Serious Rapper Question
- Thread starter Gemini
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LOL! You guy's are too much.
Reason is, I see a whole lot of people in the game charging for verses without a real buzz. It's all based on success within themselves (their own mind / region etc.)
It's like, you ask the regular Joe...
"Do you know who so & so is?"
"No."
"Do you know who Jay Z is?"
"Yes."
That's what I'm talking about, most underground artist are unknown and wanting to charge like they're actually famous. It all vents from 2Pac charging for a verse way back in his "Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z." days, but many people fail to realize that 2Pac was actually signed to a major at that time. He wasn't tootin' his own horn claiming to be tight or the hottest rapper out the area / his next album being the dopest album to hit the music scene and is going to blow up off it.
I've had a few locals try & charge me for verses, so my reply is, "I charge too, Bro. I'm successful and have made big moves in the game." (sarcasm.)
I had this one dude say, "It's like a tip your giving the artist for his contribution to the project. Just like paying someone to paint your car, your paying someone for their craft."
LOL! I told him to fuck himself.
I don't believe artist charge each other, I think they just go after those that believe and will pay.
I won't knock anyone's hustle, if there is a sucker, get it every time you can.
On some real, I own my publishings and expect an artist wanting to charge me to own his, but it's rare. The infamous, "I'll be getting that next week, Bro." line I've heard so many times, that if I charged for every time I've heard that, I could live off that alone LOL!
It would be easy to charge / get paid off publishings. If the artist is truly confident that his name will sell, he should not have a problem registering the song and getting paid off royalty checks.
Just my 2 on the subject.
Reason is, I see a whole lot of people in the game charging for verses without a real buzz. It's all based on success within themselves (their own mind / region etc.)
It's like, you ask the regular Joe...
"Do you know who so & so is?"
"No."
"Do you know who Jay Z is?"
"Yes."
That's what I'm talking about, most underground artist are unknown and wanting to charge like they're actually famous. It all vents from 2Pac charging for a verse way back in his "Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z." days, but many people fail to realize that 2Pac was actually signed to a major at that time. He wasn't tootin' his own horn claiming to be tight or the hottest rapper out the area / his next album being the dopest album to hit the music scene and is going to blow up off it.
I've had a few locals try & charge me for verses, so my reply is, "I charge too, Bro. I'm successful and have made big moves in the game." (sarcasm.)
I had this one dude say, "It's like a tip your giving the artist for his contribution to the project. Just like paying someone to paint your car, your paying someone for their craft."
LOL! I told him to fuck himself.
I don't believe artist charge each other, I think they just go after those that believe and will pay.
I won't knock anyone's hustle, if there is a sucker, get it every time you can.
On some real, I own my publishings and expect an artist wanting to charge me to own his, but it's rare. The infamous, "I'll be getting that next week, Bro." line I've heard so many times, that if I charged for every time I've heard that, I could live off that alone LOL!
It would be easy to charge / get paid off publishings. If the artist is truly confident that his name will sell, he should not have a problem registering the song and getting paid off royalty checks.
Just my 2 on the subject.
PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET OR INVESTOR.IF THATS THE CASE,THEN PAYING 4 A VERSE OR FEATURE SHOULD EITHER HAVE SENTIMENTAL VALUE OR BE ABLE 2 HELP U SELL RECORDS.IF I DO MUSIC WITH AN ARTIST I "RESPECT",I USUALLY DO 2 SONGS WITH THEM AND WE EACH KEEP 1 SO ITS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT.I SELL MY VERSES IN REGIONS I KNOW I SELL IN.SOME OF THE SONGS NEVER GET RELEASED AND ITS USUALLY BECUZ THEY DONT HAVE THE PROPER BUDGET.IN THE MUSIC BIZ,A PERSONS TIME IS RARELY FREE.EVERYONE THAT RAPS IS NOT PROFESSIONAL SO CHARGING 4 FEATURES IS ONE GOOD WAY 2 SEPERATE THE GAME IMO.1
^AGREED.
It's a business. To some it's a hobby or "fun"...but if you do some research on someone like myself; I run it as so..BUSINESS. Not everyone see's rap as the next man, so I guess it just depends on who you reach out to. My advice is do some research on the artist/label you are thinking of contacting before hand so you know how to play your cards. I rarely make a move if there is no real purpose for it these days. It's ugly out here selling music, gotta be well rounded in order to make money or have a loyal "established" fan base as someone like Tay does.
It's a business. To some it's a hobby or "fun"...but if you do some research on someone like myself; I run it as so..BUSINESS. Not everyone see's rap as the next man, so I guess it just depends on who you reach out to. My advice is do some research on the artist/label you are thinking of contacting before hand so you know how to play your cards. I rarely make a move if there is no real purpose for it these days. It's ugly out here selling music, gotta be well rounded in order to make money or have a loyal "established" fan base as someone like Tay does.
Shit i charge people just to talk on a commerical
or promo... etc..
or do voice overs...
if I do THAT. then you better believe I'm charging for the verse..
weather I'm famous or not..
if the verse is hot.. the verse is hot.
I'll tell you this.. my verse would be better than any of this
bubble gum... weak sauce on the radio...
i charge if i have to get out of my comfortable chair..
that's just how I roll... ha ha
or promo... etc..
or do voice overs...
if I do THAT. then you better believe I'm charging for the verse..
weather I'm famous or not..
if the verse is hot.. the verse is hot.
I'll tell you this.. my verse would be better than any of this
bubble gum... weak sauce on the radio...
i charge if i have to get out of my comfortable chair..
that's just how I roll... ha ha
It's a business. If an artist wants another artist to sit down and work (which is what it is when it's more than a hobby), that artist is going to have to pay. Time is money. The problem is cats want to put out albums and make money, but they aren't willing to pay to create the product...they are basically looking for a handout. If you don't think the dude is tight, then don't pay him and don't feature him. But if you're going to ask an artist to work on your project, you obviously think he is good enough...so the man should be paid.
I don't know about anybody here, but I wouldn't approach an artist who sucks. So, if he's good enough for me to want to work with him...he's good enough for some cash.
I don't know about anybody here, but I wouldn't approach an artist who sucks. So, if he's good enough for me to want to work with him...he's good enough for some cash.
I would say it really depends on who it is that asked for your services. Like If dude is indy and got a buzz and gunna make some sales, do it on the strength and after the song comes out flip a new bar code and put it on itunes under your own catalogue (with permission from the artist of course). You're gettin paid. If dude is unknown charge up front or else what's in it for you? If dude has a legit label backing him, upfront money + 3% on the back end, that's what labels are for. If it's the homie and you're just fuckin around in the studio, we're just chillin makin music kickin it, maybe we'll make a hit and we'll both end up gettin paid. If it's someone you might benefit from having on your project, swap. If it could evolve into beneficial business relationship, be easy maybe and think about the long term. I dunno thats how I look at it when I'm asked to produce for someone. You just gotta weigh out what could be the most beneficial.
Thank you, that is exactly my point / sarcasm.
Everybody wants to get paid like they have a college degree, but in reality are still sitting in elementary.
It's part ego boost. Some people just like feeling successful when they earn money for nothing. If rapping, writing, etc is taking you out of your comfort zone, this game is not for you. The game should not be that difficult. You should enjoy what your doing and it shouldn't feel like work. That's what separates a job from a career.
Yet, most will brag and boast about making big moves and becoming more successful and we can argue the whole success is not the MTV theory, but if your patting yourself on the back & claiming to be successful & living off music, but still renting?
Maybe you should take a deeper look and see how successful you really are in the rap game, or are you simply a 9 to 5 man who is trying to make it in the music biz like everybody else?