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May 2, 2002
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Tim said:


Once again I never did any of those things. So why should I deal with the repercussions? Saying I'm responsible just because I'm white is very ignorant.
When did I ever say YOU were responsible for anything? All I told you was why a group of people don't like another group of people for what that group of people did to them. For you to complain about some name calling is very selfish on your behalf when non-whites have to deal with it all the time on a much higher level. You don't have to worry about not getting hired for a job because of your skin color. If your poor, I can guarantee you it's not because your white.
 
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Originally posted by D-Style
Your being rediculed just as you did to other races over the years.

You being white people. Not you Tim the crip. You know if you feel whites are being disrespected so much and being so racially discriminated on, why don't you start up the National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) or something to that tone? I'm dead serious, if whites have it so hard in this country why don't you lead the way for them in campaign against racism on whites?
 

Tim

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See now you're just proving your ignorance and immaturity by trying to put words in my mouth. I never said whites have it hard, I just said it's not okay for whites to be called peccerwoods, craccers or anything like that. I have in the past and will in the future, fought people for using that word. I have also fought white people for using racial slurs too. I'm not one of those hypocritical people who only have a problem when their race is involved. I have a problem with ANY racial slur being used. Of course there is still racism, of course there is still discrimination but I'm not involved in any of it.
 
May 8, 2002
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D-Style said:
We aren't "laid back" and we do care about our position in this country
what i meant by laid back is compared to others we are laid back our numbers are to big to be in the position that we are in. when you here people in debates or talkshows (legit ones) all you here is black and white with hardly no mention of the brown. and i atribute that to not pushing hard enough.
 
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Tim said:
See now you're just proving your ignorance and immaturity by trying to put words in my mouth. I never said whites have it hard, I just said it's not okay for whites to be called peccerwoods, craccers or anything like that. I have in the past and will in the future, fought people for using that word. I have also fought white people for using racial slurs too. I'm not one of those hypocritical people who only have a problem when their race is involved. I have a problem with ANY racial slur being used. Of course there is still racism, of course there is still discrimination but I'm not involved in any of it.
You know what too fucking bad. Deal with it. We have the right to complain after all the shit we've been put through by this country, you don't. If whites were the ex slaves and the minorities and people really put them through hell and still are I would come to their defense just as I have for blacks & hispanics. But until that day comes your argument is not a very good one. A few racial slurs isn't shit when you look at how much more we get it. That's like the nazis crying because a jewish person called them a name. Think about it.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


what i meant by laid back is compared to others we are laid back our numbers are to big to be in the position that we are in. when you here people in debates or talkshows (legit ones) all you here is black and white with hardly no mention of the brown. and i atribute that to not pushing hard enough.
I feel you, we aren't pushing hard enough. I just thought when you said laid back that you meant we didn't care about our position in this country. I do, and I know many others that feel the same way.
 
Apr 26, 2002
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by next june i will have by BA at CSUS cla state stanislaus and i am 26
WELL........FOR SOMEONE WITH A "BA" COMIN UP YOU SHOULD PUT MORE SENSE INTO THE WORDS THAT COME FROM YOUR MOUTH....


AND CONGRATS ON THE "BA"

I HAVE MINE'S IN AVIATION MANAGEMENT AND MY WIFE'S HAS HER "BA" IN SECONDARY EDUCATION.





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Re: Re: Re: Re: DAMN-DAMN-DAMN

Mcleanhatch said:


when you here people in debates or talkshows (legit ones) all you here is black and white with hardly no mention of the brown. and i atribute that to not pushing hard enough.
That's damn correct. And don't forget Native Americans, Asians, and Middle Easterns. They are also the forgotten ones. The majority of legislation over US history has been attributed only to black and white.
 

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Tim said:
Whites were not the first race and not the only race to have slaves. Does that make it okay? Of course not but don't act like whites were the only ones doing that shit. b]


They were the only ones enslaving people in the United States.
 

SOLO

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Tim said:
See now you're just proving your ignorance and immaturity by trying to put words in my mouth. I never said whites have it hard, I just said it's not okay for whites to be called peccerwoods, craccers or anything like that.
There's a huge difference between anti-Black (for example) and so called "anti-White" terms..."nigger" has its historical roots in violence, murder, slavery, and oppression...no "derogatory" term for Whites exists that has such a bloody and cruel history.

Read the following for more insight:

http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=527

Originally posted by Tim I have a problem with ANY racial slur being used. Of course there is still racism, of course there is still discrimination but I'm not involved in any of it.
D-Style made an accurate analogy when he brought up Nazis and Jews. Think about the experience that "people of color" have had in the U.S. and then think about that of so-called "Whites." If you really understand history, I don't see how you could become so upset about terms such as "honkey" and "peckerwood." Claiming that those terms are harmful is like blaming someone for being upset after 300 years of oppression. You say you have a problem with all "racial slurs", but if you really want to fight racism in the world, I don't think White folks need your support in dealing with such words...if you want to stand for a principle, your efforts would be better spent in other areas. You may claim you have nothing to do with present discrimination/racism, but you exist in a world with power dynamics...it's time to learn about it.

Check out the article at the link above.

SOLO
 
May 8, 2002
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AdolfOliverBush said:


Do fourth grade or lower and GET THOSE KIDS READING! I believe you were responding to my other post in the Gathering of the Minds forum. It's something I'm very passionate about and I believe you are as well.
yup, either 2nd or 3rd grade
 
Apr 25, 2002
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SOLO first you say there really is no such thing as white, then you ask why a white person would get so mad at "peckerwood" (etc.). Maybe cause there nationality had absolutely nothing to do with slavory or the killing of millions of jews. In which case, those words would be more harsh to a "white" person then you would ever believe. Theres more to what youve learned about this world dude, you tell us to learn about it, you need to learn as well.
 
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D-Style said:
Man kill it with this reverse racism shit. First of all mexicans didn't enslave a race for hundreds of years so when someone talks shit about us it's very offensive, because we didn't do anything to deserve it.
WERE YOU ENSLAVED, IF NOT WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING??
 
May 2, 2002
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YUNGSTAMATT said:


WERE YOU ENSLAVED, IF NOT WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING??
What the fuck kind of question is that? NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WAS SLAVE but does that mean the millions of non-whites in this country don't care about it??? Why are organization like the naacp around, just for the hell of it? Nah there's still a lot of problems in this country with racial equality. We're still feeling the reprecussions of it buddy and we're still opressed. For a person who claims to be an "antioch norteno" you sure seem oblivious to what hispanics in this country have to deal with. But seeing that your white and most of the nortenos in antioch are white I wouldn't think you would understand. Keep your simple ass questions to yourself.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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SHUT UP. I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION. I DIDNT REALIZE YOU COULDNT ANSWER IT IN A MATURE MANNER.

WHY ARE YALL GETTING HURT OVER WORDS IN A SONG? NO, IT AINT RIGHT....... BUT C'MON QUIT CRYING.


AS FAR AS MOST NORTENOS IN ANTIOCH ARE WHITE. MAYBE. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THO.......IS IT SOMETHING YOU "HEARD"???? LOL!!