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Nov 21, 2007
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Better alternative is to wipe your ass with your ballot.

Now you don’t have to vote Ron Paul.

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.
Im not too impressed with our electoral process, but as i said before, those who make the biggest noise about a canidate in here dont offer their alternative.

if cynicism were a third party you'd be a shoe-in for a nomination, all complaints and no solution... yeah, no thanks. ill keep my vote right where it is..
 
Nov 21, 2007
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if your talking violent overthrow then im with ya there, but the general pop are apathetic to gov corruption and you wouldn't have the numbers. I think the problem with our system is the lack of proper representation, so when I feel like there is somebody who appeals to a lot of the ideals I subscribe to then he will get my vote.

so, in your opinion, what IS the solution?.
 
Nov 21, 2007
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Ill ask again.. anybody care to offer alternatives?

We have...

"voting isnt the solution"
"ron paul can't be trusted"
"why would he want to be president"

yet not one word has been spoken on whats better.....
 
Feb 23, 2004
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Ron Paul is different. He thinks a strong president isn't one determined to wage war but one that can resist the temptation to run our lives. Thats a politician you CAN trust. Think about it, before his huge boost in popularity, he was the guy spitting the truth that no one thought could make it. Now he can but you all will certainly turn your back on him.

Smh @ u coffee shop revolutionaries. All Bullshit talk.

Ron Paul '08
 
May 13, 2002
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wait, who you callin coffee shop revolutionaries? What is so revolutionary about supporting a libertarian?? It seems to me most, if not all, libertarians are very immature thinkers, similar to that of young anarchists. They assert to things like a right to have guns and not pay taxes, hold the right to property as the most fundamental freedom (which is bullshit), etc. The hold the attitude of "fuck the government, they have no right to tell me what to do!" There is no real thought out plan as to the economy, foreign policy, etc.

Besides all that, Ron Paul offers us nothing. If we had it his way there would be MORE privatization, all social spending would dwindle to nothing, forget about health care, education, etc. We would probably be worse off under him than under a uber-capitalist like George Bush!

If anything, Ron Paul supporters are coffee shop revolutionaries, thinking that donating $100 will bring upon change. Let me make it clear - voting for a presidential candidate, no matter who it is, will change nothing. Donating money to a presidential candidate will change nothing. The only real change that can occur in Amerika or elsewhere is by popular movements, strikes, protests, etc. There must exist a will of the people to create change in order for change to take place (like that of the 60's and 70's for example, which was solely responsible for equal rights & the end of the Vietnam war). There are some on this board, myself included, that do the little things that we can to try and make change (write for newspapers, participate in protests, meetings, walkouts, strikes, members of organizations, etc.).
 
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wait, who you callin coffee shop revolutionaries? What is so revolutionary about supporting a libertarian?? It seems to me most, if not all, libertarians are very immature thinkers, similar to that of young anarchists. They assert to things like a right to have guns and not pay taxes, hold the right to property as the most fundamental freedom (which is bullshit), etc. The hold the attitude of "fuck the government, they have no right to tell me what to do!" There is no real thought out plan as to the economy, foreign policy, etc.
How is believing i have a right to own a gun, not have to pay a governing body what I work for and own my house immature? History has a habit of using gun-control as a pre-text for genocide and usurping control from its people..

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
million Armenians were exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. and from 1939 to 1945 13
million Jews and others were exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935; from 1948 to 1952, 20 million
political dissidents were exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964, and from 1964 to 1981,
100,000 Mayan Indians were exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970 - from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
people were exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956, and from 1975 to 1977 one
million educated people were exterminated.





Besides all that, Ron Paul offers us nothing. If we had it his way there would be MORE privatization, all social spending would dwindle to nothing, forget about health care, education, etc. We would probably be worse off under him than under a uber-capitalist like George Bush!
Our spending is way too high to support these. Ending the war and downsizing our military presence across the globe will make serious waves. I dont think our government should be this 'nanny' state either because first of all, If you dont trust politicians then you want them as much out of your lives as possible. If they can't hold themselves accountable for the shit they already do then I don't want them to manage my life. With less taxes ill be making more then enough money to provide my own healthcare and have competing companies to choose from.

If anything, Ron Paul supporters are coffee shop revolutionaries, thinking that donating $100 will bring upon change. Let me make it clear - voting for a presidential candidate, no matter who it is, will change nothing. Donating money to a presidential candidate will change nothing. The only real change that can occur in Amerika or elsewhere is by popular movements, strikes, protests, etc. There must exist a will of the people to create change in order for change to take place (like that of the 60's and 70's for example, which was solely responsible for equal rights & the end of the Vietnam war). There are some on this board, myself included, that do the little things that we can to try and make change (write for newspapers, participate in protests, meetings, walkouts, strikes, members of organizations, etc.).
I personally believe that peaceful protests aren't going to change anything either. I can stand outside of a government building holding a sign for as long as I want and nothing is going to happen any sooner. Im with Ron Paul on more issues then Im against.. If someone raises the issue's most of these politicians won't discuss then he gets my vote..
 
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How is believing i have a right to own a gun, not have to pay a governing body what I work for and own my house immature? History has a habit of using gun-control as a pre-text for genocide and usurping control from its people..
Because there isn't a well thought out plan as to how society will work. Like I said, these people just have a few issues that they feel strongly about, but offer nothing else.

And thanks for all the references to how gun control can be a bad thing. No shit, I'm pro-gun myself but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for ron paul.



I personally believe that peaceful protests aren't going to change anything either. I can stand outside of a government building holding a sign for as long as I want and nothing is going to happen any sooner.
Me neither. There needs to be much, much more than just peaceful protests but there must be a starting point. Cant go from no social consciousness to revolution over night.
 

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wait, who you callin coffee shop revolutionaries? What is so revolutionary about supporting a libertarian?? It seems to me most, if not all, libertarians are very immature thinkers, similar to that of young anarchists. They assert to things like a right to have guns and not pay taxes, hold the right to property as the most fundamental freedom (which is bullshit), etc. The hold the attitude of "fuck the government, they have no right to tell me what to do!" There is no real thought out plan as to the economy, foreign policy, etc.

Besides all that, Ron Paul offers us nothing. If we had it his way there would be MORE privatization, all social spending would dwindle to nothing, forget about health care, education, etc. We would probably be worse off under him than under a uber-capitalist like George Bush!

If anything, Ron Paul supporters are coffee shop revolutionaries, thinking that donating $100 will bring upon change. Let me make it clear - voting for a presidential candidate, no matter who it is, will change nothing. Donating money to a presidential candidate will change nothing. The only real change that can occur in Amerika or elsewhere is by popular movements, strikes, protests, etc. There must exist a will of the people to create change in order for change to take place (like that of the 60's and 70's for example, which was solely responsible for equal rights & the end of the Vietnam war). There are some on this board, myself included, that do the little things that we can to try and make change (write for newspapers, participate in protests, meetings, walkouts, strikes, members of organizations, etc.).
i'd have to say that an immature thinker is one that doesn't want to deal with problems in THIS country that we have never handled (education, homeless, etc tec).....or should i say one that just doesn't deal with it, it's not a matter of want or not wanting to, most politicians in this country talk about foreign policy and all that shit...that's FUCKING wonderful...but WHAT THE FUCK is the government doing for US, the citizens who fucking pay taxes and make this actual machine work? NOT MUCH.

I'd rather have someone who says FUCK the rest of the countries and deals with the one HE'S (or she, yeah right)ELECTED TO LEAD....without shipping US troops into every country on the face of the planet.

Maybe I'm an immature thinker...but I think dealing with the country that elected you and handling the problems of that country is WAY more fucking important than foreign policy.