STUPID MEXICAN MURDERED THE INNOCENT CHILD....TRAYVON

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I understand that people want justice for murder.. but if this Zimmerman guy was black too there would not be this level of outrage by the community... Children die all the time from gang related violence and not a fuck is ever given by anyone outside the a dead kids family.

I will admit I havn't followed this story much at all however.. Why was this Zimmerman guy even tripping? Was the kid on his property?
i think the major difference is this kid was a good kid, not a kid who;s gangbangin or drug dealing and whatnot. people that are living the fastlane are expected to die or go to jail FAST. it's their decision to live that lifestyle and there's rarely a good outcome. this kid however was a good kid, and honorrole student and literally did nothing wrong to get gunned down like he did. i do however dont think it has anything to do with race but the fact the dude was just an idiot.he took his job WAY too seriously and probably prayed for a day like this to come that he took it out on anyone who looked "suspicious".

I mean yeah maybe it's a little forced in the news and celebrities are all riding that bandwagon train aswell but thats not really a bad thing, i think if the guy was charged there wouldnt have been an outrage like their had been. Also i understand what that journalist guy was trying to say about the hoodie. judging from that dude mustache he's never ever worn a hoodie and was trying to state people will profile you as a thug if you have one. same way someone who doesnt wear suits would profile a man that wears one. he had good intentions behind what he said but just didnt realize what he was saying lol. oh well that guy sucks anyways.
 
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Bingo!

It's cool that people are rallying for the cause. I've seen people of all races speak up. But here's my thing --- How come the entire black community isn't as outraged by the black-on-black crime, which occurs at an alarming rate, as they are about this one case? Blacks killing blacks, sometimes innocent children, happens on damn near a daily basis, but the black community don't rally and demand justice for that. Is it only when it's a black vs. non-black incident that the black community will stand up and demand justice?

this is a whole lot of nothin but, a read. one man thinkin he speaks for a whole race.

http://allhiphop.com/2012/03/26/of-trayvon-martin-why-dont-yall-care-about-black-on-black-murder/


This is for those folks who ask the question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?”

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black men die from gang violence, driveby shootings and “being caught up” every single day, as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black women die from domestic violence – murdered by those who say they love us – AND gang violence AND driveby shootings AND “being caught up” as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) – like Mitrice Richardson and the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department – and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

BUT:

1. If you are dependent on the mainstream media to tell you that, you will not see it; they have no stake in that.

2. If you are dependent on Black media, you may not see it there either; they may not have the resources to do it consistently.

3. If you are not in close proximity to Black institutions or Black people – in other words, if you don’t know the folks that know – you are OOL – Out Of Luck.

In answer to your question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?” I say this: ”How come YOU don’t you care?” It appears that this question ONLY gets raised when Black people vent their RIGHTEOUS indignation and anger over unjustified, racist murders.

If YOU really cared, then you would know about the organizations that exist to stop the senseless, every day murders of Black people by Black people:

1. You would know the names of these organizations

2. You would know when their meetings are

3. You would know where their meetings were

4. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by name

5. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by sight

6. You would go to their meetings

7. You would ask them, “What can I do to help ya’ll?”

8. You would ask your Black and mainstream media, “How come ya’ll don’t write/broadcast anything about these organizations on a REGULAR basis?”

9. You would give them much needed money

10. You would give them much needed money.

I live in Los Angeles, California. These are the names I know: Cease Fire, 2nd Call, Unity One, Unity Two, Professional Community Intervention Training Institute, Project Cry No More, Mothers of the Community, Unity in the Community, Peace in the Streets …

What city do you live in? Do you know the names? Why not?

That’s what I thought.

If you genuinely and sincerely wanted to know the answer to that question, then I apologize for my tone. If you just like to stir up crap and make a scene because you’d rather the attention be on you, instead of JUSTICE for Trayvon Martin AND ALL THE OTHERS, you are a sick, sad creature.

written by Thandisizwe Chimurenga
 
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this is a whole lot of nothin but, a read. one man thinkin he speaks for a whole race.

http://allhiphop.com/2012/03/26/of-trayvon-martin-why-dont-yall-care-about-black-on-black-murder/


This is for those folks who ask the question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?”

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black men die from gang violence, driveby shootings and “being caught up” every single day, as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black women die from domestic violence – murdered by those who say they love us – AND gang violence AND driveby shootings AND “being caught up” as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) – like Mitrice Richardson and the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department – and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

BUT:

1. If you are dependent on the mainstream media to tell you that, you will not see it; they have no stake in that.

2. If you are dependent on Black media, you may not see it there either; they may not have the resources to do it consistently.

3. If you are not in close proximity to Black institutions or Black people – in other words, if you don’t know the folks that know – you are OOL – Out Of Luck.

In answer to your question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?” I say this: ”How come YOU don’t you care?” It appears that this question ONLY gets raised when Black people vent their RIGHTEOUS indignation and anger over unjustified, racist murders.

If YOU really cared, then you would know about the organizations that exist to stop the senseless, every day murders of Black people by Black people:

1. You would know the names of these organizations

2. You would know when their meetings are

3. You would know where their meetings were

4. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by name

5. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by sight

6. You would go to their meetings

7. You would ask them, “What can I do to help ya’ll?”

8. You would ask your Black and mainstream media, “How come ya’ll don’t write/broadcast anything about these organizations on a REGULAR basis?”

9. You would give them much needed money

10. You would give them much needed money.

I live in Los Angeles, California. These are the names I know: Cease Fire, 2nd Call, Unity One, Unity Two, Professional Community Intervention Training Institute, Project Cry No More, Mothers of the Community, Unity in the Community, Peace in the Streets …

What city do you live in? Do you know the names? Why not?

That’s what I thought.

If you genuinely and sincerely wanted to know the answer to that question, then I apologize for my tone. If you just like to stir up crap and make a scene because you’d rather the attention be on you, instead of JUSTICE for Trayvon Martin AND ALL THE OTHERS, you are a sick, sad creature.

written by Thandisizwe Chimurenga
Such idiocy by whomever the author is.
The point, at the end of the day is this --- blacks don't DEMAND media attention as they do in cases in which blacks are killed by non-blacks. No one besides the victim's family cares. If blacks didn't try so hard to magnify non-black vs. black crimes, then I wouldn't be so compelled to mention the lack of concern on part of the black community when it comes to black on black crimes. How come there are no rallies, protests, vigils, etc. when the case is black on black? I know the answer though. Whenever black on black crime is addressed, the addressee is labeled racist if they aren't black and labeled an Uncle Tom if they are black. If you aren't blaming everything on *the white man,* black people don't want to hear it. Responsibility isn't black people's strong suit.
 
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Such idiocy by whomever the author is.
The point, at the end of the day is this --- blacks don't DEMAND media attention as they do in cases in which blacks are killed by non-blacks. No one besides the victim's family cares. If blacks didn't try so hard to magnify non-black vs. black crimes, then I wouldn't be so compelled to mention the lack of concern on part of the black community when it comes to black on black crimes. How come there are no rallies, protests, vigils, etc. when the case is black on black? I know the answer though. Whenever black on black crime is addressed, the addressee is labeled racist if they aren't black and labeled an Uncle Tom if they are black. If you aren't blaming everything on *the white man,* black people don't want to hear it. Responsibility isn't black people's strong suit.
Your rant is full of hyperbole. I live in LA, black men are constantly being killed by each other, you might hear it on the news...again, might, but not really. You have to be in the community, read the papers, go to the churches, meetings, non-profits, etc. These places and orgs are comprise of the black community that do care, but who besides the small black papers are showing you black outrage? No black community just sits back and says lets wait for a non-black to murder a black so we can get on TV, it's just that mainstream media isn't reporting on black outrage at intra-race killing, also racial killings rise above community problems to national problems as groups see it as an attack on them not just their individual communities like a gang or drug click homocide.

And it happens with all racial killings like when those white teens in Penn. killed that mexican immigrant, that shit was plastered on the news, but we don't hear about how mexican gangs are blastin each other daily, or the outrage, or the individuals that are hurt constantly in Mexico by other Mexicans.
 
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also I am an advocate of shooting someones legs out from under them...if someone else has no pistol no need to kill them unless your own personal reasons justify...like someone hurt your child ect... but dude on cub scout mission calling police 1000 times fallowing the kid engaging him...I hope the bitch gets his ass fucked up!

Once someone engages you with intent to harm it should be up to the individual how they choose to respond. There is no protocol or right and wrong (different story for cops because we pay them to be held to a different standard).

I have seen 2 people killed by good punches to the head.
 
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I am racist, but I was actually talking about shit like this vvv trying to downplay the fact an innocent kid was murdered and shift the blame vvv
Like I said, I havn't really followed this whole thing up until now and still don't really know the story and have no bias. I was not trying to downplay anything and stated no bias either way. The thing is black on black murders occur every damn day here in KC, but there is no Al Sharpton and no neighborhood protests for them.. That's the only thing I don't understand.

My opinion on this case is simply this:

If Trayvon was on Zimmerman's property being suspicious asked to leave and doesn't leave Zimmerman walks free.

If Trayvon was walking down the street or what have you, approached and shot, Zimmerman goes to jail.

Simple as that to me. If I feel threatened on my property you can kiss your life goodbye no matter what color you are.
 

WXS STOMP3R

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Once someone engages you with intent to harm it should be up to the individual how they choose to respond. There is no protocol or right and wrong (different story for cops because we pay them to be held to a different standard).

I have seen 2 people killed by good punches to the head.


TALK ABOUT HAVING NO FUCKING CHIN...THAT BE SAD GETTING MURKED BY A PUNCH...ESPECIALLY IF WASN'T GEORGE FOREMAN IN HIS PRIME HITTING YOU...
 

Gas One

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it would be pretty wack if a rent a cop merked me for no reason and niggas went 'oh well hes been arrested for drugs and weapons he deserved it'

its a lesson ALL RACES NEED TO LEARN. ESPECIALLY RENT A COPS. dont merk unarmed young kids. i dont care what race the child is. if youre a rent a cop, you shouldnt even have a gun IMO

and just FYI, ive seen many rallies for black on black crime. my city had a 3 month rally over one of my homies being killed. but you wouldnt know that, unless you were actually involved in the black community. theres annual rallies for that in san diego. you can also pick up the newspaper 'voice and viewpoint' if you want to be involved with your african-american community and make a change. and you dont have to be black to care.
 

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Like I said, I havn't really followed this whole thing up until now and still don't really know the story and have no bias. I was not trying to downplay anything and stated no bias either way. The thing is black on black murders occur every damn day here in KC, but there is no Al Sharpton and no neighborhood protests for them.. That's the only thing I don't understand.

My opinion on this case is simply this:

If Trayvon was on Zimmerman's property being suspicious asked to leave and doesn't leave Zimmerman walks free.

If Trayvon was walking down the street or what have you, approached and shot, Zimmerman goes to jail.

Simple as that to me. If I feel threatened on my property you can kiss your life goodbye no matter what color you are.
That's not the law tho. He has to prove self defense. Just because some kid is on my lawn don't mean I have rights to blow him away. Now if a kid is on lawn with a gun then that's different. So define to me what u mean by feeling threatened?

However I agree with u on ur first paragraph. Oh we can kill each other in the streets all day and night long but let a white man kill us and all hell breaks loose. And the media just eats it up. But still and yet this is horrible.
 

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Such idiocy by whomever the author is.
The point, at the end of the day is this --- blacks don't DEMAND media attention as they do in cases in which blacks are killed by non-blacks. No one besides the victim's family cares. If blacks didn't try so hard to magnify non-black vs. black crimes, then I wouldn't be so compelled to mention the lack of concern on part of the black community when it comes to black on black crimes. How come there are no rallies, protests, vigils, etc. when the case is black on black? I know the answer though. Whenever black on black crime is addressed, the addressee is labeled racist if they aren't black and labeled an Uncle Tom if they are black. If you aren't blaming everything on *the white man,* black people don't want to hear it. Responsibility isn't black people's strong suit.

BUT WE CANT FORGET THE HISTORY THIS COUNTRY HAS WITH MINORITIES

HAD THERE NOT BEEN SLAVERY...
IF THE NATIVES DIDNT HAVE THIS COUNTRY TAKEN FROM THEM...
IF MEXICANS WEREN'T BURNT BY THE BRACERO PROGRAM...
IF THE JAPANESE WEREN'T PUT IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS...
ETC ETC
AND ALL THE OTHER HORROR STORIES OUT THERE... WHEN IT CAME TO HOW MINORITIES WERE DEALT WITH...

THIS TRAGEDY PROBABLY WOULD'NT HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF CONNOTATIONS THAT IT HAS...

LET'S BE HONEST...MOST MINORITIES DONT HAVE FAITH, THAT THEIR WELL BEING IS A PRIORITY TO WHITE AMERICA...

AND IN SOME CASES IT'S NOT TOO FAR FETCHED...

HENCE THE MISTRUST THAT HAS BEEN INGRAINED...

IT'S NATURAL...

HOPEFULLY THIS FRICTION CAN EVENTUALLY BE SMOOTHED OUT...

BUT BEING THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WASNT ALL THAT LONG AGO...

THERE'S STILL LOTS OF PROGRESS TO BE MADE.
 
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bruh people on some racist reverse racism

if a racist act is committed, they rush to portray the shit in a anti-racist light

I dont care if dude is mexican, white, or samoan, saying "**** coons" and killing a black kid is racist and wrong

off top

who cares if his parents trying to profit off his death

they could be broke as fuck, and now they broke as fuck with no son

how are you gonna judge what someone does after a traumatic life incident you dont know or own their pain

they gonna deal with it how they decide to deal with it

his fam could look dusty, ghetto, and all the wrong type of black people...the type we might clown or make comments about

but they lost a son regardless. I dont see how pointing out that dude is Mexican is relevant
 
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BUT WE CANT FORGET THE HISTORY THIS COUNTRY HAS WITH MINORITIES

HAD THERE NOT BEEN SLAVERY...
IF THE NATIVES DIDNT HAVE THIS COUNTRY TAKEN FROM THEM...
IF MEXICANS WEREN'T BURNT BY THE BRACERO PROGRAM...
IF THE JAPANESE WEREN'T PUT IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS...
ETC ETC
AND ALL THE OTHER HORROR STORIES OUT THERE... WHEN IT CAME TO HOW MINORITIES WERE DEALT WITH...

THIS TRAGEDY PROBABLY WOULD'NT HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF CONNOTATIONS THAT IT HAS...

LET'S BE HONEST...MOST MINORITIES DONT HAVE FAITH, THAT THEIR WELL BEING IS A PRIORITY TO WHITE AMERICA...

AND IN SOME CASES IT'S NOT TOO FAR FETCHED...

HENCE THE MISTRUST THAT HAS BEEN INGRAINED...

IT'S NATURAL...

HOPEFULLY THIS FRICTION CAN EVENTUALLY BE SMOOTHED OUT...

BUT BEING THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WASNT ALL THAT LONG AGO...

THERE'S STILL LOTS OF PROGRESS TO BE MADE.
What does any of that have to do with blacks killing each other and just looking the other way when it happens? You'd think that a group of people with THAT as their history would pull together and NOT kill each other at these ridiculously high rates. That, pal, has nothing to do with any slavery or any civil rights movement. Even during the years of the civil rights movement, blacks weren't killing each other like they are now. They were living in the heart of the issues that today's blacks use as an excuse for everything, and yet, they weren't doing the BS that today's blacks are doing. So, the civil rights era and slavery is nothing but a sorry excuse because the blacks who lived during that era weren't taking part in the crazy behavior that the current black generation is today.

By the way, I live in the south....where the bullshit went down. I've spoken to plenty of my elders who actually lived during that period and they say the same thing I'm saying.
 
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That's not the law tho. He has to prove self defense. Just because some kid is on my lawn don't mean I have rights to blow him away. Now if a kid is on lawn with a gun then that's different. So define to me what u mean by feeling threatened?
Well, I mean, if somebody is walking around my house (not the sidewalk) at night they gonna get like 5 seconds after I see them to explain what exactly it is their doing and GTFO my property or I'm gonna shoot. I don't know if they have any weapons on them, I got a wife and kids and their not about to be subjected to a home invasion or some shit. Proving self defense to me at that point doesn't matter and I'll face the consequences if I FEEL like my fams safety is even threatened.
 
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Well that might be the viewpoint in the racist south where niggas is still scared and white racists d what they will but that aint how our elders who was in the movement feel.