Single Greatest Problem / Threat to our Society
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Get real....
Please elaborate and tell us of this good research.
I can EASILY tie those groups to EVERY option you have presented in your precious poll.
1. Keep my name off your fingers faggot.
2. I have EXPLAINED this shit IN DETAIL. If you missed out on it OH WELL! I am not going to sit and explain this shit to anyone anymore.
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Online research? Have you ever TALKED to anyone via phone, seminar Q&A, personal email etc? Have you ever written a texx marrs or alex jones and discussed FACTS (not opinions and theories?), have you EVER read CREDIBLE books dedicated to the CFR, TLC etc and would you know feasibility if it took a shit in your mouth?
How does one explain the Bush familiy supporting nazi germany (fact) and the culture of Anti-semetism and racial superiority? Btw the "culture" of anti american was present in the world BEFORE Osama Bin Laden. I also believe you are using the word "jihad" out of context. Where are you reading that Osama is an american government agent? Doing business with america? That has been proven. Trained/recieved funding from america? Again this has been proven. American agent (whatever that means) I won't say no,but I would not be shocked if he were.
I was going to actually answer this and explain it but since you like to do net research I will spin this and answer a question with several questions.
1. What are these myriad of cultural references you speak of?
2. Who is Osama Bin Laden? What is his religion, dogma/doctrine and who did he learn it from? Who are Osama Bin Ladens supporters? What were his business relations with the american government?
3. What is Al-qaeda? Who are the members of Al-qaeda? What does Al-qaeda believe? Who funds AL-qaeda?
4. Who are the Pan-arabist groups supporting the downfall of Israel and America and why do they call for it? Is this view held by the majority of arab citizens?
Hegelian Dialectic. Now ask yourself a question. Does the United States government care about the people of the united states? NO. Do the leaders and shareholders of the united states government hold a docrtine that promotes superiority and condones control? Yes.
How is american imperialist policy enforced? Is it far fetched to say america creates tension in the regions for THIS purpose?
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On a side note I need to address an issue and I will do it here. I would never put you on blast like that and say "well if you ask white devil who claimed to be an athiest and started calling on the lord when he was dying of cancer..."
Your tactic and listing my name the way you did was 100% out of line and, any respect I may have had for you has been thrown out the window and run over my big rigs.
Good day.
Please elaborate and tell us of this good research.
I can EASILY tie those groups to EVERY option you have presented in your precious poll.
1. Keep my name off your fingers faggot.
2. I have EXPLAINED this shit IN DETAIL. If you missed out on it OH WELL! I am not going to sit and explain this shit to anyone anymore.
.
Online research? Have you ever TALKED to anyone via phone, seminar Q&A, personal email etc? Have you ever written a texx marrs or alex jones and discussed FACTS (not opinions and theories?), have you EVER read CREDIBLE books dedicated to the CFR, TLC etc and would you know feasibility if it took a shit in your mouth?
How does one explain the Bush familiy supporting nazi germany (fact) and the culture of Anti-semetism and racial superiority? Btw the "culture" of anti american was present in the world BEFORE Osama Bin Laden. I also believe you are using the word "jihad" out of context. Where are you reading that Osama is an american government agent? Doing business with america? That has been proven. Trained/recieved funding from america? Again this has been proven. American agent (whatever that means) I won't say no,but I would not be shocked if he were.
I was going to actually answer this and explain it but since you like to do net research I will spin this and answer a question with several questions.
1. What are these myriad of cultural references you speak of?
2. Who is Osama Bin Laden? What is his religion, dogma/doctrine and who did he learn it from? Who are Osama Bin Ladens supporters? What were his business relations with the american government?
3. What is Al-qaeda? Who are the members of Al-qaeda? What does Al-qaeda believe? Who funds AL-qaeda?
4. Who are the Pan-arabist groups supporting the downfall of Israel and America and why do they call for it? Is this view held by the majority of arab citizens?
Hegelian Dialectic. Now ask yourself a question. Does the United States government care about the people of the united states? NO. Do the leaders and shareholders of the united states government hold a docrtine that promotes superiority and condones control? Yes.
How is american imperialist policy enforced? Is it far fetched to say america creates tension in the regions for THIS purpose?
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On a side note I need to address an issue and I will do it here. I would never put you on blast like that and say "well if you ask white devil who claimed to be an athiest and started calling on the lord when he was dying of cancer..."
Your tactic and listing my name the way you did was 100% out of line and, any respect I may have had for you has been thrown out the window and run over my big rigs.
Good day.
Bitch get real............
In your eyes.
And I don't give a fuck either.
I took it for what it is was and couldn't care less about how you and Kryptic took it. The shit was directed at me, and I took it how I wanted to take it. I have been on this board long enough to know when people are trying to do underhanded shit and thats what he did. So fuck it gloves off. Not only that, but the shit he is saying is 100% WRONG! Was he here when I first came here and CONSTANTLY explained shit in fine detail? NO! If his ass missed out, I couldn't care less, but don't go letting my name slide off your crippled fingers in a negative way if you want ME to play "fair." Now if I all of a sudden bust in a thread, make a post about you, or mention something by all means take your best shots. If I come sideways at you by all means try to take me out. I have no problem with that, but don't go throwing stones and if you don't want to get hit with boulders. A cheap shot is a cheap shot regardless of it being personal or political.
The second thing is this is a person who I had respect for, but this is NOT the first time he has done this. If I keep overlooking it he will continue to do it so fuck it.
AS far as YOU go Kryptic who the hell are you and what are YOU trying to prove by asking me what I am trying to prove?
In your eyes.
And I don't give a fuck either.
I took it for what it is was and couldn't care less about how you and Kryptic took it. The shit was directed at me, and I took it how I wanted to take it. I have been on this board long enough to know when people are trying to do underhanded shit and thats what he did. So fuck it gloves off. Not only that, but the shit he is saying is 100% WRONG! Was he here when I first came here and CONSTANTLY explained shit in fine detail? NO! If his ass missed out, I couldn't care less, but don't go letting my name slide off your crippled fingers in a negative way if you want ME to play "fair." Now if I all of a sudden bust in a thread, make a post about you, or mention something by all means take your best shots. If I come sideways at you by all means try to take me out. I have no problem with that, but don't go throwing stones and if you don't want to get hit with boulders. A cheap shot is a cheap shot regardless of it being personal or political.
The second thing is this is a person who I had respect for, but this is NOT the first time he has done this. If I keep overlooking it he will continue to do it so fuck it.
AS far as YOU go Kryptic who the hell are you and what are YOU trying to prove by asking me what I am trying to prove?
I read something called "Inside the TLC" in the late 90's. I read two books on the Illuminati, and I read Dan Smoot's "The Invisible Government". I'm not sure whether they were tinfoil-hat approved or not, but they essentially hit on many of the same points. A common thread among those who talk about the Antichrist, one world governments, occult societies, etc. is a fear of liberal, government-mandated social reforms, and belief in a stormtropper-like gestapo government, silencing naysayers with assassinations and disappearances. A common theme also is that these organizations will one day coalesce into a real, conspicuous, and powerful presence dominating the world.
Many of these "globalist" theorists are heavy opponents of gun control, since one day your own private arsenal may be needed to repel the government from taking your land and money. One very famous man who brought many of these theories public was John Birch, a rabid anti-Communist, anti-Heathen, anti-Liberal, anti-Collectivist ultraconservative. According to your viewpoint, John Birch could also be a racist and a facist. His followers were among the forerunners of codification of the TLC, Illuminati, and CFR conspiracy theories.
Most of these paint intranational organizations such as the CFR, TLFC, NAFTA, FTAA, and the UN as the tools of the Rothschild, Rockefeller families, as well as greedy international bankers such as the Bildeburg family, and also occultist Freemasons dedicated to Communist world domination.
This poll was in fact quite precious. The tears I cried upon its completion were caught by me and sealed in an airtight plastic case - forever monuments to the emotional joy and sense of completion that this poll has brought into my life.
So newcomers to this board are supposed to sift through the archives of your post, deciphering of these organizations inbetween "Saddam is a hero", "Black america needs to be purged by God", "Osama loves America", etc.?
If I was the foremost poster of a theory or viewpoint on this board, I would be ready to at least pass out a link. I wouldn't react with hypersensitivity and hurt feelings when my name got mentioned alongside it.
Have you attended conferences on Zionism, pan-Arabism, the culture of defensive jihad, and the feasibility of exported democracy? If not, would you be ineligible to speak on the subject?
Is a lack of information on a topic an immediate disqualifier in a discussion? I highly doubt that most of us have a defensible, concrete amount of knowledge on 90 percent of the topics we discuss here.
A large proportion of Americans, including the Birchers that were the most famous people to give most of your conspiracies widespread exposure, supported Nazi Germany before and some after World War 2. Hollywood, actually, was a huge supporter of the Nazis. Most people even turned their heads to the human rights abuses in Germany until they could not do so any longer. Bush and friends (Bu$hco) are now very big supporters of Israel. If the balance of power swings to the far left in American politics, in fact, Israel may lose its only substantiative ally in the world.
Nazi authoritarianism in the form of nationalism was soaked up and very heavily accepted in the Middle East. Anti-Semitism was in fact exported by the Nazis with great success worldwide. And as far as the culture of anti-Semitism, it is now being heavily touted among those who are the greatest enemies of America, and Bush the Hitler supporter. (Iran, Venezuela, many Middle Eastern countries) In fact, communists and believers in "one world governments" (UN, EU) are quite often very opposed to the "realist" interests of both the USA and Israel.
My understanding of jihad is in no way lacking. It refers to either a spiritual or physical struggle against the internal or external forces that hinder one's ability to think, worship, or declare the law of Islam. In addition to jihad of the sword, there is jihad of the hands (giving to Islamic charities), jihad of the mind (personal self-advancement), and ijhad of the heart (good works).
And the movement of anti-Americanism has always and will likely always exist among the Middle East. Usama bin Ladin became the messenger and the harbinger of that culture, a figurehead of the brewing storm of Arab public opinion.
Regular columns both on Osama bin Laden and supporting Osama bin Laden have appeared in too many Arabic publications (books, TV, internet) to list. (Waaqiah.com, Al-Jazirah, Al-Ansar, Takbeer, Markaz al-Dawa, Al-Neda, Qoqaz, .arabforum.net, Islamonline.net, the praises of Mullahs, clerics, Sheiks, and many juridical Islamic institutions)
There is a word in Arabic for a man who approaches the ideals of the prophet (Mohammed) whom many liken Osama to. His denial of his riches, his living of a rugged life in caves and on the run, and engaged in jihad with infidels, echoes (in many Muslim minds) the life and the ideals of the prophet.
Usama is the son of Muhammed Awed bin Ladin, a man with close ties to the Saudi royal family, who in turn have close ties to Bu$hco. Osama is a Sunni muslim, as are many in Saudi Arabia. Osama's influences have come mainly from those called the Wahhabi sect - a very strict and conservative form of Islam, etc.
His business ties with the US were likely to be large and many, as is the case with anyone tied to the House of Saud.
He was supported by the US in the fight against the Soviets, and gained favor among the Afghani mujahideen. He declared jihad on Saddam Hussein when he invaded Kuwait, but instead the US came in, staying in Saudi Arabia upon the completion of the war. This angered Usama and led to all out hostilities with the Saudi royal family, at which point he fled to Sudan and began building up Al-Qaeda, etc.
2a. However, without becoming lengthy, this is the "common knowledge" regarding Osama. I have a feeling that you will invalidate all of this, claiming I know nothing of the real story, etc. etc.
Many of these "globalist" theorists are heavy opponents of gun control, since one day your own private arsenal may be needed to repel the government from taking your land and money. One very famous man who brought many of these theories public was John Birch, a rabid anti-Communist, anti-Heathen, anti-Liberal, anti-Collectivist ultraconservative. According to your viewpoint, John Birch could also be a racist and a facist. His followers were among the forerunners of codification of the TLC, Illuminati, and CFR conspiracy theories.
Most of these paint intranational organizations such as the CFR, TLFC, NAFTA, FTAA, and the UN as the tools of the Rothschild, Rockefeller families, as well as greedy international bankers such as the Bildeburg family, and also occultist Freemasons dedicated to Communist world domination.
This poll was in fact quite precious. The tears I cried upon its completion were caught by me and sealed in an airtight plastic case - forever monuments to the emotional joy and sense of completion that this poll has brought into my life.
So newcomers to this board are supposed to sift through the archives of your post, deciphering of these organizations inbetween "Saddam is a hero", "Black america needs to be purged by God", "Osama loves America", etc.?
If I was the foremost poster of a theory or viewpoint on this board, I would be ready to at least pass out a link. I wouldn't react with hypersensitivity and hurt feelings when my name got mentioned alongside it.
Have you attended conferences on Zionism, pan-Arabism, the culture of defensive jihad, and the feasibility of exported democracy? If not, would you be ineligible to speak on the subject?
Is a lack of information on a topic an immediate disqualifier in a discussion? I highly doubt that most of us have a defensible, concrete amount of knowledge on 90 percent of the topics we discuss here.
A large proportion of Americans, including the Birchers that were the most famous people to give most of your conspiracies widespread exposure, supported Nazi Germany before and some after World War 2. Hollywood, actually, was a huge supporter of the Nazis. Most people even turned their heads to the human rights abuses in Germany until they could not do so any longer. Bush and friends (Bu$hco) are now very big supporters of Israel. If the balance of power swings to the far left in American politics, in fact, Israel may lose its only substantiative ally in the world.
Nazi authoritarianism in the form of nationalism was soaked up and very heavily accepted in the Middle East. Anti-Semitism was in fact exported by the Nazis with great success worldwide. And as far as the culture of anti-Semitism, it is now being heavily touted among those who are the greatest enemies of America, and Bush the Hitler supporter. (Iran, Venezuela, many Middle Eastern countries) In fact, communists and believers in "one world governments" (UN, EU) are quite often very opposed to the "realist" interests of both the USA and Israel.
My understanding of jihad is in no way lacking. It refers to either a spiritual or physical struggle against the internal or external forces that hinder one's ability to think, worship, or declare the law of Islam. In addition to jihad of the sword, there is jihad of the hands (giving to Islamic charities), jihad of the mind (personal self-advancement), and ijhad of the heart (good works).
And the movement of anti-Americanism has always and will likely always exist among the Middle East. Usama bin Ladin became the messenger and the harbinger of that culture, a figurehead of the brewing storm of Arab public opinion.
Regular columns both on Osama bin Laden and supporting Osama bin Laden have appeared in too many Arabic publications (books, TV, internet) to list. (Waaqiah.com, Al-Jazirah, Al-Ansar, Takbeer, Markaz al-Dawa, Al-Neda, Qoqaz, .arabforum.net, Islamonline.net, the praises of Mullahs, clerics, Sheiks, and many juridical Islamic institutions)
There is a word in Arabic for a man who approaches the ideals of the prophet (Mohammed) whom many liken Osama to. His denial of his riches, his living of a rugged life in caves and on the run, and engaged in jihad with infidels, echoes (in many Muslim minds) the life and the ideals of the prophet.
Usama is the son of Muhammed Awed bin Ladin, a man with close ties to the Saudi royal family, who in turn have close ties to Bu$hco. Osama is a Sunni muslim, as are many in Saudi Arabia. Osama's influences have come mainly from those called the Wahhabi sect - a very strict and conservative form of Islam, etc.
His business ties with the US were likely to be large and many, as is the case with anyone tied to the House of Saud.
He was supported by the US in the fight against the Soviets, and gained favor among the Afghani mujahideen. He declared jihad on Saddam Hussein when he invaded Kuwait, but instead the US came in, staying in Saudi Arabia upon the completion of the war. This angered Usama and led to all out hostilities with the Saudi royal family, at which point he fled to Sudan and began building up Al-Qaeda, etc.
2a. However, without becoming lengthy, this is the "common knowledge" regarding Osama. I have a feeling that you will invalidate all of this, claiming I know nothing of the real story, etc. etc.
Usually through diplomatic or economic coercion. In some cases, at the end of a bayonet. However, I don't believe our leaders have a serious desire to maim and kill. That is the end result of their stupidity and botched policies, but I don't believe it is a primary motivator. The Iraq war was an example of shoddy diplomatic opportunism, and a plan that had existed before 9/11 came about. 9/11 was definitely the precipitator, but I believe 9/11 itself happened because of Bu$hco stupidity.
You are the main proponent on these boards of the global elite theories of the TLC, World Bank, etc. Thus, you are the main representative by proxy. When asked about the topic, you typically reply with veiled elitism - "Well, you just ain't knowin, cause you ain't knowin, and I am" or "You're a tool and a robot, and will remain that way".
You are the main proponent on these boards of the global elite theories of the TLC, World Bank, etc. Thus, you are the main representative by proxy. When asked about the topic, you typically reply with veiled elitism - "Well, you just ain't knowin, cause you ain't knowin, and I am" or "You're a tool and a robot, and will remain that way".
No dough! Part 1
I will address this in reverse:
I have STOPPED giving in-depth replies. When I first came here I saw NO person mentioning what I was mentioning and I was very SPECIFIC as to who were the players and what was going on. Before the siccness suffered the great crash, I made MANY threads and posts strictly dedicated to the subject. After the siccness recovered from the crash I picked it back up and dedicated more threads and posts to the subject. Time passed the majority did not heed what they were told so I left it alone. When I started to pick it back up I was ASKED to leave it alone, and I have not looked back since.
Thats a damn lie just like you having cancer. Through out the course of my stay here I have kept the same theme. RESEARCH IT FOR YOURSELF, VALIDATE IT, and APPLY WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED.
Tool is probably the gayest insult invented I would never use that. Sheeple, useless eater, lemming? Yes. Tool? NO. Those who get those type of responses are the people who have NO true interest in the subject matter anyway.
Now is the time to hurl insults because you have a different opinion. Can you HONESTLY look at what you just posted, look at yourself in the mirror, and not want to slice your wrists because of your stupidity? You don't believe the american government has a serious desire to maim and kill? Tell that to the women and children who have died as a result of american invasion. If american leaders had no serious desire to maim and kill why are they in Iraq using all sorts of dangerous weapons and changing the chemicals of certain weapons so they don't "break the rules?"
So what does the american government have a desire to do? Provide a basic infrastructure to Iraq, bring liberty and hold tea parties? :dead:
What is diplomatic and economic coercion? Implementing sanctions that destroy basic infrastructures? Wait I get it now! It is having the CFR, TLC and WORLD BANK, freeze accounts, re-route dollars, kill economies and help implement a policy rooted in doctrines of superiority!
If the war on Iraq was a plan that existed before 9/11 came about, how can you make the claim that american leaders do not have a serious desire to maim and kill?
9-11 did not happen because of Buscho stupidity. 9-11 happened because Bushco MADE it happen. Here is the difference between you and I, and I want this to stick in your head.
You believe 19 men hi-jacked four planes at different locations, crashed them into various targets and created mass murder because they were upset by american policy. You believe 9-11 could have been prevented, but due to a shabby intelligence network the Bush administration slipped up. You believe this because you are a simple minded and conditioned american who believes the american government would never result to murder and deception.
I believe in the FACTS and what I posted here seven days BEFORE 9-11, the day OF 9-11 and one day AFTER 9-11. The facts are Hegelian Dialectic and what occured as a result of planes and buildings being destroyed. Through 9-11 american government was able to restrict the freedoms of the american people through various laws and regulations. Through 9-11 america was able to paint a picture of the "bad guy" and create anti-arab rhetoric that would later give them the green light to invade a country without the majority of people questioning its validity.
No, you DON'T agree because you have NO idea about who these people are and how they operate. What I have been SHOWN is only a drop in the bucket, and let me tell you it is enough to make you loose your sanity and enter a state of TOTAL depression if you are not well grounded.
When private parties have a MONOPOLY over a currency what is it? When the rich are in positions of influence and carry out agendas that have been mapped out for CENTURIES what is it?
Again I will ask you WHY do these people feel this way? Who are these people and do they have ANY links to american government and companies? If not do they have ANY links to European companies? Who are the parties involved in financing them and do they have influence in nato/u.n, CFR or TLC?
1. How do YOU know that when Mohammed was on his death bed he called the Jews "infidels that have no business in the holy land"?
2. Were Yasser Arafat, Moammar Qadafi, and Hafaz al Assad, utilized like Bin Laden and Hussein? Were they FUNDED like Bin Laden and Hussein? Did they have major BUSINESS investments/ventures with the u.s. like Bin Laden and Hussein?
If you answer NO to the above questions, but still believe these men scored high in a poll (popularity contest of no relevence)and received endorsement from arabs because of their "anti-american" views you are insane.
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Excuse me, but the poll is not exclusive to arabs. Why are you showing me this? Do you believe the majority of people who voted in those polls are arabs? If so can you provide the demographic? Al Jazeera has over 50 million viewers and you can't even begin to tell me where these people are located. Not only that, but when non-arab governments admit to planting stories in arab media it kinda causes you to think:
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=10059
You are right I am going to claim you know nothing of the real story. If you had mentioned the deal between Prince Turki al-Faisal and Osama or talked about Sheikh Abdullah Azzam and what Osama learned from him I would not claim that you know nothing of the real story. If you were to mention Arbusto or Carlyle I wouldn't be ready to google your "common knowledge" and laugh at you for cutting and pasting wikipedia scraps.
Now follow the money trail and look at the demographics.
What you just listed can be applicable to Jesus, John the Baptist or Elijah. Do you see "christians" or "jews" blowing shit up? No, so stop trying to make it seem as if this Osama Bin Laden character is some prophet of doom or hero with a large following of members and radicals crashing planes into buildings and making video tapes. You will obviously reply with something along the lines of "well they are muslims they are not jews and christians". SAVE IT!
I will address this in reverse:
I have STOPPED giving in-depth replies. When I first came here I saw NO person mentioning what I was mentioning and I was very SPECIFIC as to who were the players and what was going on. Before the siccness suffered the great crash, I made MANY threads and posts strictly dedicated to the subject. After the siccness recovered from the crash I picked it back up and dedicated more threads and posts to the subject. Time passed the majority did not heed what they were told so I left it alone. When I started to pick it back up I was ASKED to leave it alone, and I have not looked back since.
Thats a damn lie just like you having cancer. Through out the course of my stay here I have kept the same theme. RESEARCH IT FOR YOURSELF, VALIDATE IT, and APPLY WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED.
Tool is probably the gayest insult invented I would never use that. Sheeple, useless eater, lemming? Yes. Tool? NO. Those who get those type of responses are the people who have NO true interest in the subject matter anyway.
Now is the time to hurl insults because you have a different opinion. Can you HONESTLY look at what you just posted, look at yourself in the mirror, and not want to slice your wrists because of your stupidity? You don't believe the american government has a serious desire to maim and kill? Tell that to the women and children who have died as a result of american invasion. If american leaders had no serious desire to maim and kill why are they in Iraq using all sorts of dangerous weapons and changing the chemicals of certain weapons so they don't "break the rules?"
So what does the american government have a desire to do? Provide a basic infrastructure to Iraq, bring liberty and hold tea parties? :dead:
What is diplomatic and economic coercion? Implementing sanctions that destroy basic infrastructures? Wait I get it now! It is having the CFR, TLC and WORLD BANK, freeze accounts, re-route dollars, kill economies and help implement a policy rooted in doctrines of superiority!
If the war on Iraq was a plan that existed before 9/11 came about, how can you make the claim that american leaders do not have a serious desire to maim and kill?
9-11 did not happen because of Buscho stupidity. 9-11 happened because Bushco MADE it happen. Here is the difference between you and I, and I want this to stick in your head.
You believe 19 men hi-jacked four planes at different locations, crashed them into various targets and created mass murder because they were upset by american policy. You believe 9-11 could have been prevented, but due to a shabby intelligence network the Bush administration slipped up. You believe this because you are a simple minded and conditioned american who believes the american government would never result to murder and deception.
I believe in the FACTS and what I posted here seven days BEFORE 9-11, the day OF 9-11 and one day AFTER 9-11. The facts are Hegelian Dialectic and what occured as a result of planes and buildings being destroyed. Through 9-11 american government was able to restrict the freedoms of the american people through various laws and regulations. Through 9-11 america was able to paint a picture of the "bad guy" and create anti-arab rhetoric that would later give them the green light to invade a country without the majority of people questioning its validity.
No, you DON'T agree because you have NO idea about who these people are and how they operate. What I have been SHOWN is only a drop in the bucket, and let me tell you it is enough to make you loose your sanity and enter a state of TOTAL depression if you are not well grounded.
When private parties have a MONOPOLY over a currency what is it? When the rich are in positions of influence and carry out agendas that have been mapped out for CENTURIES what is it?
Again I will ask you WHY do these people feel this way? Who are these people and do they have ANY links to american government and companies? If not do they have ANY links to European companies? Who are the parties involved in financing them and do they have influence in nato/u.n, CFR or TLC?
1. How do YOU know that when Mohammed was on his death bed he called the Jews "infidels that have no business in the holy land"?
2. Were Yasser Arafat, Moammar Qadafi, and Hafaz al Assad, utilized like Bin Laden and Hussein? Were they FUNDED like Bin Laden and Hussein? Did they have major BUSINESS investments/ventures with the u.s. like Bin Laden and Hussein?
If you answer NO to the above questions, but still believe these men scored high in a poll (popularity contest of no relevence)and received endorsement from arabs because of their "anti-american" views you are insane.
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Excuse me, but the poll is not exclusive to arabs. Why are you showing me this? Do you believe the majority of people who voted in those polls are arabs? If so can you provide the demographic? Al Jazeera has over 50 million viewers and you can't even begin to tell me where these people are located. Not only that, but when non-arab governments admit to planting stories in arab media it kinda causes you to think:
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=10059
You are right I am going to claim you know nothing of the real story. If you had mentioned the deal between Prince Turki al-Faisal and Osama or talked about Sheikh Abdullah Azzam and what Osama learned from him I would not claim that you know nothing of the real story. If you were to mention Arbusto or Carlyle I wouldn't be ready to google your "common knowledge" and laugh at you for cutting and pasting wikipedia scraps.
Now follow the money trail and look at the demographics.
What you just listed can be applicable to Jesus, John the Baptist or Elijah. Do you see "christians" or "jews" blowing shit up? No, so stop trying to make it seem as if this Osama Bin Laden character is some prophet of doom or hero with a large following of members and radicals crashing planes into buildings and making video tapes. You will obviously reply with something along the lines of "well they are muslims they are not jews and christians". SAVE IT!
Much of what you listed is actually happening before your eyes only you turn away because you WANT to believe that the world is a good place and problems are minimal. In order to keep your current mentality and comfort zone you fight against the reality smacking you in the face, lean left or right (it doesn't matter) and pretend things are bad but could be worse. The reality is america IS facing economic collapse, Peak Oil IS a reality, america IS becoming a police state and people HAVE been silenced. The reality is the two people ran for president and BOTH were members of a society that has its origins in OCCULT BELIEFS/DOGMA. The reality is the people who make the descisions OWN the majority of the worlds finances, have monopolies over printing presses, sit on the high boards and have an inter-locking leadership. These are facts not theory.
Who are the "many globalist theorists" that you speak of? Does the constitution prohibit the right to arms? Who is to say the government WON'T attempt to take your land or pass laws that allow them to do so?
Follow the money trail and see if these theories remain that way. Good job on the Birch description.
According to my viewpoint? Which viewpoint? Racist? Possibly. Facist? Possibly, but how would my viewpoints presented here validate those beliefs?
BTW MANY people talked about "The Illuminati" (which does NOT exist any longer) BEFORE The Birch society. The truth about the CFR and TLC did start with the Birch Society.
1. No such family called "BILDERBERG" exists. Please RESEARCH what you are talking about before you continue to cut and paste from obscure sources. The Bilderbergers are a group of men. Elite men. Rich men. Men who OWN corporations and dictate policy.
2. The CFR, TLFC, NAFTA, FTAA, and the UN ARE tools of the Roths (who ARE international bankers) and the Rockerfeller families. How many Roths and Rocks have membership within these organizations or fund them? How many Roths or Rocks are board members of these organizations?
3. I will not go as far as to say they want communist world domination. World Domination? Yes. Occultist? Yes. These men endorse the teachings of Adam Weishaupt, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (The Theosophical Society) and Foster and Alice Bailey.
Gay.
Why not? Black america DOES need to be purged by God, Saddam IS a hero (just ask the iraqis) and Osama DOES love america. If you honestly believe I am going to change my CURRENT posting habits and type thesis statements or long threads like I did in the past you are WRONG. I am not posting for the NEWCOMMER. If a newcommer wants to take it a step further with me they can hit me on pm or email (like they CONSTANTLY DO) and hit me up. I am posting for MYSELF and the people who already have a perception of me (regardless if they agree with me or not.)
"Hi I am Heresy and like a loop I am going to keep on playing the same thing over and over"
Hell no.
I HAVE done that you idiot how many times do I have to type it? Do I have to type it in some other language? What YOU fail to grasp is those times are OVER. I am NOT posting links explaining the info and viewpoint anymore. It is FINISHED. When and if I make posts supporting the viewpoint (which I rarely do anymore) it will be understood by those who obviously KNOW my stance. New people...welll they willl just have to take it a step further or remain oblivious. I don't care either way.
You were a leading athiest and prayed for The Lord to have mercy on your soul when you were on your death bed. You have NO right telling ANYONE how or what they should post. :dead:
I sure have. Those for and against it and even mentioned it in the past. BTW I am against zionism.
Yep, and once again I spoke about it in the past. I went with the computer store owner I used to talk about. I also learned more about it from a REAL hebrew (not one of these faux-jews.)
The answer is the same as in previous posts.
Absolutely not, and no one has implied so. If I did I would not be up late replying to you. In fact I would not have replied to you at all. However, when you openly try to put me on blast (which is what you have constantly tried to do in the past) you WILL get called on your bullshit sooner or later and someone will question YOU and YOUR skepticism. I will take your inability to answer the questions as NO (across the board.)
This is highly irrelevant, and besides you how many people care? Spare me the "you must care you replied" retort.
You believe nationalism was accepted because of hatred for faux-jews. I believe nationalism was accepted out of necessity. Why are communists etc opposed to the "realist" interests of america and Israel? Where is your proof concerning Iran, Venezuela and many Middle Eastern countries?
It IS lacking because you do not LIVE it. Stop being the A.P.
Recyclus and regurgitating what you read on wikipedia. In your next reply you will most likely tell us you were a muslim and you have studied islam before you became an athiest.
Who the hell are you the ghost of Peter Jennings? You know what your problem is? You watch too much television. Bin Ladin did NOT become the messenger and the harbringer of that culture. The biased media force feeds this to you everyday. You are trying to establish a connection between Bin Ladin, but if your connection had any validity you would tell me about all of the anti-merican arabs in arab. You would also be able to tell me about multiple terrorist attacks commited by his group. You can't because they have never happened and will never happen. The Osama that YOU have grown to love (hate) is a creation of the american government.
Who are the "many globalist theorists" that you speak of? Does the constitution prohibit the right to arms? Who is to say the government WON'T attempt to take your land or pass laws that allow them to do so?
Follow the money trail and see if these theories remain that way. Good job on the Birch description.
According to my viewpoint? Which viewpoint? Racist? Possibly. Facist? Possibly, but how would my viewpoints presented here validate those beliefs?
BTW MANY people talked about "The Illuminati" (which does NOT exist any longer) BEFORE The Birch society. The truth about the CFR and TLC did start with the Birch Society.
1. No such family called "BILDERBERG" exists. Please RESEARCH what you are talking about before you continue to cut and paste from obscure sources. The Bilderbergers are a group of men. Elite men. Rich men. Men who OWN corporations and dictate policy.
2. The CFR, TLFC, NAFTA, FTAA, and the UN ARE tools of the Roths (who ARE international bankers) and the Rockerfeller families. How many Roths and Rocks have membership within these organizations or fund them? How many Roths or Rocks are board members of these organizations?
3. I will not go as far as to say they want communist world domination. World Domination? Yes. Occultist? Yes. These men endorse the teachings of Adam Weishaupt, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (The Theosophical Society) and Foster and Alice Bailey.
Gay.
Why not? Black america DOES need to be purged by God, Saddam IS a hero (just ask the iraqis) and Osama DOES love america. If you honestly believe I am going to change my CURRENT posting habits and type thesis statements or long threads like I did in the past you are WRONG. I am not posting for the NEWCOMMER. If a newcommer wants to take it a step further with me they can hit me on pm or email (like they CONSTANTLY DO) and hit me up. I am posting for MYSELF and the people who already have a perception of me (regardless if they agree with me or not.)
"Hi I am Heresy and like a loop I am going to keep on playing the same thing over and over"
Hell no.
I HAVE done that you idiot how many times do I have to type it? Do I have to type it in some other language? What YOU fail to grasp is those times are OVER. I am NOT posting links explaining the info and viewpoint anymore. It is FINISHED. When and if I make posts supporting the viewpoint (which I rarely do anymore) it will be understood by those who obviously KNOW my stance. New people...welll they willl just have to take it a step further or remain oblivious. I don't care either way.
You were a leading athiest and prayed for The Lord to have mercy on your soul when you were on your death bed. You have NO right telling ANYONE how or what they should post. :dead:
I sure have. Those for and against it and even mentioned it in the past. BTW I am against zionism.
Yep, and once again I spoke about it in the past. I went with the computer store owner I used to talk about. I also learned more about it from a REAL hebrew (not one of these faux-jews.)
The answer is the same as in previous posts.
Absolutely not, and no one has implied so. If I did I would not be up late replying to you. In fact I would not have replied to you at all. However, when you openly try to put me on blast (which is what you have constantly tried to do in the past) you WILL get called on your bullshit sooner or later and someone will question YOU and YOUR skepticism. I will take your inability to answer the questions as NO (across the board.)
This is highly irrelevant, and besides you how many people care? Spare me the "you must care you replied" retort.
You believe nationalism was accepted because of hatred for faux-jews. I believe nationalism was accepted out of necessity. Why are communists etc opposed to the "realist" interests of america and Israel? Where is your proof concerning Iran, Venezuela and many Middle Eastern countries?
It IS lacking because you do not LIVE it. Stop being the A.P.
Recyclus and regurgitating what you read on wikipedia. In your next reply you will most likely tell us you were a muslim and you have studied islam before you became an athiest.
Who the hell are you the ghost of Peter Jennings? You know what your problem is? You watch too much television. Bin Ladin did NOT become the messenger and the harbringer of that culture. The biased media force feeds this to you everyday. You are trying to establish a connection between Bin Ladin, but if your connection had any validity you would tell me about all of the anti-merican arabs in arab. You would also be able to tell me about multiple terrorist attacks commited by his group. You can't because they have never happened and will never happen. The Osama that YOU have grown to love (hate) is a creation of the american government.
Not very far in this conversation.
Not important to anyone on the siccness.
Nothing beyond the fact that what you said is unneccesary.
I don't remember seeing any of the threads you posted in the past on this subject. If you could give me one or two good resources/books to get started on this knowledge I would much appreciate it. Thanks.
Not important to anyone on the siccness.
Nothing beyond the fact that what you said is unneccesary.
I don't remember seeing any of the threads you posted in the past on this subject. If you could give me one or two good resources/books to get started on this knowledge I would much appreciate it. Thanks.
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Why not your captain powers haven't been activated yet?
or offline.
Unneccesary is people starving here in america while america spends billions on a manufactured war. Unneccesary is constantly taking cheap shots and constantly thinking you are going to get away with it. I only started to call him on his BS in this thread. What I said IS neccesary especially when I am defedning myself.
Whos fault is that? It is my fault that you don't remember seeing any threads related to the subject? I am sure their are MANY people who DO remember.
I wouldn't give you anything if MY life depended on it you sarcastic piece of shit. Who the hell are you? No one important right? Right. So why would I entertain your request? :dead:
Why not your captain powers haven't been activated yet?
or offline.
Unneccesary is people starving here in america while america spends billions on a manufactured war. Unneccesary is constantly taking cheap shots and constantly thinking you are going to get away with it. I only started to call him on his BS in this thread. What I said IS neccesary especially when I am defedning myself.
Whos fault is that? It is my fault that you don't remember seeing any threads related to the subject? I am sure their are MANY people who DO remember.
I wouldn't give you anything if MY life depended on it you sarcastic piece of shit. Who the hell are you? No one important right? Right. So why would I entertain your request? :dead:
Ok.
You are diggin from the bucket right here. You do not know me.
Tool as in puppet. And as far as people with no real interest, you would not be concerned with reading a Mclean dissection on the stupidity of "liberals". We all are here either to gain knowledge, promote discussion, or educate. People who were not here for the "golden years" simply see what they see and judge it.
There is a genuine belief among Neocons that you have to "break eggs to make an omelette". There is, rooted in a philosophy and the worldview of many in the Bush cabinet, a genuine belief that better times will come for the Iraqi people because of the American invasion, as well as a possible "ally in the War on Terror", potential military base, oil supply, etc.
Leaders make decisions that suit their interests and their respective worldviews. The fact that women and children are dying is secondary to the belief that without "attacking" the "terrorists" more women and children will die, potentially in the US, and better theirs than ours. On the flipside, though, there is a genuine belief that better things will come for Iraqis after the fact. The administration and its rather deluded cabaal believed this even before 9/11 - a sort of Pax Americana concept - that because of America's size and wealth it should hold the power to act unilaterally, police the world, and serve its own interests and values, which are inexorably linked.
The CFR is a thinktank. The TLC is a glorified talk panel. The World Bank and the IMF need to be destroyed and abolished, I agree, but linking the TLC and CFR to any sort of significant change I disagree with.
The maiming and killing is tertiary. World leaders play a very large game of chess, with big pieces at stake. In the simple mind of Bush, beating a bunch of small guys leads to the boss at the end of the level. If you read neocon philosophy, there is a very concrete theme running throughout - a perhaps divine appointment and responsibility to keep peace and order throughout the galaxy.
Yes, I believe the "puppet" version.
9/11 happened because of
Buried in the stupidity and bumbling of Bush, Blair, and friends there is a genuine desire to promote stability in the world. Bush and Blair would not have invaded Iraq if they didn't think it could work. Knowing what anyone with half a brain would know about the possibility of success in Iraq, none of us would make that decision.
However, you mix 9/11 with an idiot president, and our bumbling foreign policy is the result.
You are diggin from the bucket right here. You do not know me.
Tool as in puppet. And as far as people with no real interest, you would not be concerned with reading a Mclean dissection on the stupidity of "liberals". We all are here either to gain knowledge, promote discussion, or educate. People who were not here for the "golden years" simply see what they see and judge it.
There is a genuine belief among Neocons that you have to "break eggs to make an omelette". There is, rooted in a philosophy and the worldview of many in the Bush cabinet, a genuine belief that better times will come for the Iraqi people because of the American invasion, as well as a possible "ally in the War on Terror", potential military base, oil supply, etc.
Leaders make decisions that suit their interests and their respective worldviews. The fact that women and children are dying is secondary to the belief that without "attacking" the "terrorists" more women and children will die, potentially in the US, and better theirs than ours. On the flipside, though, there is a genuine belief that better things will come for Iraqis after the fact. The administration and its rather deluded cabaal believed this even before 9/11 - a sort of Pax Americana concept - that because of America's size and wealth it should hold the power to act unilaterally, police the world, and serve its own interests and values, which are inexorably linked.
The CFR is a thinktank. The TLC is a glorified talk panel. The World Bank and the IMF need to be destroyed and abolished, I agree, but linking the TLC and CFR to any sort of significant change I disagree with.
The maiming and killing is tertiary. World leaders play a very large game of chess, with big pieces at stake. In the simple mind of Bush, beating a bunch of small guys leads to the boss at the end of the level. If you read neocon philosophy, there is a very concrete theme running throughout - a perhaps divine appointment and responsibility to keep peace and order throughout the galaxy.
Yes, I believe the "puppet" version.
9/11 happened because of
- American support for Israel, Russia, China, India, Algeria, and Uzbekistan
- American staging of troops in Saudi Arabia
- The Islamic Revolution of 1980
- Bush, Clinton and other presidents refusal to take hard steps against Israel
- American protection of Muslim tyrannies such as Egypt, Kuwait, and Qatar
- American efforts to control oil policy and pricing
Buried in the stupidity and bumbling of Bush, Blair, and friends there is a genuine desire to promote stability in the world. Bush and Blair would not have invaded Iraq if they didn't think it could work. Knowing what anyone with half a brain would know about the possibility of success in Iraq, none of us would make that decision.
However, you mix 9/11 with an idiot president, and our bumbling foreign policy is the result.
"Why not your captain powers haven't been activated yet?"
No, I dont know much about the subject and haven't participated in the thread because of that.
"or offline."
If you understand what I meant by this I don't know why you're being condescending. You said "who are you", am I wrong to think that you're implying that I am acting holy'er than thou by questioning what you said? Who am I doesn't matter to anyone on the siccness because I wasn't taking advantage of the situation to point at heresy and say "what an asshole, how shameful" to make myself seem "just" or right.
"Unneccesary is people starving here in america while america spends billions on a manufactured war. Unneccesary is constantly taking cheap shots and constantly thinking you are going to get away with it. I only started to call him on his BS in this thread. What I said IS neccesary especially when I am defedning myself."
Definately not going to argue with any of this if thats your justification for saying such things. I didn't think it was going to be such a big deal. If you think you need to use cutting remarks to defend yourself when youre obviously intelligent enough to use the knowledge you have, fine.
"Whos fault is that? It is my fault that you don't remember seeing any threads related to the subject? I am sure their are MANY people who DO remember."
Again, wasn't implying that you didn't make them. Just saying that I didn't see them, therefore I couldn't know the knowledge you were trying to share, therefore I have no idea where you're coming from.
"I wouldn't give you anything if MY life depended on it you sarcastic piece of shit. Who the hell are you? No one important right? Right. So why would I entertain your request?"
Wasn't being sarcastic, I respect you and value your views and would like to read the same things you have because I trust you know best where to get started.
No, I dont know much about the subject and haven't participated in the thread because of that.
"or offline."
If you understand what I meant by this I don't know why you're being condescending. You said "who are you", am I wrong to think that you're implying that I am acting holy'er than thou by questioning what you said? Who am I doesn't matter to anyone on the siccness because I wasn't taking advantage of the situation to point at heresy and say "what an asshole, how shameful" to make myself seem "just" or right.
"Unneccesary is people starving here in america while america spends billions on a manufactured war. Unneccesary is constantly taking cheap shots and constantly thinking you are going to get away with it. I only started to call him on his BS in this thread. What I said IS neccesary especially when I am defedning myself."
Definately not going to argue with any of this if thats your justification for saying such things. I didn't think it was going to be such a big deal. If you think you need to use cutting remarks to defend yourself when youre obviously intelligent enough to use the knowledge you have, fine.
"Whos fault is that? It is my fault that you don't remember seeing any threads related to the subject? I am sure their are MANY people who DO remember."
Again, wasn't implying that you didn't make them. Just saying that I didn't see them, therefore I couldn't know the knowledge you were trying to share, therefore I have no idea where you're coming from.
"I wouldn't give you anything if MY life depended on it you sarcastic piece of shit. Who the hell are you? No one important right? Right. So why would I entertain your request?"
Wasn't being sarcastic, I respect you and value your views and would like to read the same things you have because I trust you know best where to get started.