Since we are exposing people...

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I disagree...repression is never healthy. It will build over time and it will come out. Repression can make people's personality's flip into something no one wants to see.

It's extremely healthy if dealt with in a timely manner. Some things need to be repressed in order to handle it correctly and be solved over time. It's not good to keep it in for too long or your entire life, but breathing all of it in and letting it out and solving it piece by piece is perfectly fine. If it weren't for repression people would literally turn psychologically insane with one single instance.

 

[VanD]

HE IS GOING TO SEE IN THE COMING DAYS/WEEKS WHAT IS IN STORE FOR HIM. :O)

I AM NOT INTERESTED IN A WHORE. SHANE IS MUCH BETTER PREY. I LOVE IT.

I AM ENJOYING THIS.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Doggie, NLP was where it was at in the 80s. At best today, it is highly criticized and mainly relegated to the fringes of psychology with "self help" gurus.

So what has progressed since then?
Nothing, it's still in the now and being worked on.

That's like saying the Internet is a way of the 90s.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

It's extremely healthy if dealt with in a timely manner. Some things need to be repressed in order to handle it correctly and be solved over time. It's not good to keep it in for too long or your entire life, but breathing all of it in and letting it out and solving it piece by piece is perfectly fine. If it weren't for repression people would literally turn psychologically insane with one single instance.

What kind of "repression" are we talking about here? A traumatic event or an argument with your girlfriend? Each CAN and IS dealt differently, becuase one is SUB-conscious and the other is conscious.

A woman gets raped, but can not remember the event or denies that it ever happened. This was dont SUB consciously, without her knowing. This NEEDS to be dealt with, becuase all kinds of problems can arise from this. It doesn't matter if it gets dealt with the same day or 20 years from the event.

I was upset at my girlfriend the other day, but before I talked to her about it, I wanted to make sure what I said was coherent, non-aggressive, and justifiable. I slept on it. That was a CONSCIOUS decisions to "repress" my feelings.

Subconscious repression is bad, period. Any psychologist will tell you that.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

So what has progressed since then?
Nothing, it's still in the now and being worked on.

That's like saying the Internet is a way of the 90s.

NLP is considered "pseudo-psychology" by the scholarly psychology community for many reasons. One being that there is no empirical evidence that it actually works.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

We only interact in here via a keyboard...nothing else. We can not see facial expressions or hear tones in voice. So we can only go by what WE feel or think is correct.
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It's text and you can express any sense that you want to portray through semantics, plus this place is all images. It's done all the time in advertisements. So every paper and online ad has a kinesthetic approach? That's literally impossible. If you pick apart their sentences you can easily establish a type of rapport with them. You hear what I'm saying....

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

NLP is considered "pseudo-psychology" by the scholarly psychology community for many reasons. One being that there is no empirical evidence that it actually works.

No arguments on that. There is no empirical evidence that any specific type of "talk therapy" works. Nothing can be proven to be completely true and useful, we can only do our best when trying wash someone. Especially now, which is why everything is so heavily geared towards prescription medication.

 

[chill winston]

dont yall have anything better to do??

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

It's text and you can express any sense that you want to portray through semantics, plus this place is all images. It's done all the time in advertisements. So every paper and online ad has a kinesthetic approach? That's literally impossible. If you pick apart their sentences you can easily establish a type of rapport with them. You hear what I'm saying....

This entire paragraph is a contradiction in and of itself.

Ads and humans typing on the internet = not the same thing at all.

 

[VanD]

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

What kind of "repression" are we talking about here? A traumatic event or an argument with your girlfriend? Each CAN and IS dealt differently, becuase one is SUB-conscious and the other is conscious.

A woman gets raped, but can not remember the event or denies that it ever happened. This was dont SUB consciously, without her knowing. This NEEDS to be dealt with, becuase all kinds of problems can arise from this. It doesn't matter if it gets dealt with the same day or 20 years from the event.

I was upset at my girlfriend the other day, but before I talked to her about it, I wanted to make sure what I said was coherent, non-aggressive, and justifiable. I slept on it. That was a CONSCIOUS decisions to "repress" my feelings.

Subcontinents repression is bad, period. Any psychologist will tell you that.

My main point it that nothing can be set in stone. Which is why I even started discussing these things. People are different. You (nor anyone) can develop a guideline and say that repression is OK in some instances and not OK in others. That is completely up the the individuals outlook in life and the map of their brain.

Due to my current stress load and what is going on in my life, I would personally rather suppress a traumatic event and deal with it later than deal with it now. An argument I can deal with today with my girlfriend (which I literally have to do) is not a big deal and isn't time consuming.

I see what you are saying, and you are right. Correct in the instance that it applies in a world that doesn't take anything else into consideration, but there are circumstances and a ton of variable change in real everyday life that doesn't allow psych-therapy to be a clear 1 through 10 step process. NLP takes those into consideration, as where hard cold old school psych does not.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

This entire paragraph is a contradiction in and of itself.

Ads and humans typing on the internet = not the same thing at all.

It's the exact same. You are trying to get a point across and so is the advertisement. They both use visuals and text. I don't see where the difference is.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

So what has progressed since then?
Nothing, it's still in the now and being worked on.

That's like saying the Internet is a way of the 90s.

If we had all jumped on the internet bandwagon and then hoped off when we realized that is was limiting and there were better resources to share information.... then your analogy would be correct.

However, since we are still using the internet and the popularity of NLP has decreased significantly, your analogy is erroneous.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

dont yall have anything better to do??

Ha ya I really need to get out of here.
We'll continue on this one edj...

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

If we had all jumped on the internet bandwagon and then hoped off when we realized that is was limiting and there were better resources to share information.... then your analogy would be correct.

However, since we are still using the internet and the popularity of NLP has decreased significantly, your analogy is erroneous.

What are you basing that NLP is dying from? Even if it was, where are the people going now? Back to the "sex influences everything" mentalists of the 20's. If you are saying NLP is old, all I am asking is what is new?

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

My main point it that nothing can be set in stone. Which is why I even started discussing these things. People are different. You (nor anyone) can develop a guideline and say that repression is OK in some instances and not OK in others. That is completely up the the individuals outlook in life and the map of their brain.

While i agree that life is subjective, repression of a traumatic event usually leads to altering of personalities, showing sometimes inappropriate or unexplainable behavior and other psychological problems. Repression can take away the enjoyment of once pleasurable things without a reason to the person experiencing it. It is an opinion that release can relieve stress and anxiety, as well as root up other issues. But i can say with much confidence that most others in the psychology field would AGREE with me. This is all based on a person experiences problems that they can not explain. Come to find out, there is a repression issue.

Due to my current stress load and what is going on in my life, I would personally rather suppress a traumatic event and deal with it later than deal with it now. An argument I can deal with today with my girlfriend (which I literally have to do) is not a big deal and isn't time consuming.

Right, but again, you are CONSCIOUSLY repressing this event, because you know its there and its a CHOICE. This is NOT the same thing a subconscious repression.

I see what you are saying, and you are right. Correct in the instance that it applies in a world that doesn't take anything else into consideration, but there are circumstances and a ton of variable change in real everyday life that doesn't allow psych-therapy to be a clear 1 through 10 step process. NLP takes those into consideration, as where hard cold old school psych does not.

Just talking to someone and asking them questions doesn't warrant anything other than getting a clearer picture of a diagnosis. That is not ground breaking. NLP takes simple ideas and tries to make them out to be something phenomenal. Anyone with common sense knows that acknowledgment and atonement can "cleanse the soul". However, when you are dealing with someone that is experience depressing due to low serotonin levels, no talking in the world is going to help that issue. That is a chemical imbalance that needs attending to, and it doesn't not necessarily have to be pharmaceutically induced.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

It's the exact same. You are trying to get a point across and so is the advertisement. They both use visuals and text. I don't see where the difference is.

No, they are NOT the same. A message being delivered by an ad is intentional (although sometimes subliminal) for the purpose of monetary gain, while a poster can just type out jibber-jabber for the fuck of it. The poster may gain something from it, but without understanding the context, it is meaningless to you and me.

 

[VanD]

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

What are you basing that NLP is dying from? Even if it was, where are the people going now? Back to the "sex influences everything" mentalists of the 20's. If you are saying NLP is old, all I am asking is what is new?

Why does something new have to replace it? Maybe it just died out and the people who practiced it, did something entirely different. Wasn't one of the problems with NLP a lack of credentials from those offering it? If that is the case, what exactly are they going to do without any proof that they know what they are doing in the science/medical world?

 

[Gas One]

lmao

the last two pages in this thread are ridiculous