SAND f.k.a. MR. SANDMAN "SUBPOENA" **UPDATED COVER**

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FROM A DESIGNERS PERSPECTIVE I AGREE WITH ESSQUBED ON THE BLAND COMMENT. I WOULD COMPLETELY REPLACE THE TEXT. C-4 I SEEN SOME BETTER WORK FROM YOU.

AS FAR AS SAND GOES.... I WAS DIGGIN THE SHIT OUT OF MR. SANDMAN. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A DOPE ASS NAME. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND THE CHANGE.

REGARDLESS I'M DIGGIN THE MUSIC & CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THIS.

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Hahaha!! Look at these other designers hatin on the best designer in the bay!! Dont hate congradulate!! Dope cover C-4!! Cant wait to see my shit when we get started on it!! And yes "Sand" will bring heat on this album!! GOT EM!!!
 
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CZAR said:
Hahaha!! Look at these other designers hatin on the best designer in the bay!! Dont hate congradulate!
Yeah I know...on the internet honesty always equals hate. I refuse to pour sugar & nuts on some doo-doo & call it Snickers.

Congratulations, the cover could be better. I pitched my 2 cents so he could maybe take it up another notch...period.

Much success to Sand & the project...that's what it's all about anyway.

Regards
 

MR. CLEEN

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Any designer who don't feel it, keep the comments to ya self. The cover wasn't put up for your two cents, just so you know the current events regarding the project. I felt a lil hate in the comments myself and as much copy cat work (Wanna Be Shemps) I see from graphic artist I'll leave unnamed, they should be the last to talk.. I've seen work from others, and trust yall covers are far from perfect, but hopefully nobody needs to tell yall that, plus I don't see C-4 givin unneeded critism so be easy... If you aint got nuthin good to say, you know the rest... Git at me if there is any other discussions needed.
 
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MR. CLEEN said:
The cover wasn't put up for your two cents, just so you know the current events regarding the project
2 cents are always given on these boards whether they were asked for or not...I've been a victim of it too...I take it in stride & keep breathin...I would expect others would too...I wouldn't get no better if all I heard was "that's laced"...shit...tell me when my shit could be better so I can take it to the next...but anyway...

Check ya PMs comrade

Regards
 
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CZAR said:
Hahaha!! Look at these other designers hatin on the best designer in the bay!! Dont hate congradulate!! Dope cover C-4!! Cant wait to see my shit when we get started on it!! And yes "Sand" will bring heat on this album!! GOT EM!!!
MR. CLEEN said:
Any designer who don't feel it, keep the comments to ya self. The cover wasn't put up for your two cents, just so you know the current events regarding the project. I felt a lil hate in the comments myself and as much copy cat work (Wanna Be Shemps) I see from graphic artist I'll leave unnamed, they should be the last to talk.. I've seen work from others, and trust yall covers are far from perfect, but hopefully nobody needs to tell yall that, plus I don't see C-4 givin unneeded critism so be easy... If you aint got nuthin good to say, you know the rest... Git at me if there is any other discussions needed.
THERE WAS NO HATE IN MY COMMENT, JUST A SUGGESTION. AINT NOBODY PERFECT & AINT NOBODY THE BEST AT ANYTHING, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE BETTER. I RESPECT WHAT C-4 IS DOING TO THE FULLEST & AM GIVING MY OPINION TO HELP EXCEL A FELLOW ARTIST. I WOULD EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO DO THE SAME TO ME OUT OF COURTESY. IF I POSTED SOMETHING THAT WASNT UP TO PAR I WOULD HOPE EVERYONE WOULD KEEP IT REAL WITH ME & TELL ME IF THEY WERENT DIGGIN IT CAUSE I AINT GONNA FRONT WHEN I AINT FEELING SOMETHING. ESSQUBED ALWAYS GIVES ME CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISM WHEN I POST MY WORK & I DO THE SAME. I RESPECT HIM FOR THAT CAUSE ON THE REAL HE ONE OF THE ONLY CATS WHO KEEPS IT REAL WITH ME. I NEVER TAKE IT AS HATE BUT USE IT TO HELP ME GROW.

BUT REGARDLESS KEEP GRINDING

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May 29, 2002
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damn, if the people on this board who pretty much love bay rap aint feelin something like a cover, then you know it isnt good. You should be happy to hear the criticism. people for the most part aint gonna buy an album from someone they aint really ever heard of if the cover doesnt look right.

If a bunch of people think the writing doesnt look right, then you NEED to change it, plain and simple. If you dont, then you are LOSING sales. Plain and simple.

I havent seen any criticism on this post that wasnt helpful for the most part.
 

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first of all Essqubed or whatever, I take all criticism, good and bad, and I learn from it, I don't get butt hurt and I don't cry, cuz I am makin moves, I just don't come on the boards and boast it all the time....that's fine u wanna give your opinion, thanks for that, but when u wanna come back with some little hater bullshit and say u aint gonna speak good on some "doo doo" to try to make it look good, that's un called for. I ain't never spoke down on none of your work dude, if I wasn't feelin it I kept my comments to myself, cuz I don't talk down on another man's work or hustle, but I have also given you positive feedback on some of your work. don't come up in here all high and mighty. No I am not the best graphic designer out there, all though I do appreciate the compliment paid by Czar, but I have been doin it for a minute and I do think I do good work and many others agree with me.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE: IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE CLIENT THINKS AND LIKES. And Sand, and everyone at Get Gone Records likes this cover, along with several people outside the camp that have seen it, including Willie Hen among others.

And Mac Pacino, u aint lyin, like I've told u before, I give shemp all the respect in the world for comin in and changin the game, but there are wayyyyyy too many Shemp cock suckers on here, get your own fuckin styles, do what u do and stop tryin to critique other people's shit for not all lookin the same. PERIOD.

Like I said, one luv for all the responses, this wasn't meant to be about some artwork discussion, it was meant to promote Sand's upcoming album. So leave it at that.
 
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C-4 said:
when u wanna come back with some little hater bullshit and say u aint gonna speak good on some "doo doo" to try to make it look good, that's un called for.
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I was simply stating that I was not going to sugar coat anything, I was not implying that your design was "shit". You have some coo work & as long as your client is pleased with it then you've done your job.

Regards
 

MR. CLEEN

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UNLESS SAND ASK FOR MORE CHANGES, THERES NUTHIN TO CHANGE.... SOME GONE LOVE IT, SOME GONE HATE IT, LONG AS YOU REPSECT IT...
 

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Mac youre exactly right, in this music shit, NOBODY CAN PLEASE EVERYBODY, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE, NEVER HAS BEEN DONE, NEVER WILL BE DONE, everybody has there likes and dislikes, and tha's a beautiful thing, long as the client is happy, tha's all that matters.
 

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Yo baygiants aint shit gonna change mane!! Who gives a fuck if u dont like the font, dont buy the album if u aint gonna buy it cause u dont like the font!! Thats some funny shit!! Like muthafuckas pic up and look at a cd and say "its probably tight, but the title font aint coo so fuck it"!! hahahah!! Try again mane!! Nonetheless Sand comin with heat whether his title was in egypt font!! Dont matter!! GOT EM!!!
 
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I am feeling the cover art. C4 keeps shit simple, and to the point. As much as I love a cover with 20 foot tall bottles of champagne, diamonds, and pinneapples all over, I wish more cats would simplify their artwork and just go for some clean shit.

Less is more....FOLD.
 
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just to clarify. I like the cover, just about everything about it except for the way subpoena is written is clean as fuck. I would recommend that you make the way subpoena is written more similar to the way SAND is written.

I was mainly referring to what mac pacino said about people shouldnt criticize shit unless asked for it. all I am saying is constructive criticism shouldnt have to be asked for, it should jsut be allowed. this aint kindergarten. In addition, when someone does give up some constructive criticism, they should be thanked not called a hater and shit. If you ignore the fans, then you are LOSING SALES. Why do you think large companies pay tons of money for focus groups. you should feel lucky that you got what is essentially a free focus group here at the siccness.
 

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U mean a free hatin group!! Naw everyone dont hate, but some do!! And like I said if u feelin the whole cover except 1 peticular font, and then u say that would make u not buy the album because of it, then that is some silly shit!! But to each is own!! If yall pass on buyin any Get Gone product then u will be the one losin out, not Get Gone!! GOT EM!!!
 
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It aint gonna stop me from buyin it. but if I am in the store and see something that I dont know much about and it dont look good, then I sure as hell aint gonna buy it.

obviously some people are always gonna hate, but for the most part, people are just tryin to help.
 

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@ baygiants

@ BayGiants... Have you heard of the word Tact.... Look it up. It's somethin alot more cats on this board should try to use instead of having to defend your comments when somebody git at you about them. When you lack respect for somethin, you feel you can say anything at any time. This aint no art forum where we post pics for feed back. This the B.A.R.T forum where we update the fans and peers alike about what's comin next. If you giving your opinion when nobody asked you for it, then it aint constructive criticism. Really that's what the PM is for if you really felt what you had to say would help the cat. When you put it out there for everybody to see, some cats gone feel you, but I bet you more cats gone take it the wrong way, but like I said if you could care less, just imagine if C-4 could really care less about your opinion... Opinions are like Assholes, everybody has one... If a person won't buy a album because of the Font, then somebody else will.

Oh and since you brought up major labels, something I know a lil about. Check there covers and see if they don't have the most simple covers on the face of the planet. They aint sellin artwork, they sellin music and image... Don't beleive Sprite, cause Image "IS" everything...