September 11, Oklahoma City, Chandra Levy

[Sydal]

98% of what you just said is bullshit...Let me touch on just a few things, since I'm @ work and don't really have time to get into great detail here.

the G.U.N CD and Sir Dyno fell under the RICO LAWS, and yes, I do agree that the RICO ACT is complete and utter bullshit. BUT, since the laws exist, you have to seperate yourself from those involved in organized criminal activity, otherwise you are guilty by association (that, by the way, is a given). It was NOT taken off the shelves because it was about being a Norteno, it was taken off the shelf because of financial suspicion, that being they believed it to be a funded project by the Nuestra Familia. NOT LEGAL since it is an "alleged" criminal organization (I say "alleged" because I don't know much about the NF, so I'm not going to say they are this or that, because I really don't know). Sir Dyno is being charged with Conspiracy, 'cause since he was associating with certain people, he could know things. Again, thats how RICO works, and I do think it's bullshit, but it has been in affect for years and years, people should know.

I'm not gonna touch on pregnancy cause there's no argument there, 6 months is more than enough. After that, the baby is almost fully developed, and it's not a good idea to abort that late in a pregnancy, take it from somebody who used to work in Gynecology @ Kaiser.

Good and Bad Choices. You choose to rob or kill somebody, bad choice...you choose to help somebody, or hell, you choose NOT to rob or kill somebody, good choice. That's how shit is determined, common fuckin' sense. I know, a lot of people don't have it, but even people who don't have common sense know right from wrong/good from bad. No argument there, if you have to ask you should go back to Kindergarten.

The man who wrote the book on the Oklahoma City Bombings has NO FACTS, just a fuckin theory. We don't want people buying bullshit lies like this. I mean, look at this thread, EVEN THE PEOPLE I DON'T AGREE WITH, AGREE THAT THIS LITTLE THEORY IS RIDICULOUS!! Sept 11, Ok. City, and Chandra Levy, THEY DO NOT RELATE!! Give me a fuckin break.

I never said Tupac wasn't murdered, I said he wasn't silenced by the government. Now, there is proof to this. If you don't know, again that is your bad for not paying attention. Tupac's killer was identified by numerous people, including Yaki Kadafi. GUESS WHAT?? He was a Crip, from Los Angeles, who was killed in 1998. Why did a war between the Crips and the Bloods break out after 2Pac's murder? Because a Crip killed 2Pac, and the bloods knew. I'm not even gonna get into this story right now, but there's plenty of proof that the government didn't kill 2Pac. Go do some research on it if you don't believe it. Watch or listen or read some interviews from people who were present. Oh, get a hold of the entire story leading up to 2Pac's death, including the robbery in a Los Angeles Mall. 'Nuff Said!!

I'm sure there were witnesses present when Malcolm was killed, so somebody knows who did it, thus the reason I tend to believe the "he was killed by his own" story. Huey Newton, wasn't he murdered by an Unknown assailant? It's probably the same thing that happened to Medgar Evers, who was also murdered by somebody during the night, who was convicted YEARS later and it turned out not to be somebody from the government. Truth is, you'll never really know. So how can YOU blame something on somebody without proof?

 

[HERESY]

I remember them saying she was involved with the mcveigh case (as soon as she became missing). If you search this forum you may be able to find the thread and post when I mentioned it. Remember this was on the news as SOON as she was reported "missing".


Do I believe she was involved? Who knows?

Do I believe mcveigh did it? HELL NO!!!!!!



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[RuThLeSs RiCk]

98% of what you just said is bullshit...Let me touch on just a few things, since I'm @ work and don't really have time to get into great detail here.

the G.U.N CD and Sir Dyno fell under the RICO LAWS, and yes, I do agree that the RICO ACT is complete and utter bullshit. BUT, since the laws exist, you have to seperate yourself from those involved in organized criminal activity, otherwise you are guilty by association (that, by the way, is a given). It was NOT taken off the shelves because it was about being a Norteno, it was taken off the shelf because of financial suspicion, that being they believed it to be a funded project by the Nuestra Familia. NOT LEGAL since it is an "alleged" criminal organization (I say "alleged" because I don't know much about the NF, so I'm not going to say they are this or that, because I really don't know). Sir Dyno is being charged with Conspiracy, 'cause since he was associating with certain people, he could know things. Again, thats how RICO works, and I do think it's bullshit, but it has been in affect for years and years, people should know.

The RICO LAWS are bullshit, BUT what about Gang Stories. There was no question that it was NOT funded by Nuestra Familia, because they even considered putting a hit on Sir Dyno for engineering it, but they still pulled it from shelves.

I'm not gonna touch on pregnancy cause there's no argument there, 6 months is more than enough. After that, the baby is almost fully developed, and it's not a good idea to abort that late in a pregnancy, take it from somebody who used to work in Gynecology @ Kaiser.

I am actually anti-abortion...but ya know...they have the choice.

Good and Bad Choices. You choose to rob or kill somebody, bad choice...you choose to help somebody, or hell, you choose NOT to rob or kill somebody, good choice. That's how shit is determined, common fuckin' sense. I know, a lot of people don't have it, but even people who don't have common sense know right from wrong/good from bad. No argument there, if you have to ask you should go back to Kindergarten.

The government is responsible for murdering over 500,000 in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan. Thousands here in the U.S. Thousands throughout Latin America. Who is to say that what they do is wrong? Are they above the law? They are the biggest bunch of murderers in the world.

The man who wrote the book on the Oklahoma City Bombings has NO FACTS, just a fuckin theory. We don't want people buying bullshit lies like this. I mean, look at this thread, EVEN THE PEOPLE I DON'T AGREE WITH, AGREE THAT THIS LITTLE THEORY IS RIDICULOUS!! Sept 11, Ok. City, and Chandra Levy, THEY DO NOT RELATE!! Give me a fuckin break.

Have you read the book? It is a theory based on FACTS. The fact that the FBI was going in and out of the building, the fact that the man who knew it was murdered, the fact that those who saw him alive last were also murdered. Read the book before you talk. EVEN IF IT'S NOT TRUE, THEY VIOLATED THE WRITERS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND CHOICE, WHICH IS THE POINT I WAS JUST MAKING TO YOU.

I never said Tupac wasn't murdered, I said he wasn't silenced by the government. Now, there is proof to this. If you don't know, again that is your bad for not paying attention. Tupac's killer was identified by numerous people, including Yaki Kadafi. GUESS WHAT?? He was a Crip, from Los Angeles, who was killed in 1998. Why did a war between the Crips and the Bloods break out after 2Pac's murder? Because a Crip killed 2Pac, and the bloods knew. I'm not even gonna get into this story right now, but there's plenty of proof that the government didn't kill 2Pac. Go do some research on it if you don't believe it. Watch or listen or read some interviews from people who were present. Oh, get a hold of the entire story leading up to 2Pac's death, including the robbery in a Los Angeles Mall. 'Nuff Said!!

I've read all the 2pac theories, from Orlando to Suge. So what? Nobody knows, like I said, so you can't rule out the government. You can never rule out the government.

I'm sure there were witnesses present when Malcolm was killed, so somebody knows who did it, thus the reason I tend to believe the "he was killed by his own" story. Huey Newton, wasn't he murdered by an Unknown assailant? It's probably the same thing that happened to Medgar Evers, who was also murdered by somebody during the night, who was convicted YEARS later and it turned out not to be somebody from the government. Truth is, you'll never really know. So how can YOU blame something on somebody without proof?

Huey was killed by the government...no doubt. In response to your last question, "How can you blame something on somebody without proof?" Well, why don't you ask George W. Bush who blamed the Iraqis for having Weapons of Mass Destruction and Harboring Terrorists...which they have not been able to prove, and which they knew were blatant lies. Aside from this, they had NO reason to invade Iraq. HOW FUCKIN BRAINWASHED AND UNETHICAL CAN YOU BE? WHY IS IT OKAY FOR YOUR PRESIDENT TO ACT LIKE A FUCKIN MONSTER? HE HAD NO REASON TO INVADE IRAQ, NO REASON TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN. Think about it with your fuckin brain for one second. He is waging a "war on terror" in a country with no terrorist organizations, and claiming weapons of mass destruction are the reason for the invasion, when the country HAS NO weapons of mass destruction.

You didn't even answer all of the points I brought up, and you still can't prove shit with this pussy attempt. You gotta come with something better than that. I have all the proof in the world that they do silence people and commit acts of terror...you have none.

 

[Sydal]

First and foremost, I don't disagree with you on the whole invading Iraq thing, I completely agree, and that was never brought up by me. I agree that they should have taken Sadaam out of power, but I don't agree with our soldiers being killed during an occupation. I agree with the invasion of Afghanistan only because of the Al Qaeda training camps and the Taliban that was running the country at that time. The only reason I agree with it, is because I, like most people, agree that Al Qaeda planned and carried out the attacks on Sept 11, 2001.

OF COURSE the FBI was present in Oklahoma City, a Federal Building was blown in half. Now, just because this "man" who was present and all of a sudden died, did somebody SEE the FBI kill him? If not, you have no argument. I work @ a hospital, people come in ALL THE TIME, walking, talking, completely coherent, then they die minutes later. The burden of proof is in the authors hands. I don't care if somebody seems COMPLETELY healthy, they can die at any minute because you never know what's going on inside. My friend, extremely healthy and athletic, died from a cardiac arrest, cause unknown. So, like I said, you don't know what happened to that dude, he could have had major internal injuries from the large EXPLOSION that took place.

Do I believe Timothy McVeigh did it? Damn right, dude didn't even try to hide the fact. He even requested his own execution.

So, with all of those FACTS from somebody who knows how a human being can pass away without warning, your argument is still invalid. That my friend, is science, and you can't argue with such a thing. I still haven't touched the other questions because, like I said earlier, I am at work, making money.

About 2Pac, everybody knows who did it. Suge Knight knows, his ex-LAPD bodyguards know and have made it clear. Sgt. Manning of the Las Vegas Metro Police force knows. Yaki Kadafi knew, 2Pac knew, Orlando Anderson and his homies in the cadillac with him KNEW, the bloods working for Death Row knew, the bloods protecting Suge knew, and the bloods in Los Angeles knew. LV Metro had him in custody after the fact, but had to release him due to lack of evidence...(the detectives did state that the evidence was not collected properly and everything was tarnished, making it inadmissable in court)....

This shit has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand...the 3 have nothing to do with each other...it's bullshit, thats that. I'm done arguing about dumb shit.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

First and foremost, I don't disagree with you on the whole invading Iraq thing, I completely agree, and that was never brought up by me. I agree that they should have taken Sadaam out of power, but I don't agree with our soldiers being killed during an occupation. I agree with the invasion of Afghanistan only because of the Al Qaeda training camps and the Taliban that was running the country at that time. The only reason I agree with it, is because I, like most people, agree that Al Qaeda planned and carried out the attacks on Sept 11, 2001.

I agree with half of your statement. You know how I feel about the WTC attacks, so I don't need to state it again.

OF COURSE the FBI was present in Oklahoma City, a Federal Building was blown in half. Now, just because this "man" who was present and all of a sudden died, did somebody SEE the FBI kill him? If not, you have no argument. I work @ a hospital, people come in ALL THE TIME, walking, talking, completely coherent, then they die minutes later. The burden of proof is in the authors hands. I don't care if somebody seems COMPLETELY healthy, they can die at any minute because you never know what's going on inside. My friend, extremely healthy and athletic, died from a cardiac arrest, cause unknown. So, like I said, you don't know what happened to that dude, he could have had major internal injuries from the large EXPLOSION that took place.

Two men saw the FBI follow the man into the building, and they pronounced him DEAD by the blast at his desk, which was impossible. I forgot his name, but you can find it in the link I sent you.

Do I believe Timothy McVeigh did it? Damn right, dude didn't even try to hide the fact. He even requested his own execution.

He was pronounced dead at his execution. Then, one of the people in the room said, "he still has a pulse." That was the end of the execution. How do you know he didn't pretend to be the killer for the government? How do you know he wasn't brainwashed in the military? They could do a little plastic surgery and he could be livin good somewhere else right now.

So, with all of those FACTS from somebody who knows how a human being can pass away without warning, your argument is still invalid. That my friend, is science, and you can't argue with such a thing. I still haven't touched the other questions because, like I said earlier, I am at work, making money.

Yeah, just like the dozens of people who died under the Clinton administration all passed away due to suicide, crashes, and natural causes.

About 2Pac, everybody knows who did it. Suge Knight knows, his ex-LAPD bodyguards know and have made it clear. Sgt. Manning of the Las Vegas Metro Police force knows. Yaki Kadafi knew, 2Pac knew, Orlando Anderson and his homies in the cadillac with him KNEW, the bloods working for Death Row knew, the bloods protecting Suge knew, and the bloods in Los Angeles knew. LV Metro had him in custody after the fact, but had to release him due to lack of evidence...(the detectives did state that the evidence was not collected properly and everything was tarnished, making it inadmissable in court)....

This shit has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand...the 3 have nothing to do with each other...it's bullshit, thats that. I'm done arguing about dumb shit.

YOU BROUGHT UP 2PAC. I didn't even mention his name before you did. How about Huey Newton? Answer me that one. What about the American Indian Movement and Leonard Peltier?

I responded to what you posted, why don't you respond to what I posted?

 

[Sydal]

Of course I brought up 2Pac, a very good example of a cat who wasn't afraid to speak up, who wasn't killed by the government. Huey Newton, killed by an unknown assailant right? No clue about that one, but you can't blame anybody because you REALLY don't know either. Why didn't you respond to my thing about Medgar Evers? He was killed just like Huey Newton was, but it was some wacked out white supremacist who killed him. So, how do you know some nutty white supremacist didn't knock off Huey?

To be totally honest with you, I'm not familiar with the American Indian Movement or Leonard Peltier, so I couldn't answer that one without bullshit.

Sorry man, Timothy McVeigh is dead. People also said 2Pac was in the Bahamas, but that was bullshit. There are conspiracy theories for every fucking thing in America, realize it, and 99% of them are bullshit. How does this guy know the FBI followed dude into the building? FBI agents go in and out of places like that CONSTANTLY to INVESTIGATE. I think somebody would have seen the FBI knock dude off because the fuckin building was only one sided after the explosion, you could see all the way to the opposite wall.

If dude WALKED OUT of the building, I doubt police and emergency services would have let him back in, they just don't do shit like that.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

Of course I brought up 2Pac, a very good example of a cat who wasn't afraid to speak up, who wasn't killed by the government. Huey Newton, killed by an unknown assailant right? No clue about that one, but you can't blame anybody because you REALLY don't know either. Why didn't you respond to my thing about Medgar Evers? He was killed just like Huey Newton was, but it was some wacked out white supremacist who killed him. So, how do you know some nutty white supremacist didn't knock off Huey?

You can't prove he wasn't killed by the government. Huey WAS killed by the government. You said Medgar Evers was murdered by the government...you made a point for me, so thank you. How about the Gang Stories cd that was banned? It was in no way affiliated to Nuestra Familia. How do you explain that one?

To be totally honest with you, I'm not familiar with the American Indian Movement or Leonard Peltier, so I couldn't answer that one without bullshit.

Okay, so another point I made that you have no response to. How about those from the Brown Berets who were killed by police at a peaceful gathering?

Sorry man, Timothy McVeigh is dead. People also said 2Pac was in the Bahamas, but that was bullshit. There are conspiracy theories for every fucking thing in America, realize it, and 99% of them are bullshit. How does this guy know the FBI followed dude into the building? FBI agents go in and out of places like that CONSTANTLY to INVESTIGATE. I think somebody would have seen the FBI knock dude off because the fuckin building was only one sided after the explosion, you could see all the way to the opposite wall.

How do you know McVeigh is dead? Before the government told you so, and the government would never lie to you...HA! 2pac theories were trash, but 2pac did nothing big. McVeigh, on the other hand, is involved in a much larger conspiracy. About the building being clear, is there no smoke, dust, etc. in the air after an explosion? Or is the air clear?

If dude WALKED OUT of the building, I doubt police and emergency services would have let him back in, they just don't do shit like that.

You doubt it? They had so much to worry about how do you know he didn't slip by or they didn't care. What about the 2 FBI agents following him inside and pronouncing him dead at his desk? AND YET AGAIN I ASK, IS FORCING A MAN TO BURN EVERY COPY OF A BOOK HE WROTE NOT VIOLATING HIS FREEDOM OF SPEECH/CHOICE/EXPRESSION? If the book was a work of fiction, why didn't they let him release it to the public?

Stay on topic homie; answer what I asked before and what I'm asking now. You have NO response to it.

 

[Sydal]

@ work again, but let me just say, I'm done discussing this with you. You do NOT pay attention to what I say whatsoever. I don't know what # in the list of examples this is, but I never said Medgar Evers was killed by the government, because he most certainly was not, I said he was killed by some crazy white supremacist. It was an unknown assailant, until they found the weapon and the person who owned it. How do you know a crazy white supremacist didn't kill Huey Newton? I'm done with this, you obviously don't pay attention to what the fuck I say, you read what you want to and then you flip it around and TRY to use it against me, but I'm not retarded so I do catch it. You're trying to pick your battle with things you've read up on, but things I mention you're pulling out of your ass in hopes of making sense.

Now, everybody else on this thread says you're little theory is bullshit, and so do I. So, who's the fuckin idiot here? At least I'm not trying to speak on shit I know nothing about. Oh, and YES, I would have made dude burn his stupid ass book too. WAIT, did you actually see or read any articles from any kind of respected news source that mentioned this? Or did you get it from a third party website? Anyhow, if it's true, good, 'cause dude put a bunch of retarded ass conspiracy theories and lies about shit that just doesn't ring true. It's called SLANDER man. If I were to write a book, or even an article about somebody or something that was completely false and damaging, I could be sued for that. Do you not know the laws? Dude is guilty of slander, because he's talking out of his ass. He has NO proof, no physical evidence to back his theory, no pictures. All he has is his fucking word, and sorry but that just isn't good enough. You can't release slanderous materials man.

Slander slander SLANDER....
1. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

Need I say more?

I'm done. I can't continue to debate with people who know jack shit, and who don't read what I'm saying but instead say..."You just made a point for me" when all I did was put a dent in your theory. Sorry man, get a grip on reality then come chop it up with me.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

@ work again, but let me just say, I'm done discussing this with you. You do NOT pay attention to what I say whatsoever. I don't know what # in the list of examples this is, but I never said Medgar Evers was killed by the government, because he most certainly was not, I said he was killed by some crazy white supremacist. It was an unknown assailant, until they found the weapon and the person who owned it. How do you know a crazy white supremacist didn't kill Huey Newton? I'm done with this, you obviously don't pay attention to what the fuck I say, you read what you want to and then you flip it around and TRY to use it against me, but I'm not retarded so I do catch it. You're trying to pick your battle with things you've read up on, but things I mention you're pulling out of your ass in hopes of making sense.

I read your post wrong. I went back and read it. And how do you know he wasn't killed by the governmnet? They say he wasn't, but that doesn't make it true.

Now, everybody else on this thread says you're little theory is bullshit, and so do I. So, who's the fuckin idiot here? At least I'm not trying to speak on shit I know nothing about. Oh, and YES, I would have made dude burn his stupid ass book too. WAIT, did you actually see or read any articles from any kind of respected news source that mentioned this? Or did you get it from a third party website? Anyhow, if it's true, good, 'cause dude put a bunch of retarded ass conspiracy theories and lies about shit that just doesn't ring true. It's called SLANDER man. If I were to write a book, or even an article about somebody or something that was completely false and damaging, I could be sued for that. Do you not know the laws? Dude is guilty of slander, because he's talking out of his ass. He has NO proof, no physical evidence to back his theory, no pictures. All he has is his fucking word, and sorry but that just isn't good enough. You can't release slanderous materials man.

You're so fuckin brainwashed it's unbelievable.

Slander slander SLANDER....
1. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

Need I say more?

I'm done. I can't continue to debate with people who know jack shit, and who don't read what I'm saying but instead say..."You just made a point for me" when all I did was put a dent in your theory. Sorry man, get a grip on reality then come chop it up with me.

So, I misread one statement. What about the rest of the shit I wrote about. The banning of Gang Stores, AIM, Brown Berets. You're ending the argument because you cannot back up your claim, and I have backed up mine. If you can prove me wrong, I'm waiting.

 

[Sydal]

Man, I told you I didn't know about AIM...who banned Gang Stories? I've never even heard of that shit either. Brown Berets, sorry, don't know. I've backed my claim, you have yet to come with evidence as solid as mine, I've proven you wrong on Freedom of Speech AND Freedom of Choice a few times over now.

How can I be brainwashed? You're the one telling us these fuckin conspiracy theories like a damn cult leader. I can't be brainwashed, for the simple fact that I listen to nobody but myself and my own brain. That's how I've always been, that's how I always will be. I don't go get my info from what the government said, I take documented facts and believe what I want. That's another freedom we have, maybe you should try believing yourself rather than everybody else some day. Why don't I know about Brown Berets and AIM? Because I've chosen what I like learning about. Maybe those will come later, but not right now, I don't really have time to look into shit.

My claim was backed a few days ago, you failed to prove it wrong. Like I said, if anybody is brainwashed it is you, I have my own thought process, I don't believe what people tell me unless I choose to with the backing of solid evidence, cause more people are full of shit than honest these days.

You can call me ignorant all you want, but I'm far from it. If I were to be proven wrong, I would admit I was wrong, but I haven't been wrong here so I won't.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

Re-read the posts we made. I reacted to every claim you made with facts. You don't even know about half the shit I write about, but you can say without hesitation that their freedom was not violated, when in fact it was. About the first post on here, the theory is as credible as the government's lies. I'm not saying that is what happened for sure, but it is possible. Every post you have made since then I have found evidence against it, and you haven't for what I have posted. Regardless of who's right or wrong, you don't know shit about anything. First get your education, then come back and argue with me.

 

[Sydal]

You made what, 4 examples? How many did I Make in just one post? For 2 of your "no freedom of..." I came with FACTS, you came back with theories. I don't know about the things you mentioned because those are things I haven't studied, I haven't even thought about studying. Brown Berets, AIM, Gang Stories? Give me a fuckin break. You have not made any other educated arguments whatsoever, you THINK Huey Newton was killed by the government, but you can't say, he was killed during a time when revolution was feared by white america (In general), so who knows who killed him. Malcom X, Killed by his own, fact...Timothy McVeigh, bombed Oklahoma City, FACT...he rented the truck, he bought the supplies, he admitted to doing it. Medgar Evers, killed by a white supremacist named Byron De La Beckwith on his driveway, FACT!! The white government did not plant evidence like that on another white dude during a racist period in our history, it just didn't happen. 2Pac was murdered by other street thugs, fact, everybody knows it including the death row employees who were present when it took place. Afeni Shakur is still alive, Geronimo Pratt is still alive, Dr. Mutulu Shakur is still alive, the militias are still out there being as anti government as you can get.

See, to all of the responses I've come up with, you can only think of what, 4 reasons why we don't have Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Choice? Sorry man, not enough...how long ago did this shit occur? Do you understand that I can go on forever and ever about how you're wrong? I choose not to because I don't want to make you look like a complete fucking idiot. I've still shown you FACTS, and you STILL disregard them as "theories", and counter them with other "theories". At least I didn't pretend to know about something I didn't.

I'm more educated than you will ever be, kid. THE MOST educated people do not know everything, nor do they have time to go learn EVERYTHING. I'm self taught, I learned my history and my mathematics and my English on my own terms, as well as my Italian and my street knowledge...everything I know, I know because I taught myself. You CAN'T tell me I'm uneducated, look at my test scores, son. I've passed street tests, cause I'm still here, smart enough to keep my ass out of trouble and out of the ground. Then you can go look at my academic scores and eat those. When nobody could pass those Cali state Exams, ya boy was acing them, with no studying, with no help. I don't even need to go on.

YOU come back and talk to ME when you can show me your intelligence card. You can't even go there with me...LMFAO at you saying I'M uneducated. You tried to pull my card, and there it is, in your face. I don't give a fuck if you have a masters degree, common sense doesn't come from books, and neither does true intelligence...that's some shit that can't be taught pimp. Learn about that, then you can THINK about testing my intelligence. At this point in time, no contest.

 

[nefar559]

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[Sydal]

^^^^
Who's the one typing jajajajajajaja??

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

HAHAHAHA this motha fucka is completely out of touch with reality.

im a broke motha fucka but i put what little money i got that this guy is one of these weird dudes that live out in the sticks and read those fucked up books like that one that Mcvay and all those crazy ass racist milisha people read.

whats that book called about the race war bullshit.

the war timothy mcvay thought his bomb would spark.

yea, hes one of these people i bet anything on it.

probley got all them crazy ass church websites in his favirots file.

a few racist tattoes.

dude your a fuckin puppet, not us. ( not most of us anyway)

wake up and smell the commen scence. to pull off the type of shit your talking about would require a secret thats impossbile to keep.

if their was enougth evidence to soupport your retarded clames then that means the secret already has way to fuckin many leaks to be kept outright.

if theirs one thing in life thats 100% fact, its that 10 people cant keep a secret, let alone 200 media outlets, a rotateing cast of sentors and congressmen, cia & fbi agents, and god fuckin knows who else your stupid ass theroy would require to stay underwraps.

think about it............IDIOT

Spitz, I just saw your post right now. I'll kill you bitch. Fuckin momo.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

You made what, 4 examples? How many did I Make in just one post? For 2 of your "no freedom of..." I came with FACTS, you came back with theories. I don't know about the things you mentioned because those are things I haven't studied, I haven't even thought about studying. Brown Berets, AIM, Gang Stories? Give me a fuckin break. You have not made any other educated arguments whatsoever, you THINK Huey Newton was killed by the government, but you can't say, he was killed during a time when revolution was feared by white america (In general), so who knows who killed him. Malcom X, Killed by his own, fact...Timothy McVeigh, bombed Oklahoma City, FACT...he rented the truck, he bought the supplies, he admitted to doing it. Medgar Evers, killed by a white supremacist named Byron De La Beckwith on his driveway, FACT!! The white government did not plant evidence like that on another white dude during a racist period in our history, it just didn't happen. 2Pac was murdered by other street thugs, fact, everybody knows it including the death row employees who were present when it took place. Afeni Shakur is still alive, Geronimo Pratt is still alive, Dr. Mutulu Shakur is still alive, the militias are still out there being as anti government as you can get.

See, to all of the responses I've come up with, you can only think of what, 4 reasons why we don't have Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Choice? Sorry man, not enough...how long ago did this shit occur? Do you understand that I can go on forever and ever about how you're wrong? I choose not to because I don't want to make you look like a complete fucking idiot. I've still shown you FACTS, and you STILL disregard them as "theories", and counter them with other "theories". At least I didn't pretend to know about something I didn't.

I'm more educated than you will ever be, kid. THE MOST educated people do not know everything, nor do they have time to go learn EVERYTHING. I'm self taught, I learned my history and my mathematics and my English on my own terms, as well as my Italian and my street knowledge...everything I know, I know because I taught myself. You CAN'T tell me I'm uneducated, look at my test scores, son. I've passed street tests, cause I'm still here, smart enough to keep my ass out of trouble and out of the ground. Then you can go look at my academic scores and eat those. When nobody could pass those Cali state Exams, ya boy was acing them, with no studying, with no help. I don't even need to go on.

YOU come back and talk to ME when you can show me your intelligence card. You can't even go there with me...LMFAO at you saying I'M uneducated. You tried to pull my card, and there it is, in your face. I don't give a fuck if you have a masters degree, common sense doesn't come from books, and neither does true intelligence...that's some shit that can't be taught pimp. Learn about that, then you can THINK about testing my intelligence. At this point in time, no contest.

EVIDENCE I HAVE PROVIDED:

1:

Title: The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror
Author: David Hoffman, Benton K. Partin
Foreword: Representative Charles Key, Charles Key
Publisher: Feral House
Date Published: November 1997
ISBN: 0922915490
LOCN: HV6432.H65 1998
Dewey: 364.16/4 21
Pages: 509
Footnotes: 883 entries
Photos: 49
Proof that the government silences those who oppose its motives (freedom of speech, expression, press, choice) and that they took part in the Oklahoma City bombings. You want a motive? The end of the Cold War. They needed a new "red herring" to keep citizens on their toes. If you don't believe it try to think of one time in history there wasn't one big "threat" or another.

The violation of freedom is FACT; the FBI's involvement in the events prior to the explosion is FACT; the FBI taking part in blowing up the buildings is a theory, as is Al Qaeda's involvement in September 11.

2. Impact from collapsing structure, causing 2 seismograph readings:

University of Oklahoma/Oklahoma Geological Survey state that there were 2 blast approximately 10 seconds apart from each other is FACT; the bomb could NOT have been from a truck is FACT; it was an explosion conducted according to a government design that is only available to the highest levels of government is theoretical.

3. Chandra Levy entered Mossad headquarters in Isreael weeks before her murder is FACT; Chandra Levy was part of the Mossad's Operation Dumb Eagle is FACT according to an ex-MOSSAD member

4. According to Ha'aretz, the largest circulation daily newspaper in Israel, on the day the two hijacked aircraft exploded the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, five Israelis were sighted atop a New York Manhattan building. They were working a video camera. This Israeli spy team videotaped the entire terrorist incident from start to finish. Nearby observers who clandestinely saw them were astonished to see the five men shouting joyously and jumping up and down as the explosions ripped the towers and each building collapsed.These nearby witnesses phoned the NYC police and the FBI. The FBI came and arrested the five, who turned out to be Israelis carrying false visa papers. The Ha'aretz article said the five were stripped of their clothes, incarcerated in dark jail cells, and interrogated nonstop for 13 solid hours by FBI agents. The FBI interrogators accused the five of being Israeli Mossad spy agents. THIS IS FACT.


5. Explosives inside WTC - According to Eric Hufschmid, explosives were inside the towers; this is theory. Seimographic readings that show a HUGE seismographic spike at the beginning of the tower collapse and not as much later in the collapse indicate that there was an explosion, more likely from inside the building, that made the buildings collapse; FACT.

6. New Yorkers practiced for drills for 2 years leading up to the attacks and Bush said they had no idea the attacks could occur.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...-18-norad_x.htm

NORAD had drills of jets as weaponsBy Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.

7. When asked whether or not to shoot down the plane headed for the Pentagon, Cheney continually said "No." This is fact.

8. The CIA had plans to commit terrorist acts in the United States against U.S. citizens to give the country a reason to go to Cuba. This is a FACT!

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/dailynews/jointchiefs_010501.html

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

9. FBI murdered over 100 members of the American Indian Movement is FACT.

10. FBI unjustly imprisoned Leonard Peltier for speaking his mind; this is a FACT.

11. GUN cd was pulled off shelves. Gang Stories, which had no affiliation to any group, was also banned. Infringing on right to freedom of speech. FACT.

12. Goverment murdered several members of Brown Berets. This is a fact.

13. You are NOT allowed to perform religious sacrifices, burnings, etc., so we are not free to choose and engage in any religion.

14. Church and state are supposed to be separate, but president is sworn in on the Bible. Pledge of allegiance says, "One nation, under god," which is another violation which keeps religion out of schools.

15. Huey Newton (theory) as well as many other Black Panthers were murdered by FBI agents and the police (fact).

16. The government has murdered over 500,000 in Iraq, hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan, thousands in the U.S., hundreds of thousands in Asia, and thousands throughout Latin America...FACT!

17. George W. Bush invaded Iraq based on the THEORY that they had weapons of mass destruction. He attacked BEFORE the deadline for Saddam's surrender, and without the consent of the United Nations. There are NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So, why did he invade?

18. The American government trained, armed, and funded Osama bin Laden.

19. The American government provides aid in the form of money, food, and WEAPONS to the Israelis, who have terrorized innocent Palestinians for years.

I got a lot more...This is just scrapin the surface. Everything I have listed is a fact with only a few theories. You said I only had 4 facts?

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

I'm more educated than you will ever be, kid. THE MOST educated people do not know everything, nor do they have time to go learn EVERYTHING. I'm self taught, I learned my history and my mathematics and my English on my own terms, as well as my Italian and my street knowledge...everything I know, I know because I taught myself. You CAN'T tell me I'm uneducated, look at my test scores, son. I've passed street tests, cause I'm still here, smart enough to keep my ass out of trouble and out of the ground. Then you can go look at my academic scores and eat those. When nobody could pass those Cali state Exams, ya boy was acing them, with no studying, with no help. I don't even need to go on.

YOU come back and talk to ME when you can show me your intelligence card. You can't even go there with me...LMFAO at you saying I'M uneducated. You tried to pull my card, and there it is, in your face. I don't give a fuck if you have a masters degree, common sense doesn't come from books, and neither does true intelligence...that's some shit that can't be taught pimp. Learn about that, then you can THINK about testing my intelligence. At this point in time, no contest.

OK, now we're going into some personal shit. First, kid? How old are you? I am self taught in history. Son? Are you tryin to act cool? HAHA

Nobody could pass the Cali state exams and you aced them? Dog, I wasn't there the first time they gave them, so I had to take them after school at another time. One test a day. Each test had an hour and a half limit, and I finished all 4 or 5, can't remember, in under 1 hour total. And all perfect scores on those. In 6th grade I was at college level for reading, math, english and science, which is the highest possible score you can get, according to California tests.

Homie, in high school I missed over 100 days of school, over 60 my junior year. I never listened in class a single day after 9th grade. I STILL got letters from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and a whole lot more. I was in the top 3,000 brown people in the US who took the PSAT, a test I got 2 hours sleep before and didn't study a minute for. I was in a class for people who have IQs of 132 or higher. I took the test for that class in 3rd grade and scored in the 99th percentile. Nowadays its around 160, depending on which test you're askin about (scored as high as 166). Einstein's estimated IQ is 160. And that's with not even studying a day in my life. I'm takin all my classes online right now, because that leaves me free to do whatever I want the whole semester. Each class gets between 30 minutes and 1 hour, 1 day per week, and that's it. Now who's pullin who's card? HAHAHA. Some people can compete in education, but there's not too many human beings that can compete in intelligence.

You obviously have no common sense or intelligence to not even give a chance to anything that is not fed to you by the government. If they were commiting these acts, do you think they would be telling everybody? Here is a good quote to leave you with. It is the statement made by George Kennan, the Director of Policy Planning for the U.S. State Department in 1948:

"We have about 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its population. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity. To do so, we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention will have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives. We should cease to talk about vague and unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."

Fuck, my arm's tired from pullin so many ho cards.

 

[Sydal]

LOL, the only one that is PROVEN FACT is #17 and #18. Like you said, if the government committed all of these crimes, you think they would tell anybody? So where's all this proof of yours coming from? It's fucking THEORY!! NONE OF THAT SHIT IS PROVEN, NONE OF IT!! In order to have a fact, you have to have undeniable PROOF, which you have none. Ya know, I give a fuck what your IQ is...I know people with IQ's up in that area, with masters degress, who have no common sense, who can't function regularly in public settings, and believe only what they are told. So, your IQ doesn't mean shit, I could care if it is 200...here's a FACT for you. The Higher the IQ, the higher the chance that person is somewhat crazy. In fact, no, if you have a fucking IQ up there at like 160, you WOULD be so intelligent, that you would not be able to communicate with the outside world like you are doing right now. You really would be crazy, and that is not THEORY!! Einstein, crazy, antisocial, and all kinds of other shit. Rocket Scientists, crazy, antisocial. Lockheed Engineers, crazy, 99% of the time antisocial. So, if you tested for a 166, you wouldn't be sitting right here, having conversation like you are. Scientific facts kid, can't beat 'em. You'd be sitting in a corner in your room trying to figure out some kind of fucked up formula or thinking REALLY hard about SOMETHING, you would not be on here. THAT IS FACT!!

Shit, I'll gladly show you my card, it backs everything I say about myself so I give a fuck.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

LOL, the only one that is PROVEN FACT is #17 and #18. Like you said, if the government committed all of these crimes, you think they would tell anybody? So where's all this proof of yours coming from? It's fucking THEORY!! NONE OF THAT SHIT IS PROVEN, NONE OF IT!! In order to have a fact, you have to have undeniable PROOF, which you have none. Ya know, I give a fuck what your IQ is...I know people with IQ's up in that area, with masters degress, who have no common sense, who can't function regularly in public settings, and believe only what they are told. So, your IQ doesn't mean shit, I could care if it is 200...here's a FACT for you. The Higher the IQ, the higher the chance that person is somewhat crazy. In fact, no, if you have a fucking IQ up there at like 160, you WOULD be so intelligent, that you would not be able to communicate with the outside world like you are doing right now. You really would be crazy, and that is not THEORY!! Einstein, crazy, antisocial, and all kinds of other shit. Rocket Scientists, crazy, antisocial. Lockheed Engineers, crazy, 99% of the time antisocial. So, if you tested for a 166, you wouldn't be sitting right here, having conversation like you are. Scientific facts kid, can't beat 'em. You'd be sitting in a corner in your room trying to figure out some kind of fucked up formula or thinking REALLY hard about SOMETHING, you would not be on here. THAT IS FACT!!

Shit, I'll gladly show you my card, it backs everything I say about myself so I give a fuck.

First, lets separate fact from theory AGAIN. I am ONLY posting fact, NO theories:

1. The government forced David Hoffman to burn every copy of Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror book. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT HERE. IT IS A FACT.

2. There were 2 explosions in Oklahoma city, NOT ONE...FACT.

3. Chandra Levy entered Mossad headquarters in Isreael weeks before her murder is FACT

4. According to Ha'aretz, the largest circulation daily newspaper in Israel, on the day the two hijacked aircraft exploded the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, five Israelis were sighted atop a New York Manhattan building. They were working a video camera. This Israeli spy team videotaped the entire terrorist incident from start to finish. Nearby observers who clandestinely saw them were astonished to see the five men shouting joyously and jumping up and down as the explosions ripped the towers and each building collapsed.These nearby witnesses phoned the NYC police and the FBI. The FBI came and arrested the five, who turned out to be Israelis carrying false visa papers. The Ha'aretz article said the five were stripped of their clothes, incarcerated in dark jail cells, and interrogated nonstop for 13 solid hours by FBI agents. The FBI interrogators accused the five of being Israeli Mossad spy agents. THIS IS FACT.


5. Seimographic readings that show a HUGE seismographic spike at the beginning of the tower collapse and not as much later in the collapse indicate that there was an explosion, more likely from inside the building, that made the buildings collapse; FACT.

6. New Yorkers practiced for drills for 2 years leading up to the attacks and Bush said they had no idea the attacks could occur.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...-18-norad_x.htm

NORAD had drills of jets as weaponsBy Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.

7. When asked whether or not to shoot down the plane headed for the Pentagon, Cheney continually said "No." This is fact.

8. The CIA had plans to commit terrorist acts in the United States against U.S. citizens to give the country a reason to go to Cuba. This is a FACT!

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections...efs_010501.html

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

9. FBI murdered over 100 members of the American Indian Movement is FACT.

10. FBI unjustly imprisoned Leonard Peltier for speaking his mind; this is a FACT.

11. GUN cd was pulled off shelves. Gang Stories, which had no affiliation to any group, was also banned. Infringing on right to freedom of speech. FACT.

12. Goverment murdered several members of Brown Berets. This is a fact.

13. You are NOT allowed to perform religious sacrifices, burnings, etc., so we are not free to choose and engage in any religion.

14. Church and state are supposed to be separate, but president is sworn in on the Bible. Pledge of allegiance says, "One nation, under god," which is another violation which keeps religion out of schools.

15. Black Panthers were murdered by FBI agents and the police (fact).

16. The government has murdered over 500,000 in Iraq, hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan, thousands in the U.S., hundreds of thousands in Asia, and thousands throughout Latin America...FACT!

17. George W. Bush invaded Iraq based on the THEORY that they had weapons of mass destruction. He attacked BEFORE the deadline for Saddam's surrender, and without the consent of the United Nations. There are NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So, why did he invade?

18. The American government trained, armed, and funded Osama bin Laden.

19. The American government provides aid in the form of money, food, and WEAPONS to the Israelis, who have terrorized innocent Palestinians for years.

These are not theories. They are fact. Research ANYWHERE you'd like to find these FACTS.

 

[RuThLeSs RiCk]

Ya know, I give a fuck what your IQ is...I know people with IQ's up in that area, with masters degress, who have no common sense, who can't function regularly in public settings, and believe only what they are told.

I am highly anti-social, but I do not fit the other 2 traits that you stated.

So, your IQ doesn't mean shit, I could care if it is 200...here's a FACT for you. The Higher the IQ, the higher the chance that person is somewhat crazy. In fact, no, if you have a fucking IQ up there at like 160, you WOULD be so intelligent, that you would not be able to communicate with the outside world like you are doing right now. You really would be crazy, and that is not THEORY!!

If this is fact, where is your proof? Post some proof, just as I have. Did they do studies on Albert Einsten and every other person in the world with a 160 IQ? I doubt it.

Einstein, crazy, antisocial, and all kinds of other shit. Rocket Scientists, crazy, antisocial. Lockheed Engineers, crazy, 99% of the time antisocial. So, if you tested for a 166, you wouldn't be sitting right here, having conversation like you are. Scientific facts kid, can't beat 'em.

I'm definitely anti-social. I am crazy, too, but not crazy in a way that would impact what I believe.

You'd be sitting in a corner in your room trying to figure out some kind of fucked up formula or thinking REALLY hard about SOMETHING, you would not be on here. THAT IS FACT!!

So, it is a fact that everybody with a 160 IQ sits in the corner of their room all day figuring out formulas? Is there some kind of special mind power technique associated with the corner of the room? And where is here? I am in a room sitting down on a computer.

Shit, I'll gladly show you my card, it backs everything I say about myself so I give a fuck.

Like I said, college level in every category by 6th grade; letters from Harvard, Yale, Princeton & more; passed all those "difficult" tests you talked about in the same time it took other students to sharpen their pencils. Let me put it like this; the lowest IQ I could have is 132, which is the minimum for a class I was in, which is the limit for MENSA. Every test I have taken (IQ) I have scored well above 132. To be completely honest, I don't believe any test can fully determine a person's intelligence. Many of the questions are language-based. Many require foreknowledge of information that may be simple, but impossible to solve if you don't already know this information.

Here's some info on Native Americans and IQ tests:

"Fifty years ago, it was thought that American Indians had an average IQ of about 69... American Indians appear to have an average-IQ equal to approximately 100." IQ tests don't mean all that much. They test some types of intelligence, but not all. How can the average IQ for a race go up 31 points in 50 years? That means 2 things; they are biased and they are trash.

Regardless of whateverthefuck, this is not about intelligence. This is about facts, which I have provided and backed up with proof, and which you have not been able to disprove. Just admit your defeat, and we can go on to the next topic. You post and I'll prove you wrong again.