So now that Cheney clearly won the debate....

[nefar559]

Want to talk about lies, but you have not once said anything about what edwards was saying in the debate. Kerry/ Edwards lies they say 200 billion was spent on iraq. In reality it is 120 billion to Iraq and 80 billion to Afghanistan and the global war on terrorism. Kerry/Edwards lies they say that we're 90% of the casualties on the coalition side when infact the new Iraqi gov. has taken 50% of all total casualties on the coalition side. Another lie about getting more countries involved in the war in Iraq. France and Germany both said that they will not help us if kerry is elected or not. And why would they anyway according to kerry/edwards its a wrong war to begin with, so why would they help?

you want to talk about lies?
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=119243

@nefar559 and yes to your comment I do support the UFW, and I do support Bush/Cheney over Kerry/Edwards.

i suggest you read up more on UFW, and current issues. if you really do support UFW and AFL-CIO
http://www.ufw.org/2104kerry.htm

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

West you ain't even knowin the Bush administration's racist ass bullshit stance on Mexicans and immigration, their views on minorities and policies towards them, and the way their administration consistently looks out for nobody but rich white people.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Cesar Chavez-founded UFW backs Kerry, citing ‘shared vision’ of helping Latinos ‘achieve the decent life America promises’



United Farm Workers President Arturo S. Rodriguez issued the following statement from the union’s headquarters in Keene, Calif. near Bakersfield after the Cesar Chavez-founded UFW endorsed Sen. John F. Kerry for President:



More than three and a half decades after Cesar Chavez embraced Robert F. Kennedy’s 1968 presidential campaign, the United Farm Workers proudly supports Senator John Kerry for President because he shares our vision of helping Latinos and all people achieve the decent life America promises those who work hard for a living.



Farm workers are among the hardest-working, tax-paying workers in our country. They perform some of the hardest and most important labor in our nation: feeding America and much of the world. Senator Kerry shares our commitment to raising the minimum wage, providing affordable health care for everyone and offering our children the best quality public education.



We trust Senator Kerry because of his long history with us, from participating in the grape boycott during the mid-1970s to supporting the right of California strawberry workers to organize in the late 1990s.



Most recently, we have worked with Senator Kerry on bipartisan legislation dealing fairly with the immigration dilemma facing immigrant workers, their families and employers—the AgJobs bill, S. 1645, that John Kerry co-sponsors along with 50 other U.S. senators from both parties. It is far more meaningful than the empty rhetoric of the immigration plan President Bush proposed in January.


Senator Kerry represents the hope that Latinos and other Americans can once again have a government that truly acts on behalf of working people.

 

[jay deuce]

be careful who you introduce yourself to at the next siccness bbq.

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[WestRumble]

West you ain't even knowin the Bush administration's racist ass bullshit stance on Mexicans and immigration, their views on minorities and policies towards them, and the way their administration consistently looks out for nobody but rich white people.

Bush has the most diverse administration ever! Bush's nephew is half mexican. Bush's little brother Jeb Bush governor of Florida, married a mexican lady and they have a son together and he might run for president in the future. Is this all you got are lies and conspiracies. Thats real great. I've already heard all this bullshit a thousand times. Kerry is only looking out for himself he is going to tax us all. He plans on spending 2 trillion dollars. He voted to raise taxes 98 times in the Senate. Check his records. John Kerrys Senate records don't lie. We're all going to be highly taxed. He's thinking of getting a stronger coalition. Only way if he can do that is if he is going to give them a paycheck. He will put 1,000s of extra cops, build new police stations, more equipment, higher technologies, and more advanced police vehicles on the streets and in the air that we dont need.

 

[jay deuce]

Didn't Kerry just say he's not raising taxes the other night?

Bush is a fucking mental midget. How do you feel voting for a motherfucker that struggles with the english laungage?

People are dying due to this administrations greed and ignorance. It sickens me to think they are probably going to be in for four more years. World War 3 might as well get started now.

 

[nefar559]

Bush has the most diverse administration ever! Bush's nephew is half mexican. Bush's little brother Jeb Bush governor of Florida, married a mexican lady and they have a son together and he might run for president in the future. Is this all you got are lies and conspiracies. Thats real great. I've already heard all this bullshit a thousand times. Kerry is only looking out for himself he is going to tax us all. He plans on spending 2 trillion dollars. He voted to raise taxes 98 times in the Senate. Check his records. John Kerrys Senate records don't lie. We're all going to be highly taxed. He's thinking of getting a stronger coalition. Only way if he can do that is if he is going to give them a paycheck. He will put 1,000s of extra cops, build new police stations, more equipment, higher technologies, and more advanced police vehicles on the streets and in the air that we dont need.

read some more sources

"The expansive agenda President Bush laid out at the Republican National Convention was missing a price tag, but administration figures show the total is likely to be well in excess of $3 trillion over a decade."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18876-2004Sep13.html?nav=rss_topnews

 

[Humboldt High]

Want to talk about lies, Kerry/Edwards lies they say that we're 90% of the casualties on the coalition side when infact the new Iraqi gov. has taken 50% of all total casualties on the coalition side. Another lie about getting more countries involved in the war in Iraq. France and Germany both said that they will not help us if kerry is elected or not. And why would they anyway according to kerry/edwards its a wrong war to begin with, so why would they help?

iraq is not part of the coalition. we have taken 90% of the coalition casualities. try to do some of ur own thinking.
great iraqies are dying by the hand full and how does that help yor position? you support the idiots that got us in this mess and are costing the american people all the $$$ and lives.
sad to see some one so confused and impressed with rhetoric and lies.

 

[WestRumble]

@humboldt, are you one of those guys who think we're losing the war because one or two land mines go off? And what do you call the Iraqi soliders in with the US soldiers?

the way i see it is the real idiot would let their guards down. the real idiot votes for and against the same issue. the democrats got the worst candidate possible as far as Senate records goes and on defense levels. i think kerry is too confused on the most important issues to be prez. democrats shouldve got zell miller in there. Kerry is one of the idiots who voted to get us into this mess also.

 

[Humboldt High]

just like ur favorite politicians. skirt the issue, and avoid acknowleggement of being wrong.
look at what this president is teaching people soon kids that get an F on their test will demand passing grades for sticking to poor logic.

in direct response 2 ur questions:
there are no iraq soldiers their army was dismantled buy BUSH. wake the fucc up, please. they are poorly trained police.

one or 2 mines, try several daily. are you one of those guys who will never think for themselves?
Let their gaurd down, u mean like neglecting to focus on bin laden?
remember bush wanted to lessen combat pay and benefits. sent troops out without the proper body armor and hum-v armor. and declared the war over. NOW THERE IS A RECORD TO STAND BY. wtf. get a clue.

 

[naner12]

the way i see it is the real idiot would let their guards down. the real idiot votes for and against the same issue. the democrats got the worst candidate possible as far as Senate records goes and on defense levels. i think kerry is too confused on the most important issues to be prez. democrats shouldve got zell miller in there. Kerry is one of the idiots who voted to get us into this mess also.

the real idiot is a man that can't admit what he's done wrong. Kerry was for Iraq and has now changed his position because he saw, like everybody else, how fucking retarded this war has turned out to be. the real idiot is our president who will kill thousands of innocent people before admitting that he made a fucking mistake.

 

[jay deuce]

democrats shouldve got zell miller in there.

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Now I know you are fuckin cracked out. Zell Miller HAHAHA the ex-KKK member biggest racist on the planet, yea lets throw him in office. Zell Miller is nothing more than a registered democrat he is no where near part of the party.

 

[WestRumble]

any democrat wouldve been better than a traitor ass fuckin ex-hippie coward sorry son of a bitch. dean for example he was the anti war candidate so kerry adopted deans view. what a flip-flop. yall want someone in the white house who cant make up their mind? oh about bush and iraq, try and convince that saddam was a good enough guy to let stay in power. everyone thought he had WMDs even kerry b/c he used them in the past. still with or without WMDs it dont matter theres other issues than just that. wtf get a clue. we're barely losing over 1 soldier over in Iraq. you think thats a loss? or that we're losing? kerry thinks so. youre a fucking dumb truck if you think that. damn humbodlt youre reporting more land mines than the press.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

any democrat wouldve been better than a traitor ass fuckin ex-hippie coward sorry son of a bitch. dean for example he was the anti war candidate so kerry adopted deans view. what a flip-flop. yall want someone in the white house who cant make up their mind? oh about bush and iraq, try and convince that saddam was a good enough guy to let stay in power. everyone thought he had WMDs even kerry b/c he used them in the past. still with or without WMDs it dont matter theres other issues than just that. wtf get a clue. we're barely losing over 1 soldier over in Iraq. you think thats a loss? or that we're losing? kerry thinks so. youre a fucking dumb truck if you think that. damn humbodlt youre reporting more land mines than the press.

Hmmmm...over 1000 amerikan deaths in a war that was declared a victory over a year ago...I'd say things are not going as planned...BTW Saddam was a good enough guy for the US to do business with during the Iraq-Iran war...He and Rumsfeld were good buddies.

 

[WestRumble]

Hmmmm...over 1000 amerikan deaths in a war that was declared a victory over a year ago...I'd say things are not going as planned...BTW Saddam was a good enough guy for the US to do business with during the Iraq-Iran war...He and Rumsfeld were good buddies.

Iran was the bigger nation, bullying Iraq at that time in history. Iran wouldve been a bigger threat if we didnt help Iraq back then, again most were for it not just rumsfeld lol.

 

[L Mac-a-docious]

Iran was the bigger nation, bullying Iraq at that time in history. Iran wouldve been a bigger threat if we didnt help Iraq back then, again most were for it not just rumsfeld lol.

Oh...I'm sorry, did I forget to mention that the US also sent aid to Iran during the same time period...just something to ponder about your spreaders of peace, who stick up for the little guys.

 

[WestRumble]

Oh...I'm sorry, did I forget to mention that the US also sent aid to Iran during the same time period...just something to ponder about your spreaders of peace, who stick up for the little guys.

L Mac sounds like youre still living pre-9/11. apparently you dont understand the threat of terrorism.

 

[naner12]

L Mac sounds like youre still living pre-9/11. apparently you dont understand the threat of terrorism.

exactly how long did it take you to be brain washed? we're winning the war in Iraq? we don't even have control of every city in Iraq. 1,000 Americans died and who knows how many INNOCENT Iraqis died. i'm really glad to be from "the land of the misguided and the home of the slaves".

 

[WestRumble]

Hmmmm...over 1000 amerikan deaths in a war that was declared a victory over a year ago...I'd say things are not going as planned...BTW Saddam was a good enough guy for the US to do business with during the Iraq-Iran ...He and Rumsfeld were good buddies.

I bet Saddam fuckin loves Rumsfeld now. LMFAO!!!!

 

[WestRumble]

exactly how long did it take you to be brain washed? we're winning the war in Iraq? we don't even have control of every city in Iraq. 1,000 Americans died and who knows how many INNOCENT Iraqis died. i'm really glad to be from "the land of the misguided and the home of the slaves".

Sounds like youre brain washed by the liberal media.