Shane Carwin implicated in federal steroids investigation

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Are you retarded? They test before and after every single UFC event. No point in talking to someone who has no clue. :hurt: lmao at using Alves as an example. The guy can't even make weight.
How would you know? Are you on the panel?
That's why this got through 2 weeks ago.

I get bacne like that. Ya, when I take more than 700mg of test a week.

Go study your gear before you try to label who uses and who doesn't (including sports and your gym).
 
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lmao at using Alves as an example. The guy can't even make weight.
He can't make weight because he carries so much water in.
I get like that too, when I hit 30mg of dbol stacked of 400mg of deca.
Oh, but he doesnt do that. He get's tested before and after by the NSAC.
He just naturally looks like a wall that could stop a truck.

Ya, right..
 
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He can't make weight because he carries so much water in.
I get like that too, when I hit 30mg of dbol stacked of 400mg of deca.
Oh, but he doesnt do that. He get's tested before and after by the NSAC.
He just naturally looks like a wall that could stop a truck.

Ya, right..
Not sure what you're on about here. There's people who use PED's in EVERY sport....including boxing.

And you say UFC is a joke, but you watch it and all the PPV's. Just like most of the other people on here who bash MMA. They say it sucks but then go and they watch every PPV of UFC and Strikeforce. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
 
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He can't make weight because he carries so much water in.
I get like that too, when I hit 30mg of dbol stacked of 400mg of deca.
Oh, but he doesnt do that. He get's tested before and after by the NSAC.
He just naturally looks like a wall that could stop a truck.

Ya, right..
You're a dumbass. Nobody in here is saying MMA fighters aren't on shit. But you said they aren't governed equally by the state or that boxing is cleaner. rofl. That shit your taking is making you retarded. I train with tons of dudes that fight professionally and they all tell me they get tested heavy even at the lower level. Get the fuck out of here dude.
 
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Why do MMA fan's get so butthurt when boxing comes up?

My case in point is that MMA fighters blatantly come in on cycle. It's not a shock.
I am stating, steroids is used more in MMA (per individual ratio) than any other sport. It's extremely obvious and like a poster previosuly said, everyone is on except for Fedor and Big Country. That is my statement.

If you want to disagree with it because you think there are all these strict testing rules in place and UFC fighters get tested just like high profiled boxers, then more power to you. I think it's a bullshit statement.

Secondly, not all PED's are the same. You can't compare one to the other.
My point being, the PED's that MMA fighters use are much more deadly (to their opponent) than what other athletes use. If you want to argue that case then state examples.

Look at the UFC HW champ. The guy is close to Jay Cutler, a professional body builder.
Barnett got popped for Masteron. Chavez Jr. got popped for using a mild diuretic.
Big difference.

You probably don't know the slightest thing about steroids, but you talk like you do. It's rather ridiculous. If you want to talk PED's, then talk chems.
 
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Why do MMA fan's get so butthurt when boxing comes up?

My case in point is that MMA fighters blatantly come in on cycle. It's not a shock.
I am stating, steroids is used more in MMA (per individual ratio) than any other sport. It's extremely obvious and like a poster previosuly said, everyone is on except for Fedor and Big Country. That is my statement.

If you want to disagree with it because you think there are all these strict testing rules in place and UFC fighters get tested just like high profiled boxers, then more power to you. I think it's a bullshit statement.

Secondly, not all PED's are the same. You can't compare one to the other.
My point being, the PED's that MMA fighters use are much more deadly (to their opponent) than what other athletes use. If you want to argue that case then state examples.

Look at the UFC HW champ. The guy is close to Jay Cutler, a professional body builder.
Barnett got popped for Masteron. Chavez Jr. got popped for using a mild diuretic.
Big difference.

You probably don't know the slightest thing about steroids, but you talk like you do. It's rather ridiculous. If you want to talk PED's, then talk chems.
You're right. I don't know shit about PEDs. But you know what I do know? I know that i'm in the gym every single day for the last 5 years and i've trained with some of the best fighters on the planet(Jake shields, gil melendez, etc.) and I see this shit. You don't. I can go talk to one of my jiu jitsu homies who used to be a professional body builder and find out everything I want about PED's cause he's done every single one. You're a keyboard warrior homie. I'm done.
 
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Not sure what you're on about here. There's people who use PED's in EVERY sport....including boxing.

And you say UFC is a joke, but you watch it and all the PPV's. Just like most of the other people on here who bash MMA. They say it sucks but then go and they watch every PPV of UFC and Strikeforce. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
As I sated above, you cannot just put PED's into one category.
That's like saying everyone does drugs. Well, the person who smokes weed occasionally is different than the person who uses heroin.

I might watch a couple UFC's a year. Not an avid follower like most MMA fans.
I enjoy watching certain fighters, but other than that I don't watch it very often.
 
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You're right. I don't know shit about PEDs. But you know what I do know? I know that i'm in the gym every single day for the last 5 years and i've trained with some of the best fighters on the planet(Jake shields, gil melendez, etc.) and I see this shit. You don't. I can go talk to one of my jiu jitsu homies who used to be a professional body builder and find out everything I want about PED's cause he's done every single one. You're a keyboard warrior homie. I'm done.
>Implying I'm not in the gym.
>Implying I don't train.
 
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As I sated above, you cannot just put PED's into one category.
That's like saying everyone does drugs. Well, the person who smokes weed occasionally is different than the person who uses heroin.

I might watch a couple UFC's a year. Not an avid follower like most MMA fans.
I enjoy watching certain fighters, but other than that I don't watch it very often.
I honestly don't know what your argument is here. You are saying people in MMA do roids. Hasn't it been stated several times in this thread that people think a lot of them are, just like in other sports? What are you saying? What's your point?
 
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to the back acne thing, all that is is too much testosterone which people can have naturally like me. alot of sex addicts have alot of bacne aswell since there testosterone is through the roof. i get that shit all the time and i've never even looked at a steroid up close before so just sayin. and when i do work out i get it even more cause i'm getting my testosterone up even higher when i have it high to begin with.


but anyways i think it's equal in ALL sports and i dont let it get to me anymore. they should just let all guys do what they wnt so we can have terminators in the ring duking it out, and we might even see poepl die, now thats more primetime than roy nelson's fatass lol.
 
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oh and the thiago alves, i can take a picture right now of one of my boys who is almost as swell as him and the dude doesnt even work out that much at all. and he's naturally like that. some people have it in there genetics to look the way they look and if you add the training then bam you got yourself a beastly dude. he could be on steroids aswell but your acting like there aint people out there that have these problems naturally
 
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I honestly don't know what your argument is here. You are saying people in MMA do roids. Hasn't it been stated several times in this thread that people think a lot of them are, just like in other sports? What are you saying? What's your point?
My initial argument is that I think more people are going untested then should be. Obviously this is not something I can prove since I don't do the testing for the NSAC. It's just more of a personal observation. So that's neither here nor there.

Mostly, you can't just say everyone does PED's in every sport and justify it like what the MMA fighters do is the same as other athletes. Mark Kerr or Kevin Randleman are on another level than someone like Vargas or Roger Clemens.

By the way, I have nothing against them using anyways.
 
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It's not just how Alves looks. His weight fluctuates so much, I just haven't seen anything like it. Plus he gasses after a round or two, like he isn't used to carrying all the extra weight. Just a bunch of things that kind of add up.

Anyways, a quick google search shows he's been popped before.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/1704/report-thiago-alves-tests-positive-for-banned-substance.mma

Like I said, I use too. It's really easy to tell who uses and who doesn't when you are into it.
 
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dude im not a fuck mma boxing rules type!!! i love mma, im just sayin there are a lot of juicers in mma... more than boxing!! and whats ur name? lesbian yoyo?!!! hahah!!!
 
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Roy Nelson:
"Just woke up and was reading the mma news websites and only one had real news ufc champ shane carwin steroids court case. I am surprised that athletes in mma do steroids ;( that explains body types."

Shane Carwin:
"I love Roy Nelson trying to elevate his status by talking smacks. Hopefully he is doing so on a treadmil. Some have rolls he has a bakery."

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...itter-quarrel/

I find it hilarious that Carwin should mention the word treadmill. He's the last person who should be tossing that word around. God I hope this fight gets put together & Big country KO's him or better yet tears a limb off. I strongly dislike Shane as a fighter.