Again I will ask you WHY do these people feel this way? Who are these people and do they have ANY links to american government and companies? If not do they have ANY links to European companies? Who are the parties involved in financing them and do they have influence in nato/u.n, CFR or TLC?
Arab nations are not involved in the TLC, and aside from a few correspondents on the ground, contribute little to the CFR. These are not Coca-Cola and Johnson and Johnson agents. They are representative of much of the public sentiment in Arab communities.
Read the fatwas of Muslim priests and clerics - Sunni and Shiia, left-wing, moderate, and conservative, at the start of Iraq War 2. They all call for a defensive jihad against the US-led invaders. Bin Laden has been claiming this point since 1996. Ayatollah Khomeini fomented it in 1980.
1. How do YOU know that when Mohammed was on his death bed he called the Jews "infidels that have no business in the holy land"?
2. Were Yasser Arafat, Moammar Qadafi, and Hafaz al Assad, utilized like Bin Laden and Hussein? Were they FUNDED like Bin Laden and Hussein? Did they have major BUSINESS investments/ventures with the u.s. like Bin Laden and Hussein?
If you answer NO to the above questions, but still believe these men scored high in a poll (popularity contest of no relevence)and received endorsement from arabs because of their "anti-american" views you are insane.
Are you suggesting, then, that even Arab popular media is run by the US Government? How long has this been going on for? Does the US pay the clerics who advocate nuclear war against it? Al-Jazira? Al-Ansar? If your answers are YES to all these questions, you are equally insane.
US ineptitude in Middle Eastern public relations policy alone attests to the fact that our elected officials are far too ignorant on the Middle East to implement any sort of "counter-counter-counter US" media monopoly in order to influence Arab public opinion.
Excuse me, but the poll is not exclusive to arabs. Why are you showing me this? Do you believe the majority of people who voted in those polls are arabs? If so can you provide the demographic? Al Jazeera has over 50 million viewers and you can't even begin to tell me where these people are located. Not only that, but when non-arab governments admit to planting stories in arab media it kinda causes you to think:
You are right I am going to claim you know nothing of the real story. If you had mentioned the deal between Prince Turki al-Faisal and Osama or talked about Sheikh Abdullah Azzam and what Osama learned from him I would not claim that you know nothing of the real story. If you were to mention Arbusto or Carlyle I wouldn't be ready to google your "common knowledge" and laugh at you for cutting and pasting wikipedia scraps.
Arbusto was a drop in the bucket. A whopping total of 50,000 dollars of bin Laden money was invested in Texas Oil. Osama bin Laden himself was worth 9 million dollars (conservative estimate) in 1982, at the time of Arbusto's beginning. Pointing to a 50k venture capital investment as proof of something when the bin Laden family has an investment portfolio of potentially billions (including margin and leverage buying) seems quite hopeful, actually.
The Carlyle group is actually a pretty well-known story. They're a giant group of war profiteers, largely from the US and foreign governments who use their contacts to speculate on wars and the defense industry. Some say that the Carlyle group starts wars. How one could view the Carlyle group is a sort of chicken-egg conundrum; Are wars started to benefit the Carlyle group, or does the Carlyle group benefit from wars? It's a matter of perspective. It's something that could be viewed from either lens.
The bin Laden - Carlyle connection is minimal. The bin Laden family is a huge investment entity. In addition, after 9/11, the bin Laden family was bought out from their stake in Carlyle. When you talk about international finance, there are hundreds of millions of dollars necessary to even get your foot in the door. It's a small world at that point. The significance of Arbusto and Carlyle in terms of September 11th is simply reactionary finger-pointing because of an infamous last name.
When you talk about people with billions to invest, they probably don't even know where 50k is going. In addition, the bin Laden stake in Carlyle was sold after September 11th, before they could even profit from Afghanistan and Iraq.
I didn't mention the Carlyle group because of a lack of significance to the dicussion.
What you just listed can be applicable to Jesus, John the Baptist or Elijah. Do you see "christians" or "jews" blowing shit up? No, so stop trying to make it seem as if this Osama Bin Laden character is some prophet of doom or hero with a large following of members and radicals crashing planes into buildings and making video tapes. You will obviously reply with something along the lines of "well they are muslims they are not jews and christians". SAVE IT!