrong with asking for for help.

Nothing is wrong with helping.

Something is wrong with "you" mandating how and how much "I" should help.
 
Jun 9, 2007
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Something is wrong with "you" mandating how and how much "I" should help.
"We're asking shared sacrifice from a lot of people," Michigan Republican Gov. Rick Snyder

Everybody on both sides of the isle is pitching this "shared sacrifice" shit, but in the end it's only shared between "the other 98%."

Doris doesn't need those meals on wheels everyday... CUT IT!!!!

Dennis doesn't need that mental health care... CUT IT!!!!!

Little Amy doesn't need to eat lunch everyday... CUT IT!!!!!!!!

As long as you don't touch our war spending or our welfare for billionaires... those are OFF THE TABLE!!!!!!!!!

and the majority of both major parties are guilty of it.
 

Mac Jesus

Girls send me your nudes
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Nothing is wrong with asking for for help.

Nothing is wrong with helping.

Something is wrong with "you" mandating how and how much "I" should help.
So should everyone just pay whatever they feel like? Wouldn't any tax amount be mandating how much you should pay.
 
Nov 24, 2003
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So should everyone just pay whatever they feel like? Wouldn't any tax amount be mandating how much you should pay.

Yes. Which is why, in general, I don't believe in taxes.

If 50 people came to my house and told me I needed to give them 10,000 a year it would be extortion and I would most likely shoot them.

However, if another group of people tell me I need to pay 10,000 a year it's called taxes and if I don't pay I go to jail.



If you don't support the war in Iraq/Afghanistan, imperial overtures in Libya, puppet governments in Saudi Arabia - why at the risk of going to jail, are you forced to pay for it?

Not to mention studies have also shown that people are more likely to help others when they are allowed to do so on their own volition rather than by mandate.
 

Mac Jesus

Girls send me your nudes
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If you do not believe in taxes what do you think of things like public schools, roads, garbage service, etc?

Should people be forced to pay for these services on an individual basis, depending on what they use? Would that even be feasible for the majority of people?
 

HIM

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If you do not believe in taxes what do you think of things like public schools, roads, garbage service, etc?

Should people be forced to pay for these services on an individual basis, depending on what they use? Would that even be feasible for the majority of people?
Talk about a headache in the making...
 
Nov 24, 2003
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If you do not believe in taxes what do you think of things like public schools, roads, garbage service, etc?

Should people be forced to pay for these services on an individual basis, depending on what they use? Would that even be feasible for the majority of people?


Yes IMO people should be able to pay for services they want - and not pay for those that they don't. If I choose not to pay the tab on police services, than they can let my call go to voice-mail when I call.

I am sure a lot of people would prefer not to contribute to our 600 billion annual military budget and would prefer to have their contribution routed to something they needed or supported.

Why should people not have a say in where their money should go?