San Diego Shows....."Whats really going on"?

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Apr 12, 2005
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As I sit and reflect and try and digest all the information that I read on these boards, hear out in the streets, and my years of life experience I started thinking about the Dago rap scene. Why has it never really takin off? Some say that the city sits in the shadows of L.A., and in some respect i can understand because rappers from Jersey have said the same thing about New York. Some say because of all the Gang Bangin, and to a point I can understand that, but there is, and always has been funk that can be traced back in time to rappers in New york and they never let it stand in the way, and rappers in L.A. have seemed to make it. Some say only gangsta rap gets attention and lyricists and hip hoppers play the background...I say ' Cry me a river" this is a gangsta rap site those views should be taken somewhere else..like DUBCNN.Ive even heard on more then one occasion that majority of artists etc in Dago in the past was set in their own ways as far as the business, and had zero to little understanding to how it works elsewhere, and passed the lack of knowledge down and poor business practice which can still be seen today. many people want to ride a movement, which really has never really worked anywhere else. Maybe some artists want to piggy back on other artists with real talent
Why is it so hard to create a rap scene in the second biggest cities in Cali, and 8 biggest in the United States. If we combine the population of Southern California the total is over 23 million people, i would think that there is a good chance some of those people like rap music.
What would be a realistic number when setting a goal of getting a fan base. With over 1.2 million people in San Diego alone would 5000 be too big? If a small local label put out 3 projects a year with a fan base of 5000 faithful fans would be $150,000 if they only sold those c.d's to them fans at $10 a piece. i personally believe some artists complicate this by not understanding who their initial market to target is, and are trying to cater to such a larger market that with out a major label push or money will not work. Some arists are lazi, some are just morons.
So now we arrive at what i was thinking...these shows. Now Crhymes and Jimmy powers and others who practice the trade of setting up shows aint mad at ya making money ( breakin even). I think that what is happening is not good for the Dago rap scene at all, at least in the long run. The bigger and more exciting the scene get's the more attention it gets the better it is for all.
So you bring artists that was big back in the early 90's shit that was nearly 15 years ago since they was really makin noise, but I understand they still have a fan base. So you pay these artists to come to town and do shows as they promote their new album, and you aqquire these means by selling slots...So basically anyone who comes with some money is performin..so you have a headline that has a has been artist featuring LIL LIMPER LEG, and Skippy P. So short term your doin shows getting some recognition, but the most people can say is that so and so came to town, not trippin off the opening acts. So the artist gets paid bounces back OT and the money does not circulate back in the rap scene in Dago. (which is important)
So why aint you going to Artists like Mitchy, Irocc, or even Smigg who are actually makin some moves, and could use more local support. They actually have great sounding music with both local and mainstream appeal, the better the shows get locally the more demand for local music, which equals sales, and more money being invested back in the Dago rap scene....
 
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I kan dig it 50. Circulation is key. I'll be puttin on a few more San Diego based shows in the near future. Right now I'm working on my album "Lifestyles of a Hustler" 06.02.09, a Young Mass project (Fifth), a few Play B projects, Fore's mixtape and Album, and a project with T-Twise. So be on the lookout my dude.... email [email protected]

Oh be on the lookout for the Daygo based compilation, One Hundred Percent Hustle Vol. 2 Fall 2009 all tracks produced by me (BeatsByKayo) and Young Mass aka Fifth (Massterpiece ENT) all dropping under On Fyre Entertainment
 
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The Urban Underground Shows aren't all me, It was something that was going to down at static lounge every Thursday with the homegirl from LA....There was the shooting at the last one @ Static and that was a wrap...I talked with her for months to bring it back a finally convinced her to do a monthly with me doing all the footwork (Flyers, Meeting with the Artist, all that)...they are just good shows, not all old timers though (haha..) we generally bring the more Underground/Indie Hip Hop Artist....Killah Priest, Planet Asia, Copywrite, Living Legends, Heiro, crews and MC along that line, she did a show with Strong Arm Steady @ Static Lounge and we opened....I did alot of local show case type events, and would mix up different types of artist and they just didn't work out to well (I put all types of crews on stage from Dubie & Halon to Anti-Citizens, Formual Abstract to Riccashay...alot of people just don't put in the work all the time..and promo it...so I would end up eating the cost for the flyers and all that....plus you take chances and people talk like they will bring out 25 heads every show but they show up with 2 homies that got MC names that don't spit...I did like 20 shows last year like that and just never got the support from anyone so I had to cut it out..cause I was basically promoting the shows by myself...as far as working with Mitchy, Smigg and artist like that...I am wit it all...they just really aren't in my world and I don't bump into them in the work I get involved with, but I am not close minded to any of it...people in SD that are making moves that I work with cause of the music I am involved with is Deep Rooted, DJ Demon, Blame One, House of Rep, Big Left, ...all are highly relevant in SD Hip Hop...alot of people on the Siccness may deem me or Clay Pigeons as irrelevant cause my music may sound different from what is usually on here but in all actuallity I feel I play a decent part when it comes to all the lyrical,boom bap type hip hop that has a huge following in this city...Clay Pigeon gets to open for alot of big artist, we bring alot of people out to the shows and don't charge cats to perform, cause we do it on the strength to get these shows cracking....there is alot of seperation with the different genres, cause if it ain't your shit it gets left alone, take for example MC Flow...she consistently packs show...sells records and merch, gets booked for festivals and all that, but I don't listen to that type of hip hop...but she is still doing her thing and getting her recognition and oppurtunitys....bottom line I will work with anyone, as long is there and equal plane...I am all about Unity and Forward progress and if Mitch or Smigg were to roll out to a show I organize and throw and ask me about involving them on something, I am 100% with it...I know there is prolly cats in the underground world that would bump Mitchy, but just haven't found themselves in the position to listen to his tunes or see him on a stage....its all a matter of discretion....none of the indie/emo/scenster kids that may come see a copywrite show aren't gonna mob to the San Diego Sports Bar for a Lunchmeat show (seen him at Dreamstreet dude is nice), and the same can be said about some homies from South East posted in the corner at the Kava Lounge sipping a Hibiscus and Vodka knodding out to The Grouch & Eligh....I just try to contribute to the entire scene the best I can and know how....I think that people on the sicness that may not know Copywrite or C-Rayz Walz may come see them and be like them dudes are Nice.....
 
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"Too Many Emcees Not Enough Mics" The result "RAPPERS ARE NOW VIABLE CONSUMERS" So with that said I had to give Jimmy Powers props for the business model he is using his model brings people. He's not tryna be a savage wit it either he's tryna be fair. But, If people wanna sell opening acts and force people to watch some bullshit I aint comin until I know the headliner is on, if I get there too early I'm steppin outside or at the bar until its time for me to see what I want. You will not hold me hostage to some bullshit opening act that paid for the slot. The best money for a promoter is Hip Hop not Gangster Rap unless you messing with a big name like E40, Mitchy Slick, Game, Etc. in Daygo. Why, because they will bring in a mixed crowd that wants to listen to the music and drink they asses off. That's why Del the Funky Homosapien and them pack promoters pockets. White people love that shit. Big names cost up and coming promoters too much money so they have to book what they can get. That becomes a gamble because you don't know if they can pack the house. You pay an artist $2500 and three people show up they gonna look at you like point seen money gone. We not even talking about the other expenses. It takes money to make money. Cats in Daygo be givin out their CDs. That's like a hoe lettin a trick fuck her for free in hopes that the pussy will be so good next time he'll pay. that makes no business sense to me. I can see snippets that's a marketing tool. But then again rappers these days is more like tricks than hoes. Talk it, sell it, if they don't like it point seen money gone. If you puttin out trash you'll lose in the long run. I think on a Daygo model Mitchy Slick did good. Solid CD, snippets put out first, marketing off the hook, and networking until the wheels fall off. He's the only one to be on all them underground Dvds hitting from Cross Country Pimpin to Hood2Hood. Shit look how them polticians do it when they want to be president. All the democrats jump in and go at each other, finally a victor is chosen and they all have to get on the bandwagon to push that mothafuckah to the top. That's the American way so I understand why all yall niggas that's trash is tryna be rappers. But when a mothafucka gets the crown people have too much pride to push that shit and see how its gonna help them in the long run. You’d rather be president then Secretary of State. They would rather dilute shit and keep shit on some Joe Blow level. What is Daygo what sets Daygo apart in Cali? Mothahfuckas aint marketing that. We got shit on LA. It's hound city (That's marketable if you a blood or crip), right next to the border, hoein at outrageous levels (white city white hoes), we got more indian casinos then any other place in America, and all that other abomidable shit we do in the name of the All Mighty Dollar. Ninjas need to fall in line they fuckin up the cadence.
 
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Plain and simple san diego artist have no consistency or business about themselves. I just watched the biggie movie and i really got to see that biggie wouldn't have been shit without puffy. No matter how good he was. Puffy was the business. San diego artist should learn something from that....
 
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I DONT KNOW BOUT YALL, BUT ALL THE SHOWS I'VE THROWN AND HELPED PUT TOGETHER HAVE BEEN GOOD SHOWS. EVEN IF WE JUST BROKE EVEN, THE EXPERIANCE IS GREAT. I DONT BOOK A MILLION OPENING ACTS OR TRY TO HOLD FOLKS ''HOSTAGE'' TILL THE HEADLINER SHOWS UP AND SO WHUT IF I CHARGE FOR OPENING SLOTS. THE VENUE, PROMOTION AND MAJOR ARTIST AINT GON' PAY THEY SELVES. I JUST STARTED BOOKIN SHOWS MYSELF CUZ PROMOTERS ARE SHADY. AND I DONT GOT MONEY TO BE SPENDING ON A BOOKING AGENT THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT GET ME THE SHOWS I NEED. I HAVE THE CONNECTS TO VENUES AND BIG NAME ARTIST, SO WTF? WHY NOT DO IT MY DAMN SELF?? WHY NOT TRY TO PUT OTHERS ONTO BIG SHOWS AND HELP CONTRIBUTE TO DAGOS RAP SCENE?? I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHUT IM DOIN. AND AS FAR AS PUTTIN LOCAL ACTS ON AS HEADLINERS.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT TOO. I DONT KNOW IF U REMEBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE USED TO THROW THE ''MIC CHECK'' CONCERT SERIOUS ALONG WITH MY DUDE BIG DADDY AND EVERY MONTH WE WOULD HEADLINE A NOTIBLE LOCAL ARTIST LIKE MITCH, THE ICONS, CUZZIN ICE, ECAY AND OF COARSE THA COR JUST TO NAME A FEW. THOSE SHOWS WERE COO, TILL THEY STARTED GETTING SHOT THE FUCK UP. SO WE HAD TO PULL THE PLUG ON THAT FOR A BIT. WE'LL SEE IF WE BRING IT BACK OR NOT. BUT WE MIGHT ADD MITCH TO THIS MISTAH FAB SHOW ON THE 31ST AS WELL. I'LL KEEP YALL POSTED AS I ALWAYS DO. LOVE IT OR HATE IT, IMMA KEEP PUSHIN.
 
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I DONT KNOW BOUT YALL, BUT ALL THE SHOWS I'VE THROWN AND HELPED PUT TOGETHER HAVE BEEN GOOD SHOWS. EVEN IF WE JUST BROKE EVEN, THE EXPERIANCE IS GREAT. I DONT BOOK A MILLION OPENING ACTS OR TRY TO HOLD FOLKS ''HOSTAGE'' TILL THE HEADLINER SHOWS UP AND SO WHUT IF I CHARGE FOR OPENING SLOTS. THE VENUE, PROMOTION AND MAJOR ARTIST AINT GON' PAY THEY SELVES. I JUST STARTED BOOKIN SHOWS MYSELF CUZ PROMOTERS ARE SHADY. AND I DONT GOT MONEY TO BE SPENDING ON A BOOKING AGENT THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT GET ME THE SHOWS I NEED. I HAVE THE CONNECTS TO VENUES AND BIG NAME ARTIST, SO WTF? WHY NOT DO IT MY DAMN SELF?? WHY NOT TRY TO PUT OTHERS ONTO BIG SHOWS AND HELP CONTRIBUTE TO DAGOS RAP SCENE?? I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHUT IM DOIN. AND AS FAR AS PUTTIN LOCAL ACTS ON AS HEADLINERS.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT TOO. I DONT KNOW IF U REMEBER ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE USED TO THROW THE ''MIC CHECK'' CONCERT SERIOUS ALONG WITH MY DUDE BIG DADDY AND EVERY MONTH WE WOULD HEADLINE A NOTIBLE LOCAL ARTIST LIKE MITCH, THE ICONS, CUZZIN ICE, ECAY AND OF COARSE THA COR JUST TO NAME A FEW. THOSE SHOWS WERE COO, TILL THEY STARTED GETTING SHOT THE FUCK UP. SO WE HAD TO PULL THE PLUG ON THAT FOR A BIT. WE'LL SEE IF WE BRING IT BACK OR NOT. BUT WE MIGHT ADD MITCH TO THIS MISTAH FAB SHOW ON THE 31ST AS WELL. I'LL KEEP YALL POSTED AS I ALWAYS DO. LOVE IT OR HATE IT, IMMA KEEP PUSHIN.
YOURE FORGETTING THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A SHOW WHICH IS TO PROMOTE YOUR PRODUCT....NIGGAS JUS DONT DO SHOWS FOR NUTHIN... AND IF YOURE BRINGIN ALL THESE ACTS OUT HERE AND AINT MAKIN NO BIG MONEY TO ME THATS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT YOU COULDVE SPENT THAT MONEY ON YOUR MUSIC INSTEAD N POSSIBLY WOULDVE WENT FURTHER OR REALIZED THAT THIS GAME AINT FOR YOU.... ALL YOURE DOIN REALLY IS TRYIN TO LOOK LIKE YOURE JUST AS BIG AS THESE BIG ACTS BUT IT AINT THE CASE...NIGGAS GET ADDICTED TO BEING IN FRONT OF THE CROWD AND RAPPIN WHEN THEY DONT EVEN KNO HOW TO EVEN DO A REAL SHOW OR MC (MC MEANS MOVE THA CROWD)MAN ITS SCARY I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY BECUZ IF IT AINT PUTTIN NO MONEY IN YA POCKET THEN Y U DOIN IT?? IF IT DONT MAKE DOLLARS IT DONT MAKE SENSE....NO DISRESPECT BUT ME PERSONALLY ID RATHER GET MY ARTISTS PAID TO DO SHOWS AND DO SHOWS WHERE PEOPLE KNO THE SONGS...THATS HOW YOURE SUPPOSE TO DO IT
 
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YOURE FORGETTING THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A SHOW WHICH IS TO PROMOTE YOUR PRODUCT....NIGGAS JUS DONT DO SHOWS FOR NUTHIN... AND IF YOURE BRINGIN ALL THESE ACTS OUT HERE AND AINT MAKIN NO BIG MONEY TO ME THATS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT YOU COULDVE SPENT THAT MONEY ON YOUR MUSIC INSTEAD N POSSIBLY WOULDVE WENT FURTHER OR REALIZED THAT THIS GAME AINT FOR YOU.... ALL YOURE DOIN REALLY IS TRYIN TO LOOK LIKE YOURE JUST AS BIG AS THESE BIG ACTS BUT IT AINT THE CASE...NIGGAS GET ADDICTED TO BEING IN FRONT OF THE CROWD AND RAPPIN WHEN THEY DONT EVEN KNO HOW TO EVEN DO A REAL SHOW OR MC (MC MEANS MOVE THA CROWD)MAN ITS SCARY I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY BECUZ IF IT AINT PUTTIN NO MONEY IN YA POCKET THEN Y U DOIN IT?? IF IT DONT MAKE DOLLARS IT DONT MAKE SENSE....NO DISRESPECT BUT ME PERSONALLY ID RATHER GET MY ARTISTS PAID TO DO SHOWS AND DO SHOWS WHERE PEOPLE KNO THE SONGS...THATS HOW YOURE SUPPOSE TO DO IT

IM NOT SAYING I DONT MAKE MONEY, BUT SOMETIME A MOTHAFUCKA BREAKS EVEN, THATS ALL. I DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF MAKING THANGS HAPPEN IN THE TOWN AND FOR THE LOVE OF DOING SHOWS NOT JUST FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. MAYBE THAT IS WRONG IS YALLS EYES, BUT I DONT THINK SO. ANY WAYS, TODAY U GOTTA BE MORE THAN JUST A RAPPER TO MAKE CHEESE IN THE GAME. I JUST WASNT MAKING ENUFF SELLIN CD'S SO A MUTHAFUCKA HAD TO ADAPT AND STEP HIS GAME UP, YA DIG?
 
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IM NOT SAYING I DONT MAKE MONEY, BUT SOMETIME A MOTHAFUCKA BREAKS EVEN, THATS ALL. I DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF MAKING THANGS HAPPEN IN THE TOWN AND FOR THE LOVE OF DOING SHOWS NOT JUST FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. MAYBE THAT IS WRONG IS YALLS EYES, BUT I DONT THINK SO. ANY WAYS, TODAY U GOTTA BE MORE THAN JUST A RAPPER TO MAKE CHEESE IN THE GAME. I JUST WASNT MAKING ENUFF SELLIN CD'S SO A MUTHAFUCKA HAD TO ADAPT AND STEP HIS GAME UP, YA DIG?
Nobody makes money off cds.. not even the big names.. they make they money off ringtones, downloads,etc. and most important shows.. they go on tours and get paid each show.. thas what im sayin.. i mean if youre breakin even then thats not a good business move... but we all learn that as we go i aint faultin you in that im jus sayin that money u could possibly invest in somethin else that will further u to the point to where ur getting paid for shows... i aint knockin what u doin but i feel that its a waste if i were to do it tho.. especially if im not getting paid..
 
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Nobody makes money off cds.. not even the big names.. they make they money off ringtones, downloads,etc. and most important shows.. they go on tours and get paid each show.. thas what im sayin.. i mean if youre breakin even then thats not a good business move... but we all learn that as we go i aint faultin you in that im jus sayin that money u could possibly invest in somethin else that will further u to the point to where ur getting paid for shows... i aint knockin what u doin but i feel that its a waste if i were to do it tho.. especially if im not getting paid..
I FEEL WHUT U SAYIN MY DUDE. AND THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE FROM UR POINT OF VIEW, BUT MOST THE TIME WE DO MAKE SOME CHIPS, BUT BREAKING EVEN IS JUST THE RISK A MUTHAFUCKA GOTTA TAKE SOMETIMES.. I REMEMBER THE FIRST BIG SHOW I PUT ON A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I DIDNT EVEN BREAK EVEN. I TOOK A FAT ASS LOSS. THEN THE NEXT ONE I LEARNED MORE BOUT THE SHOW GAME AND I CAME CLOSER TO ALMOST BREAKING EVEN. THEN NOW I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE NOW I MAKE PROPHET OR AT LEAST BREAK EVEN. ITS ALL WORK IN PROGRESS. AND YEAH THA COR DO BE GETTIN PAID TO DO SHOWS OFF THE THE FACT THAT FOLKS ALWAYS SEE US BEING ACTIVE IN THE TOWN WITH THE BIG SHOWS. JUST RECENTLY WE WERE FLOWN TO AZ FOR A PAID GIG BECUZ OF ALL THE SHOW WE DO. TRUE IT WAS ONLY A FEW HUNNED $$$ THAT WE SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE BUT IT WAS SOMETHING. SO I DONT THINK ITS BAD BIZZNESS AT ALL. PLUS NOW THE BUZZ IS GETTING OUT AND BIG ARTIST CONTACT TO ME ABOUT PUTTIN A SHOW ON. SO THE CONTACTS IM MAKING ARE PRICELESS IN MY EYES.
 
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boom bap type hip hop that has a huge following in this city...
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that's one major thing you may be overlooking when searching for the reason san diego's rap scene has a hard time getting off the ground. the sector of san diego that wants to hear some real gangsta shit is minute (and i aint talkin about time).
san diego is much more interested in super commercial main stream music and backpack hip hop. everybody is so stuck on duplicating mitchy and jayos success. but even them two niggaz aint really made it. mitchy still has a shot cuz his network seems to be constantly growing. but he aint gettin no younger either.
 
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@ CHRYMES: First and Formost I wanna say that anyone who says that you are not a factor in the San Diego Rap scene would be lyin. You are a factor and I never even heard you rap, nor am I interested in hearing you rap. The fact that you have Lazie Bone photoshoped onto a flyer like you guys really were chillin at a photoshoot just doesn't do it for me. That's not the point. You are in the top 5% for marketing. Not graphic design nor is your graphic designer. With that said you are on your way to bein one of the biggest forces in promotions and booking. Your like the energizer bunny. You have mastered the art of branding. so I say to myself, I know damn near everybody in this "local" industry if you ask them your name they are gonna know it. Why have I not run into one fan of yours? I do believe you book shows because your networking ability is marvelous. But it "seems" that your strength is in everything but your product. Why do mothafuckas have so much of an ego that they will use their true talents in search of fame knowing they gonna get us clount instead of using that to push a hella talented rapper with no means to put his product out. This is not just about you, but you have the thick skin to take shit. You stand by your shit right or wrong. Your stubborn though. Take for instance you put that pressin money, callabo money, show booking savvy, internet pushing savy, etc etc into a tight ass rapper like Likwit. You get a real graphic designer and push that shit with the passion you push your shit. You have one of them "fine azz hoes" you say loves the COR answering phones and taking messages. You would have an unstoppable buzz. You would be infuckwitable. You be their biggest fan instead of your own biggest fan. Instead you wanna be a fuckin rapper. WHY?? If you love to rap why can't that be your hobbie you share with your friends and use your GOD GIVEN TALENTS to take this shit to the next level. This is a sincere question: Do you honestly think you are part of the problem or the solution!
 
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@ CHRYMES: First and Formost I wanna say that anyone who says that you are not a factor in the San Diego Rap scene would be lyin. You are a factor and I never even heard you rap, nor am I interested in hearing you rap. The fact that you have Lazie Bone photoshoped onto a flyer like you guys really were chillin at a photoshoot just doesn't do it for me. That's not the point. You are in the top 5% for marketing. Not graphic design nor is your graphic designer.
lol. thats grimmie.
 
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Wow parapgrahs on San Diego shows. Maybe if we had a review of a show as long 50 cals post, then the San Diego scene would flourish. Anybody ever thought of starting a band. Ill play the ViBra Slap and the Triangle.
 
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@50cal:

that's one major thing you may be overlooking when searching for the reason san diego's rap scene has a hard time getting off the ground. the sector of san diego that wants to hear some real gangsta shit is minute (and i aint talkin about time).
san diego is much more interested in super commercial main stream music and backpack hip hop. everybody is so stuck on duplicating mitchy and jayos success. but even them two niggaz aint really made it. mitchy still has a shot cuz his network seems to be constantly growing. but he aint gettin no younger either.
Yeah i realize that as well, I was just stating that this site is a GANGSTA RAP Website, and some forget it..My true feelin ...well let me start another post...
 
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@ CHRYMES: First and Formost I wanna say that anyone who says that you are not a factor in the San Diego Rap scene would be lyin. You are a factor and I never even heard you rap, nor am I interested in hearing you rap. The fact that you have Lazie Bone photoshoped onto a flyer like you guys really were chillin at a photoshoot just doesn't do it for me. That's not the point. You are in the top 5% for marketing. Not graphic design nor is your graphic designer. With that said you are on your way to bein one of the biggest forces in promotions and booking. Your like the energizer bunny. You have mastered the art of branding. so I say to myself, I know damn near everybody in this "local" industry if you ask them your name they are gonna know it. Why have I not run into one fan of yours? I do believe you book shows because your networking ability is marvelous. But it "seems" that your strength is in everything but your product. Why do mothafuckas have so much of an ego that they will use their true talents in search of fame knowing they gonna get us clount instead of using that to push a hella talented rapper with no means to put his product out. This is not just about you, but you have the thick skin to take shit. You stand by your shit right or wrong. Your stubborn though. Take for instance you put that pressin money, callabo money, show booking savvy, internet pushing savy, etc etc into a tight ass rapper like Likwit. You get a real graphic designer and push that shit with the passion you push your shit. You have one of them "fine azz hoes" you say loves the COR answering phones and taking messages. You would have an unstoppable buzz. You would be infuckwitable. You be their biggest fan instead of your own biggest fan. Instead you wanna be a fuckin rapper. WHY?? If you love to rap why can't that be your hobbie you share with your friends and use your GOD GIVEN TALENTS to take this shit to the next level. This is a sincere question: Do you honestly think you are part of the problem or the solution!
HONESTY, I THINK IM PART OF THE SOLUTION. I DONT CLAIM TO BE THE ''ONE'' BUT I KNOW I HAVE PUT IN MAJOR WORK IN THIS CITY I LOVE SO MUCH. WHUT OTHER ARTIST U KNOW THAT HAS HIS OWN INTERNET RADIO STATION ( WWW.DAGOSD.COM ) THAT CATERS TO LOCAL TALENT FOR FREE I MAY ADD, WHUT OTHER ARTIST U KNOW CONSTANLY BRINGS THE TOWN MAJOR SHOWS, WHUT OTHER ARTIST U KNOW JUGGLES ALL THESE THINGS EVEN WHEN PEOPLE BE LIKE ''FUCK THAT CAT, HE THINKS HE RUNS SHIT''??? AND TO ANSWER UR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT WHY I DONT PUT ALL MY HUSTLE BEHIND PUSHING ANOTHER ARTIST IS CUZZ I AINT NO RECORD LABEL, IM JUST TRYING TO DO ME WHILE HELPING OTHERS ALONG THE WAY. I DIDNT START BOOKING SHOW AND MARKETING FOR NOTHING. NO ONE WAS PUSHING ME, SO I DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. MAYBE U SHOULD CHECK OUT OUR MUSIC HOMIE, INSTEAD OF JUDJING IT ON SOME LIL PHOTOSHOP PIC I PUT TOGETHER. AND YES I DO THE GRAPHICS AS WELL AS BUILD WEBSITES TOO. IM CONSTANTLY WORKING ON WAYS TO BE WELL ROUNDED AND SELF SUFFICIANT. BUT LIKE I SAID, PEEP THE MUSIC BEFORE U SAY I SHOULD GIVE IT UP AND DO IT AS A HOBBY. WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THACOR619 I RESPECT UR OPINION AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FOR REALS G.
 
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In Closing

In closing I think as Dave mentioned artists need to realize rap music how it is consumed, marketed,how we once knew it is over.......I'm glad too cause maybe some so called artists will move on to something else. On a positive note I believe this opens the doors for all artists on the local or regional market to create a fan base regardless if you are a backpacker, gangsta, Lyricist...Aint no one can take that away from you. I feel that mainly besides technology,(internet, DL), economics, why rap is where its at...is the biggest consumers of rap music white people moved on...( not to say all) shit even many black and Latinos like other kinds of music more.
This in my opinion comes down to culture in the rap scene..it is no longer fresh, and to many of the masses being young means following trends with clothing, music etc. This can be seen with Rap from the 80's kurtis blow, Kool Moe Dee etc....late 80's Gangsta rap, mobb deep Nas, late 90's crunk, 2000 and on ...more of the mainstream. Every sound had its day...the hip hop culture in my opinion went in such a direction that it sometimes contradicts its essence...
like making songs for the mainstream...which ultamitely is how rappers get paid. When I first fell in love with rap..it wasn't just about the music, it embodied my whole life, being young, attitude, fashion, battling after classes, breakin, graffitti. Although many of them elements still exist, though its been changed from a way of living life, to a consumable product that we use when we want..
San Diego lacks that culture, the talent is there, the market is there...this is why it is important (In my opinion) to 1. Always be yourself. and create a buzz which may help build a culture or at least a big hip hop scene....shit if you cant build a fan base in your back yard...no need to focus any further.
C-hrymes...I think most of us respect what you doin, and believe you got good intentions. What I would like to see happen is get the local scene with local music really crackin..get them kids out in them streets talking about functions...do some shit at the parks etc....invest in some great promotional give aways, become active within communities etc. These investments if done right might come back to you in a bigger way...as it stands now its every man for himself. personally Chrymes. If i was to be 100% honest with you I would say you have a better chance in some other part of the business then as an artist (although I dont really want to crush no dreams) as someone else said everyone has their strengths and weaknesses.

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Really if some of these artists had the Drive that Chrymes does. Maybe the scene would have more shows. Can't blame somedody for Hustlin. Wheres all the other shows bein thrown by individual artists. Rappers sittin by the phone waitin for somebody to put them on, Why because you can rhyme good.

If you build IT they will come....