sprites lil mascot and white americas fascination w blacks.
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What does any of this have to do with "white" people? You're basically saying that even black people are making a mockery of the culture by telling us how gay you think it is for Stuart Scott (who you probably have never met) to speak with ebonics on sportscenter. What I don't understand is, how the color of your skin decides what kind of lifestyle you can live? This type of mentality, which you have expressed in your thread, is similar to that which was present in "white" people during the days of desegregation. Trying to copyright a lifestyle and set rules and standards for those who are trying to follow it. No one is stealing this culture, they are trying to be a part of it and instead of accepting it and appreciating it, there are ignorant people like you who reject it and accuse people of stealing it.
The word "white" when refering to people has become a word with a thousands meanings with the way it is carelessly mis-used in our society. Why don't you just say "wiggers" are trying to steal this culture; why don't you just say coporate America trying to steal this culture instead of claiming that a race of humans is responsible for something that you can not even prove exists.
This is a marketing scheme to target people to watch them and laugh at how dumb it is. These are just actors, not real life people on live television. It's all fake man, I'm sorry to break it to you. These mass crowds of "wiggers" that you believe to exist is just the result of the media constantly playing T.V. shows and commercials about how "its cool to be black" and "wiggers are funny" until it gets stuck in your head. It is the entire point, and you fell subject to such a scheme by laughing at it and watching it.
Out of the entire population of white people in this world, what percentage of them are "wiggers" or trying to steal black culture, one maybe two percent? Yet you generalize and say that white people are stealing culture. Do you understand how senseless that is?
Who do you think made these throwbacks. And because black people bought them up first and wore them the most they can establish it as a part of their culture, and any whites trying to wear them are stealing? Try to grasp how dumb that sounds.
It makes me sick to hear people emphasizing this and making it out to be some big problem in society. Do you have nothing to say about a black man wearing a suit or khakis? Has the black culture in no way adapted to or embraced the white culture they have been subject to over the last few decades?
You don't think white people have much of a culture?
So tell me how it is that you know Germany, Russia, Ireland, Canada, Italy, Austria, Australia, and every other country with "white" people in it has no culture, or even a little bit of culture. Tell me how it is you were able to come to this conclusion.
It seems to me that you are unable to understand what the word "white" even means. Your not just covering those in power and those trying to "steal" black culture; you not just covering every person whith lightly (pale) complected skin in the United States, but your including entire countries that you have obviously never been to or know anything about. And your talking about "white" people stealing food, what in the fuck is this all about. How does an entire race of people steal something from another culture, because I find it hard to believe this is so when 99% of the "white" people I have ever seen in my life have never stolen any concepts of food or thieved any culture from Africans.
PS: WHITE DEVIL talked about more than just taco bell.
The word "white" when refering to people has become a word with a thousands meanings with the way it is carelessly mis-used in our society. Why don't you just say "wiggers" are trying to steal this culture; why don't you just say coporate America trying to steal this culture instead of claiming that a race of humans is responsible for something that you can not even prove exists.
This is a marketing scheme to target people to watch them and laugh at how dumb it is. These are just actors, not real life people on live television. It's all fake man, I'm sorry to break it to you. These mass crowds of "wiggers" that you believe to exist is just the result of the media constantly playing T.V. shows and commercials about how "its cool to be black" and "wiggers are funny" until it gets stuck in your head. It is the entire point, and you fell subject to such a scheme by laughing at it and watching it.
Out of the entire population of white people in this world, what percentage of them are "wiggers" or trying to steal black culture, one maybe two percent? Yet you generalize and say that white people are stealing culture. Do you understand how senseless that is?
Who do you think made these throwbacks. And because black people bought them up first and wore them the most they can establish it as a part of their culture, and any whites trying to wear them are stealing? Try to grasp how dumb that sounds.
It makes me sick to hear people emphasizing this and making it out to be some big problem in society. Do you have nothing to say about a black man wearing a suit or khakis? Has the black culture in no way adapted to or embraced the white culture they have been subject to over the last few decades?
You don't think white people have much of a culture?
So tell me how it is that you know Germany, Russia, Ireland, Canada, Italy, Austria, Australia, and every other country with "white" people in it has no culture, or even a little bit of culture. Tell me how it is you were able to come to this conclusion.
It seems to me that you are unable to understand what the word "white" even means. Your not just covering those in power and those trying to "steal" black culture; you not just covering every person whith lightly (pale) complected skin in the United States, but your including entire countries that you have obviously never been to or know anything about. And your talking about "white" people stealing food, what in the fuck is this all about. How does an entire race of people steal something from another culture, because I find it hard to believe this is so when 99% of the "white" people I have ever seen in my life have never stolen any concepts of food or thieved any culture from Africans.
PS: WHITE DEVIL talked about more than just taco bell.
Funny how you talk about Europe as if its always been a whole, I seem to remember a time when "White European" America hates the Irish, the Russians, the Italians, etc. You are blind if you think of White America as a whole. If anything its the English Protestant America that is the predominant "White" in White America.
Hahaha! You can't be using the potato as an example of white culture! The potato was stolen from "The Americas." Incas were eating them long before any Irish thought it would be tasty to make it into stew.
There is no "white food." Much like there is no "Latin food" or "African Cuisine."Once again you are looking as whites as a whole. You cannot do that! When the Irish were coming here from Ireland the 'Whites' from American beat them, during the Red Scare Whites were fighting whites and almost destroyed the world. etc etc, Whites themselves have shown who they consider white and who they don't.
Why bring up Nacho Bellgrandes? Thats a "White food" if anything. Besides I can think up alot of things Whites have done that NO OTHER race of people
has ever done to there extent. Genocide, slavery, invasions.
I'm not hating on white people but I am hating on the shit that's been done by them to others. Besides if 'white people' hadnt forced great cultures into stupidity maybe these inventions wouldnt be White Ideas. Maybe they would be Mexican Ideas, Chinese Ideas, South African ideas, etc.
Hahaha! You can't be using the potato as an example of white culture! The potato was stolen from "The Americas." Incas were eating them long before any Irish thought it would be tasty to make it into stew.
There is no "white food." Much like there is no "Latin food" or "African Cuisine."Once again you are looking as whites as a whole. You cannot do that! When the Irish were coming here from Ireland the 'Whites' from American beat them, during the Red Scare Whites were fighting whites and almost destroyed the world. etc etc, Whites themselves have shown who they consider white and who they don't.
Why bring up Nacho Bellgrandes? Thats a "White food" if anything. Besides I can think up alot of things Whites have done that NO OTHER race of people
has ever done to there extent. Genocide, slavery, invasions.
I'm not hating on white people but I am hating on the shit that's been done by them to others. Besides if 'white people' hadnt forced great cultures into stupidity maybe these inventions wouldnt be White Ideas. Maybe they would be Mexican Ideas, Chinese Ideas, South African ideas, etc.
It aint no surprise that blacks and whites steal shit for everyone just like everybody does. Why are you on here trying to make whites look bad? You got beef with white people as a whole? Plus rap is better then it ever has been. Save that black domination shit for a fairy tale weekemd with your bitch. Come in here fronting that racist shit. I bet you dont say that racist shit to white people though. You a closet racist.
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^^^^Shut the fuck up, it's good to see my post got your panties wet. I was just spittin facts, whites have been stealing and exploiting Black folks since day 1. Just look at what happened when rap first came out, MOST white folks rejected it and were talking down on it thinking it was some fad that would go away. And now that it's a billion dollar industry they wanna jump on tha bandwagon acting they were down from the start. Fuck that, now it's controlled by a bunch of corporate white fools trying to water it down so clowns like you in the middle of nowhere can enjoy it.
nothin about what you said affected me besides this -- its a pretty ignorant statement considering its completely wrong -- youd be looking at white people as a whole if this was true -- which contradicts your "dont look at whites as a whole" bullshit you were pulling before -- i vaguely remember a genocide attempt in africa (black on black) where an entire nation of people who hated another groups religion went around with machetes killing people (yes just machetes) they slaughtered 500,000 men women and children and left countless others without limbs and family members. Arabs still secretly slave trade today from africa and were slave trading 300 years before whites ever took a single black man from africa -- the arabs pillage small towns, raping the women and killing the men, the women are taken as sex slaves and sold away from their children -- whats the point of bringing up any of this today?? if i had to guess -- the romans were the biggest group of white people to invade/conquer -- so does that mean im part of that group? -- the arabs stole more slaves from africa than any other nation (and then black people convert to islam while the same people theyre converting to are stealing slaves from their "mother land"). -- hitler/germans commited the worst genocide in the history of recorded time -- does that mean that since their skin was the same shade as mine im in that white group of killers? im not even fuckin german -- quit lookin at "white people" as a whole
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Firstly I still say you cannot look at white people as a whole. When I said you could was simply for the sake of arguement. Think about it you. I don't see them as ONE people because they are not, WHITE DEVIL does so I was speaking to him in regards to something he was speaking about, if that is too much for you to grasp then you are on the wrong board.
Yawn. I vividly
remember the Genocide of the Aztec empire, 25 million people inhabited that empire 98% were killed, the rest assimilated. Same thing with the continent of Africa, Incan, Navajo, Apache, etc, etc, etc, etc!
'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!
What's the point of forgetting the past?
Did I say you were? No. But as a whole 'your people' have and are fucking others.
Do you even know why these African tribes sold people? Its easy to point a finger at Africans when you cookie cut what you want. In Western Africa there are huge numbers of kingoms, now these kingdoms fought for land and obviously sold only their POWS. Now if Arabs and White people didn't have a need for slaves then there would be no slave market. Yes, Africans are guilty of selling people from their own continent/country/kingdom but if whites and arabs didnt want slaves then there would be no selling of slaves. Also I seem to remember Europe sending about 30million african's to the Americas, Although only about 10-15 million survived the trip. Where as Arabs took about 17 million slaves. Those are huge numbers from each group but its quite clear White Europeans were the ones that took the most slaves. So you statement is a load of shit
Another bullshit statement. Hitler killed what? 6 million Jews? Now think about the White Europeans, they took how many Africans into bondage? How many were lost while making the trip? But the biggest Genocide is still the one that was commited on the Aztec Empire. During the time of the Spanish Conquest of Mexico the Aztec Empire had about 25 MILLION PEOPLE, China at the same time had about 25 million people. China now has 1 billion people living in there, Mexico has about 130 million, think about how many people never got a chance to live! Conquistradors = white, Hitler = white, France = White, Stalin = White, Bush = White, see the pattern?
I know, I said that.
Yawn. I vividly
remember the Genocide of the Aztec empire, 25 million people inhabited that empire 98% were killed, the rest assimilated. Same thing with the continent of Africa, Incan, Navajo, Apache, etc, etc, etc, etc!
'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!
What's the point of forgetting the past?
Did I say you were? No. But as a whole 'your people' have and are fucking others.
Do you even know why these African tribes sold people? Its easy to point a finger at Africans when you cookie cut what you want. In Western Africa there are huge numbers of kingoms, now these kingdoms fought for land and obviously sold only their POWS. Now if Arabs and White people didn't have a need for slaves then there would be no slave market. Yes, Africans are guilty of selling people from their own continent/country/kingdom but if whites and arabs didnt want slaves then there would be no selling of slaves. Also I seem to remember Europe sending about 30million african's to the Americas, Although only about 10-15 million survived the trip. Where as Arabs took about 17 million slaves. Those are huge numbers from each group but its quite clear White Europeans were the ones that took the most slaves. So you statement is a load of shit
Another bullshit statement. Hitler killed what? 6 million Jews? Now think about the White Europeans, they took how many Africans into bondage? How many were lost while making the trip? But the biggest Genocide is still the one that was commited on the Aztec Empire. During the time of the Spanish Conquest of Mexico the Aztec Empire had about 25 MILLION PEOPLE, China at the same time had about 25 million people. China now has 1 billion people living in there, Mexico has about 130 million, think about how many people never got a chance to live! Conquistradors = white, Hitler = white, France = White, Stalin = White, Bush = White, see the pattern?
I know, I said that.
Absolutely, but for the purposes of this argument a "white" generalization has been made. Regardless of the numerical supremacy of white protestant English, for better or for worse white people have been grouped in this thread.
Absolutely...the potato was taken back to Europe in 1570. But whatever, if you want to use the logic of origination, black people didn't invent jazz, since the spaniards invented the guitar. Morse didn't invent Morse Code, because Bell discovered properties of electrical current, and so on, and so on. There are foods intrinsic to European countries, and they are examples of white culture.
Just like there is no "average person", but once again white people are being grouped. If you say there is no white food or culture you are referring to both individualized European ethnicities and white people as a whole.
Society and people on this board have grouped whites as a whole, thus the basis for statements regarding white cultural validity. When you address both individual slices of the pizza and the whole thing, it is suitable to address the umbrella category.
AskG the brain surgeon brought up Taco Bell.
Another thing white people did that no one else did was explore the globe. Yes, they killed, raped, murdered, stole, and enslaved, but who would have known if things would have been better/worse had Africans or South Americans had the exchange of information, the technology, and the relative cooperation that Europe had? Logic suggests that had any of the great empires of Africa or the Americas would have done the same had they the ability. I don't honestly see Shaka Zulu, Montezuma, etc., exploring the world in the name of peace and diplomacy. White people have done some of the worst things ever, and they also done some of the best, including advances in medicine, communication, improved standards of living, etc. It is predominately "White" America that is launching some of the largest humanitarian missions in the world. And it is White Liberals who are largely responsible for the movement in Western and Global thought to now appreciate and attempt to preserve other cultures, even if in afterthought to the previous mistakes of the past.
Absolutely...the potato was taken back to Europe in 1570. But whatever, if you want to use the logic of origination, black people didn't invent jazz, since the spaniards invented the guitar. Morse didn't invent Morse Code, because Bell discovered properties of electrical current, and so on, and so on. There are foods intrinsic to European countries, and they are examples of white culture.
Just like there is no "average person", but once again white people are being grouped. If you say there is no white food or culture you are referring to both individualized European ethnicities and white people as a whole.
Society and people on this board have grouped whites as a whole, thus the basis for statements regarding white cultural validity. When you address both individual slices of the pizza and the whole thing, it is suitable to address the umbrella category.
AskG the brain surgeon brought up Taco Bell.
Another thing white people did that no one else did was explore the globe. Yes, they killed, raped, murdered, stole, and enslaved, but who would have known if things would have been better/worse had Africans or South Americans had the exchange of information, the technology, and the relative cooperation that Europe had? Logic suggests that had any of the great empires of Africa or the Americas would have done the same had they the ability. I don't honestly see Shaka Zulu, Montezuma, etc., exploring the world in the name of peace and diplomacy. White people have done some of the worst things ever, and they also done some of the best, including advances in medicine, communication, improved standards of living, etc. It is predominately "White" America that is launching some of the largest humanitarian missions in the world. And it is White Liberals who are largely responsible for the movement in Western and Global thought to now appreciate and attempt to preserve other cultures, even if in afterthought to the previous mistakes of the past.
"Firstly I still say you cannot look at white people as a whole. When I said you could was simply for the sake of arguement. Think about it you. I don't see them as ONE people because they are not, WHITE DEVIL does so I was speaking to him in regards to something he was speaking about, if that is too much for you to grasp then you are on the wrong board.
Yawn. I vividly
remember the Genocide of the Aztec empire, 25 million people inhabited that empire 98% were killed, the rest assimilated. Same thing with the continent of Africa, Incan, Navajo, Apache, etc, etc, etc, etc!"
The Aztec empire reigned for only a few decades. It wasn't representative of thousands of years of Mesoamerican history. That isnt GENOCIDE -- thats subjugating and conquering!!!!!! Euro-settlers wanted gold -- not to exterminate the aztec empire -- not that the shit was right but the euros didnt roll in there trying to exterminate the peoples
"'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!"
What the fuck do the Goths and the Barbarians have to do with anything? Ok -- Your saying "white people" and its sounding uneducated as fuck to put Barbarians and Goths in a group and call them "White People" -- lol they were fuckin animals who did everything you said they did and more -- calling them "white people" is associating Now with Then
What's the point of forgetting the past?
^^^Dont forget it - just dont use things from thousands of years ago to argue about shit happening now -- its pointless
Did I say you were? No. But as a whole 'your people' have and are fucking others.
I dont see myself as a "white person" -- its my melatonin that makes me look pale -- not my past or the other people on earth with pale skin -- the rest of me is an educated individual -- you cant group people by skin color
"Do you even know why these African tribes sold people? Its easy to point a finger at Africans when you cookie cut what you want. In Western Africa there are huge numbers of kingoms, now these kingdoms fought for land and obviously sold only their POWS. Now if Arabs and White people didn't have a need for slaves then there would be no slave market. Yes, Africans are guilty of selling people from their own continent/country/kingdom but if whites and arabs didnt want slaves then there would be no selling of slaves. Also I seem to remember Europe sending about 30million african's to the Americas, Although only about 10-15 million survived the trip. Where as Arabs took about 17 million slaves. Those are huge numbers from each group but its quite clear White Europeans were the ones that took the most slaves. So you statement is a load of shit "
we could go into the barbarism of almost every culture that's ever existed -- if we're applying today's standards to the past, pretty much everyone fails -- what am i cookie cutting? -- your not educated in sociology apparently -- if broken down to the human mind and how it works -- any growing empire with economic needs and a big population resorts to slaves no matter what skin color -- Europe sent how many slaves? id like to see a source for numbers like that -- sounds blown outta proportion -- especially the arab slave numbers where did you get that from??
"Another bullshit statement. Hitler killed what? 6 million Jews? Now think about the White Europeans, they took how many Africans into bondage? How many were lost while making the trip? But the biggest Genocide is still the one that was commited on the Aztec Empire. During the time of the Spanish Conquest of Mexico the Aztec Empire had about 25 MILLION PEOPLE, China at the same time had about 25 million people. China now has 1 billion people living in there, Mexico has about 130 million, think about how many people never got a chance to live! Conquistradors = white, Hitler = white, France = White, Stalin = White, Bush = White, see the pattern? "
like i said before -- genocide is a systematic execution of people to make them extinct -- i didnt say shit about taking people into bondage and numbers killed when people are conquered -- thats war
I know, I said that.
Yawn. I vividly
remember the Genocide of the Aztec empire, 25 million people inhabited that empire 98% were killed, the rest assimilated. Same thing with the continent of Africa, Incan, Navajo, Apache, etc, etc, etc, etc!"
The Aztec empire reigned for only a few decades. It wasn't representative of thousands of years of Mesoamerican history. That isnt GENOCIDE -- thats subjugating and conquering!!!!!! Euro-settlers wanted gold -- not to exterminate the aztec empire -- not that the shit was right but the euros didnt roll in there trying to exterminate the peoples
"'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!"
What the fuck do the Goths and the Barbarians have to do with anything? Ok -- Your saying "white people" and its sounding uneducated as fuck to put Barbarians and Goths in a group and call them "White People" -- lol they were fuckin animals who did everything you said they did and more -- calling them "white people" is associating Now with Then
What's the point of forgetting the past?
^^^Dont forget it - just dont use things from thousands of years ago to argue about shit happening now -- its pointless
Did I say you were? No. But as a whole 'your people' have and are fucking others.
I dont see myself as a "white person" -- its my melatonin that makes me look pale -- not my past or the other people on earth with pale skin -- the rest of me is an educated individual -- you cant group people by skin color
"Do you even know why these African tribes sold people? Its easy to point a finger at Africans when you cookie cut what you want. In Western Africa there are huge numbers of kingoms, now these kingdoms fought for land and obviously sold only their POWS. Now if Arabs and White people didn't have a need for slaves then there would be no slave market. Yes, Africans are guilty of selling people from their own continent/country/kingdom but if whites and arabs didnt want slaves then there would be no selling of slaves. Also I seem to remember Europe sending about 30million african's to the Americas, Although only about 10-15 million survived the trip. Where as Arabs took about 17 million slaves. Those are huge numbers from each group but its quite clear White Europeans were the ones that took the most slaves. So you statement is a load of shit "
we could go into the barbarism of almost every culture that's ever existed -- if we're applying today's standards to the past, pretty much everyone fails -- what am i cookie cutting? -- your not educated in sociology apparently -- if broken down to the human mind and how it works -- any growing empire with economic needs and a big population resorts to slaves no matter what skin color -- Europe sent how many slaves? id like to see a source for numbers like that -- sounds blown outta proportion -- especially the arab slave numbers where did you get that from??
"Another bullshit statement. Hitler killed what? 6 million Jews? Now think about the White Europeans, they took how many Africans into bondage? How many were lost while making the trip? But the biggest Genocide is still the one that was commited on the Aztec Empire. During the time of the Spanish Conquest of Mexico the Aztec Empire had about 25 MILLION PEOPLE, China at the same time had about 25 million people. China now has 1 billion people living in there, Mexico has about 130 million, think about how many people never got a chance to live! Conquistradors = white, Hitler = white, France = White, Stalin = White, Bush = White, see the pattern? "
like i said before -- genocide is a systematic execution of people to make them extinct -- i didnt say shit about taking people into bondage and numbers killed when people are conquered -- thats war
I know, I said that.
People on this thread are ignorant on this subject.
I would agree with you were I a bit more suseptible to others opinions. But What is stew? Water and then X, X being the coffecicient of tasiness. When you have carrot stew your X is a carrot, when you have rabbit stew your X is a rabbit. Potato stew is more or less a potato boiled in water, thats not much of a recipe. Besides how do you know Potato stew wasn't consumed in Peru hundreds of years before the Spaniars invaded? Aside from that Jazz is not only a guitar, Morse Code is a code so electrical currents are irrelevant since you can have a conversation in morse code by clicking your teeth, and so on and so on.
Agreed.
But you are perpetuating ignorance in doing so, I admit I also called them White People
as a whole, but that was only to state my opinion and set up my arguement that there is no White People. There are people who seem pinkish/peach but they have no one culture.
I was asking what you were denotating with that comment.
So there exploration of the Globe is justified somehow? Because that is how you are making it sound. Logic dictates a lot of things my friend, but many of those things are illogical.
Really? I seem to remember Montezuma greeting the Spaniards with open arms and gifts, they treated them as Gods, how's that for hospitality?
They sure have
It's easy to say this especially since the Aftermath of "White" colinization has left most of the world in poverty and ignorance.
The thing here is what you said, "even if in the afterthought." Its pretty hard to forgive someone after slavery, destruction of your people, ignorance, keeping you in poverty, kickint you out of your own land, and making coconuts (brown on the outside, white on the inside) like Mclean.
I would agree with you were I a bit more suseptible to others opinions. But What is stew? Water and then X, X being the coffecicient of tasiness. When you have carrot stew your X is a carrot, when you have rabbit stew your X is a rabbit. Potato stew is more or less a potato boiled in water, thats not much of a recipe. Besides how do you know Potato stew wasn't consumed in Peru hundreds of years before the Spaniars invaded? Aside from that Jazz is not only a guitar, Morse Code is a code so electrical currents are irrelevant since you can have a conversation in morse code by clicking your teeth, and so on and so on.
Agreed.
But you are perpetuating ignorance in doing so, I admit I also called them White People
as a whole, but that was only to state my opinion and set up my arguement that there is no White People. There are people who seem pinkish/peach but they have no one culture.
I was asking what you were denotating with that comment.
So there exploration of the Globe is justified somehow? Because that is how you are making it sound. Logic dictates a lot of things my friend, but many of those things are illogical.
Really? I seem to remember Montezuma greeting the Spaniards with open arms and gifts, they treated them as Gods, how's that for hospitality?
They sure have
It's easy to say this especially since the Aftermath of "White" colinization has left most of the world in poverty and ignorance.
The thing here is what you said, "even if in the afterthought." Its pretty hard to forgive someone after slavery, destruction of your people, ignorance, keeping you in poverty, kickint you out of your own land, and making coconuts (brown on the outside, white on the inside) like Mclean.
Is it only black culture that is being exploited, or is it *anything* that can be marketed for a great deal of money. Your forgetting that it works both ways; for America to exploit a black man, that man must be willing to sell himself out for ("white") America; blacks have done this on a large scale. So it really makes no sense to place any more blame on America than blacks themselves. More importantly, we can not catagorize and label such exploitation to a specific race. Europeans forced Africans into America, but they did not force them into recording studios. Big business does not operate based on skin color, it's all about dollar signs. When music in America began, record labels were built by white people, for purposes of attracting any form of musical talent that could be marketed in this country. This is the way business operates HERESY, corporate America will sell their own white mothers out if they knew it would bring them profits.
In the beginning the market world was built around white culture (various nationalities from around the world). Blacks became more and more equal in society (thanks to the civil rights era and affirmative action) and were accepted in such activities as music (on a much larger more mainstream scale) and the sporting world. The result of this is what you call exploitation. Do you think every African American should work under black owned businesses? This would cause much more trouble then it would relief.
Who do you think is to blame for blacks being exploited, "white people", or the black people who sell themselves and their culture out for (selfish) money. These black artists and athletes are not forced to do touchdown dances and cut super tight mainstream hip-hop albums. If this "black exploitation" is significant, and if there is blame to be placed for its existance, you would have to look past just the white race and into the black community if you are going to find out how things became so unbalanced. There are no laws or regulations that prevent African Americans from starting their own record label, and there certainly is not a lack of funding because a lot of these cats are sittin real nice.
I see (in the hip-hop industry) artists all over starting their own music business, so much so that it's nothing more than a couple of quality artists on each label. Why are they doing this, is it just to get away from getting ripped off by big record labels, or are these people trying to emmulate the very "white" race that is exploiting them. Is this not the act of selfishness?
Why don't these artists stop spending and start investing. Instead of trying to be "THE LABEL", why don't these artists come together and build. If it meant so much to the culture that blacks are being exploited; if this is such an immoral act by white people then it shouldn't be such a birden to at least try. Jay-Z is on the right track, but why are so many others reluctant to follow in his footsteps?
I'll tell you why.
People fail to see things in the long run, and care only for short-term self-pleasureable market spending. Why put my money into black owned businesses, when you can buy a brand new ferarii and get any bitch you want. Thats what people are after, "the life". Money, fast cars, and bitches. After they do this they write a song about it and everyone else follows.
Solution: Invest into black owned businesses. The only thing uglier then a white man "exploiting" a black man for money, is this black man taking his profit and puting it right back into the pockets of corporate America but spending it on material items.
DO YOU THINK ANY OF THESE MILLIONAIRE BLACK ARTISTS GIVE A SHIT ABOUT AMERICA EXPLOITING
CULTURES FOR MONETARY GAIN? IF THEY DID WHY DO THEY SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO SUCH EVIL.
ILL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST. IT'S A MYTH. IMAGINATION.
A black man goes up to a white owner and tells him he has a hip-hop album. The white man listens to it and says, "okay, we'll hook you up". Then master it, distribute it, and it goes platinum. Damn that white devil, exploiting blacks for monetary gain. The black man is cool, he didn't sell his own culture out, his hands are clean. We are supposed to take the millions of dollars these hip-hop artists and professional athletes are making, blame the success all on "whites", but at the same time, lets label, stereotype, and put them down for doing it.
You see whites "exploiting" blacks as a problem.
I see it as a solution to a much bigger problem, that being the crisis of blacks being forced into poverty.
What is your source for this. Tell me how it is that you know the "majority" of every person with white colored skin in the United States REJECTED rap music when it first came out. Did you take a survey when it hit the scene, did you read it from some polls taken in the early 80's?, or did you pick up that fake notion from some other black guy singing the same song, who also has absolutely no proof for his findings. What was the "black" public opinion on rap music, did they *ALL* accept it right away? Research that. Listen, no one is stealing anything. We're stealing hip-hop? Rap music? Whites owned it from the beginning son. We're stealing your slang and style? Your arguement would say that white people, by marketing it and spreading it, created this as well.
If half of what you are saying is true, then white people designed the African American culture as you know it today.
Now that it's a billion dollar industry? White people made it a billion dollar industry genius, how the fuck do you think it got that way; you think rock-a-fella records and so so def are to atribute for the success of hip-hop? Please. Blackjack, please tell me who funded the rap game before corporate America got their hands on it. Answer: NO ONE. You want to know who is jumping on the bandwagon? Black artists. This whole "whites exploiting blacks" is such a sure thing, yet black artists are lining and begging record label owners to just listen to their tape. I see black locals at school and work trying to sell every white person in sight albums from his trunk, why is this? Oh thats right, hip-hop, as it sits today, is dependant on the white man for the extreme success it has. Without the white consumers, you can take away the gold albums. Take away the white owners, you don't even have albums.
And if your answer is that, without white record labels, blacks would start them theirselves and bring hip-hop back to the same level, then I will tell you, why the fuck wait?
DO THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW.
In the beginning the market world was built around white culture (various nationalities from around the world). Blacks became more and more equal in society (thanks to the civil rights era and affirmative action) and were accepted in such activities as music (on a much larger more mainstream scale) and the sporting world. The result of this is what you call exploitation. Do you think every African American should work under black owned businesses? This would cause much more trouble then it would relief.
Who do you think is to blame for blacks being exploited, "white people", or the black people who sell themselves and their culture out for (selfish) money. These black artists and athletes are not forced to do touchdown dances and cut super tight mainstream hip-hop albums. If this "black exploitation" is significant, and if there is blame to be placed for its existance, you would have to look past just the white race and into the black community if you are going to find out how things became so unbalanced. There are no laws or regulations that prevent African Americans from starting their own record label, and there certainly is not a lack of funding because a lot of these cats are sittin real nice.
I see (in the hip-hop industry) artists all over starting their own music business, so much so that it's nothing more than a couple of quality artists on each label. Why are they doing this, is it just to get away from getting ripped off by big record labels, or are these people trying to emmulate the very "white" race that is exploiting them. Is this not the act of selfishness?
Why don't these artists stop spending and start investing. Instead of trying to be "THE LABEL", why don't these artists come together and build. If it meant so much to the culture that blacks are being exploited; if this is such an immoral act by white people then it shouldn't be such a birden to at least try. Jay-Z is on the right track, but why are so many others reluctant to follow in his footsteps?
I'll tell you why.
People fail to see things in the long run, and care only for short-term self-pleasureable market spending. Why put my money into black owned businesses, when you can buy a brand new ferarii and get any bitch you want. Thats what people are after, "the life". Money, fast cars, and bitches. After they do this they write a song about it and everyone else follows.
Solution: Invest into black owned businesses. The only thing uglier then a white man "exploiting" a black man for money, is this black man taking his profit and puting it right back into the pockets of corporate America but spending it on material items.
DO YOU THINK ANY OF THESE MILLIONAIRE BLACK ARTISTS GIVE A SHIT ABOUT AMERICA EXPLOITING
CULTURES FOR MONETARY GAIN? IF THEY DID WHY DO THEY SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO SUCH EVIL.
ILL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST. IT'S A MYTH. IMAGINATION.
A black man goes up to a white owner and tells him he has a hip-hop album. The white man listens to it and says, "okay, we'll hook you up". Then master it, distribute it, and it goes platinum. Damn that white devil, exploiting blacks for monetary gain. The black man is cool, he didn't sell his own culture out, his hands are clean. We are supposed to take the millions of dollars these hip-hop artists and professional athletes are making, blame the success all on "whites", but at the same time, lets label, stereotype, and put them down for doing it.
You see whites "exploiting" blacks as a problem.
I see it as a solution to a much bigger problem, that being the crisis of blacks being forced into poverty.
What is your source for this. Tell me how it is that you know the "majority" of every person with white colored skin in the United States REJECTED rap music when it first came out. Did you take a survey when it hit the scene, did you read it from some polls taken in the early 80's?, or did you pick up that fake notion from some other black guy singing the same song, who also has absolutely no proof for his findings. What was the "black" public opinion on rap music, did they *ALL* accept it right away? Research that. Listen, no one is stealing anything. We're stealing hip-hop? Rap music? Whites owned it from the beginning son. We're stealing your slang and style? Your arguement would say that white people, by marketing it and spreading it, created this as well.
If half of what you are saying is true, then white people designed the African American culture as you know it today.
Now that it's a billion dollar industry? White people made it a billion dollar industry genius, how the fuck do you think it got that way; you think rock-a-fella records and so so def are to atribute for the success of hip-hop? Please. Blackjack, please tell me who funded the rap game before corporate America got their hands on it. Answer: NO ONE. You want to know who is jumping on the bandwagon? Black artists. This whole "whites exploiting blacks" is such a sure thing, yet black artists are lining and begging record label owners to just listen to their tape. I see black locals at school and work trying to sell every white person in sight albums from his trunk, why is this? Oh thats right, hip-hop, as it sits today, is dependant on the white man for the extreme success it has. Without the white consumers, you can take away the gold albums. Take away the white owners, you don't even have albums.
And if your answer is that, without white record labels, blacks would start them theirselves and bring hip-hop back to the same level, then I will tell you, why the fuck wait?
DO THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW.
They reigned at least 200 years, though that is relatively short they would have undoubtedly reigned more had the Spaniards never set foot in Mexico.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I guess Jews are a bunch of little bitches then right? There was never any real Jewish Genocide, I mean jews had 6,000,000 casualties the Mexica had 23,000,000.
They didn't try to exterminate the people? Really? Damn, I wonder how much worse it would have been had they tried to exterminate them. I probably wouldn't even be here.
What do they have to do? You're trying to pass the blame to the Arabs. It is true they had millions of African Slaves, but slavery was not relatively knew to White Europe. How is it uneducated to call them "White People?" White people called the Natives of this land savage, I'm mearly bringing out the truth. White People, aka Europeans have been savages also, you can't run away from your cultural past."'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!"
Exactly!
Melatonin doesn't make you white, lack of melatonin would make you white (if I remember biology correctly). If anything you are pink/ peach and that is what you are. You may not share a culture with other "Peach People" but you do share the past and your "Peach people" have fucked the mud races too damn long!
We could get the Barbarim of every culture and possible and compare them and as a whole "White people" have done the most crimes against humanity.
You are downplaying the negative role White Europeans had on culture upon culture of people.
Apperently I am responding to EVERY single statement you have made, where as you have only responded to mine as a whole. What about the 25million of my people that were destroyed? What about the African Slaves? How many African tribes gone to England and taken 30million slaves? When was the last time Mexico invaded Russia and killed 98% of their population?
Whites were obviously driven by greed. They have had more slaves than any other people as a whole. No other people have had as many slaves as they had.
Europeans sent 500,000 to 600,000 slaves to North America in 1619 alone! Thats the first year of slavery in the US and they had sent half a million, slavery lasted a lot longer than that and the numbers really don't seem that far off.
http://innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html (Even has there sourses next to their facts)
and if i can ever find it, i'll look into my Zimm Book on US History.
That's war? Systematic execution of people to make them extinct? Ok, I'll work with that.
1) Europeans saw the land
2) They wanted the land
3) They saw natives on the land
4) They killed the natives
5) They imprisoned the rest (they needed the slave labor)
6) In the process they destoroyed 23,000,000+ people.
If that is not systematic then I ask you this question what do you call the near extinction of a people as a whole? It cannot possibly be an answer as simple as war, right now if the US attacks Japan without provocation or reason and kill 98% of the Japanese and enslave the rest, I will find it hard to believe that it is not genocide.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I guess Jews are a bunch of little bitches then right? There was never any real Jewish Genocide, I mean jews had 6,000,000 casualties the Mexica had 23,000,000.
They didn't try to exterminate the people? Really? Damn, I wonder how much worse it would have been had they tried to exterminate them. I probably wouldn't even be here.
What do they have to do? You're trying to pass the blame to the Arabs. It is true they had millions of African Slaves, but slavery was not relatively knew to White Europe. How is it uneducated to call them "White People?" White people called the Natives of this land savage, I'm mearly bringing out the truth. White People, aka Europeans have been savages also, you can't run away from your cultural past."'White' people can be traced back to their barbaric nomadic tribes. These tribes (the goth, vikings, etc) had slaves a loooong time before 'civilized' Europe came about, they raped, killed, mated with their family, almost never showered, ate humans, etc. These tribes date a long time ago. Besides Whites have had MORE slaves than any other ethnicity of people EVER. Name one people that has had more slaves than whites, you cant! Think about the Goths, the Vikings, the barbarians, the spaniards, the englishmen, the french, the portuguese. They even had the never to claim North AND South America as their land and they still do!"
Exactly!
Melatonin doesn't make you white, lack of melatonin would make you white (if I remember biology correctly). If anything you are pink/ peach and that is what you are. You may not share a culture with other "Peach People" but you do share the past and your "Peach people" have fucked the mud races too damn long!
We could get the Barbarim of every culture and possible and compare them and as a whole "White people" have done the most crimes against humanity.
You are downplaying the negative role White Europeans had on culture upon culture of people.
Apperently I am responding to EVERY single statement you have made, where as you have only responded to mine as a whole. What about the 25million of my people that were destroyed? What about the African Slaves? How many African tribes gone to England and taken 30million slaves? When was the last time Mexico invaded Russia and killed 98% of their population?
Whites were obviously driven by greed. They have had more slaves than any other people as a whole. No other people have had as many slaves as they had.
Europeans sent 500,000 to 600,000 slaves to North America in 1619 alone! Thats the first year of slavery in the US and they had sent half a million, slavery lasted a lot longer than that and the numbers really don't seem that far off.
http://innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html (Even has there sourses next to their facts)
and if i can ever find it, i'll look into my Zimm Book on US History.
That's war? Systematic execution of people to make them extinct? Ok, I'll work with that.
1) Europeans saw the land
2) They wanted the land
3) They saw natives on the land
4) They killed the natives
5) They imprisoned the rest (they needed the slave labor)
6) In the process they destoroyed 23,000,000+ people.
If that is not systematic then I ask you this question what do you call the near extinction of a people as a whole? It cannot possibly be an answer as simple as war, right now if the US attacks Japan without provocation or reason and kill 98% of the Japanese and enslave the rest, I will find it hard to believe that it is not genocide.
[every white in the US be it european descent be it irish descent or whatever freaking else white skinned bastard on earth there is...pretty much all the same...call it a generilization...call it racist...they all got the same mentality...the mentality of superiority because theyre white in america. :knockout:
Where are you? This shit can be broken down by anyone from an idiot to a pure genius, it's been done on here before, but it is the intelligence, truthfullness, and relevance of what one says that matters. If you feel that something I or anyone else on this board said was in error, then speak for yourself. Don't encourage HERESY to break shit down for you, especially when it doesn't need to be. I have seen certain (black) individuals on this board say the same things I have, then argue when it when I say it, simply because I am not black. While I can't argue with that, I would expect HERESY or EDJ to attempt to break shit down even if they agree 99% with what I'm saying.
How the fuck do you know? What percentage of this white generalized race have you associated with? I suspect very, very few, which is why your opinon means very little. You can say those racist things, hoping to gain respect from folks on this board, but your just a kid fuckin' around like that. I know for a fact you are wrong because my mentality is far from that which you described.
How the fuck do you know? What percentage of this white generalized race have you associated with? I suspect very, very few, which is why your opinon means very little. You can say those racist things, hoping to gain respect from folks on this board, but your just a kid fuckin' around like that. I know for a fact you are wrong because my mentality is far from that which you described.