Ron Paul’s phony populism

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Just because society is built on the plundering of resources doesn't make it man's nature. Man's nature is hunter gatherer. Autonomous indegenous tribes have not been found with stockpiles of resources, quite the contrary.

It is actually the nature of government to hoard resources.
Oh man...i suggest you take a psych 101 class, pronto. You are very ignorant about human nature and the way the human mind works.

PS-Human's invented government.
 

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http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/01/dance-of-marionettes.html

Dance of the Marionettes


It's election season in the US, which means that I have the unwelcome task of wading through well-intentioned though off-topic comments devoted to things political: who might be the next president, and whether or not it matters who the next president is (it doesn't). And rather than bear it quietly, I thought I'd say something about it.

Electioneering in the US is steadily expanding to fill more and more time and space even as it provides worse and worse results with each election cycle. The Congress is made of some of the least popular people on earth, who are manifestly incapable of achieving anything useful. They do seem quite ready and willing to pass laws that erode human rights and enhance the powers of the police state, but this is because they are paranoid. Perhaps their one point of consensus is that sooner or later their constituents will want to open fire on them.

Still, the elections provide a spectacle, the media are conditioned to lavish attention on the candidates, and the people, being weak-willed, are once again beguiled into thinking that it matters who gets elected. A few years of Obama impersonating Bush should have taught them that it doesn't matter who the Prisoner of the White House is. Likewise, watching the sad spectacle of Congress trying to raise the debt limit or to reign in runaway deficit spending should have taught them that this institution is no longer functional. (The US is about to bump up against the debt limit again; does anyone even care?) All of this should have been enough to make it clear to just about everyone that wondering what might be different if, say, Ron Paul got elected president, is like wondering what might be different if the moon were made of a different kind of cheese—your favorite kind, of course.

Leaving aside the meaningless question of who the next Figurehead in Chief might be, let's look briefly at what is perhaps the most corrupt institution the US has: the US Senate. Everyone knows that senate seats are for sale: as soon as a senator gets elected, he starts fund-raising, to finance his reelection campaign. Since each state, whether huge or puny, gets two seats, these are variously priced: the two seats for a large, populous state, like California or Texas, are very expensive, while the two seats for the puny State of Potatoho or some such, with its zero million inhabitants, are more reasonably priced. Since the senators themselves decide nothing and are simply mouthpieces to the moneyed interests which buy their seats, and since this is a very divided country, they are unable to achieve compromise, making the Senate completely useless as a deliberative body.

Let's face it: the senators are just marionettes controlled by giant bags of money. Their seats are definitely for sale, all of them, all the time. But then an odd thing happened about a month ago: the ousted Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich was sentenced to 14 years in prison for allegedly attempting to sell the senate seat that was vacated when Obama was elected president. It seems like a stiff penalty for something that is a routine, daily occurrence, does it not? It is especially odd since other miscreants who actually caused serious damage, like former senator Jon Corzine, who looted investors' accounts to cover his gambling debts in the futures market, are still at large. What set Blagojevich apart is that he violated a taboo. Just like any normal criminal syndicate, the US Senate has rules by which the members preserve their positions and keep each other in check. As with a criminal syndicate, these rules have nothing to do with serving the public interest. One of these rules is that it is not allowed to sell a senate seat if it is unoccupied. Essentially, senators get to sell senate seats, governors don't. It is a tribal taboo: “Of course we can have sex with our underage daughters—we all do it—but not when they are menstruating! We are all good decent God-fearing Troglodytes!” Rod Blagojevich is the exception that proves the rule: senate seats are for sale.

It stands to reason, then, that the way to influence this political system, in its current advanced state of degeneracy, is not through the political process, which is just a pro forma activity that determines nothing. Armed with the understanding that it doesn't matter who gets elected, we should ignore the elections altogether. To get the government to respond, it is far more effective to organize around issues, pool resources, and hire lobbyists.

As for the rest of us, who do not have the means to hire lobbyists, there are still a few things we can do: we can starve the system by withholding resources from it, and we can bleed the system by extracting payments from it. If we are clever, we can also find ways to frustrate the system by artificially generating complexity. The system has been gamed to our disadvantage. We are not going to win by playing along. But we all win whenever we refuse to play the game.


If you simply can't resist the temptation to play the game, don't play it to win. Play it strictly for the entertainment value. Ignore the front-runners and focus on all the amusing types that have zero probability of being elected. Encourage them, give them airtime and attention. And if anybody wonders why their candidacy matters, use the opportunity to explain to them why none of these political marionettes matter at all.
 

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I know exactly what I'm talking about 1/3 of the population is below the age of 30 in China= generational gap, what else did I mention that I was off on? Godzilla attacking Japan? You choose to be affected by my "name calling" I would just let it roll off my shoulders and not let my internet ego get so hurt u fake ass chinaman
Again, I don't care what you are talking about. You don't know shit about anything going on outside of the US and reading through your posts I doubt you know what is going on in the US. But that makes you quite similar to Ron Paul. Stuck in his own little world. You are welcome to visit me here to see for yourself though.
 
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Thought this was interesting....

Paul has received endorsements from:

Political parties:
The Jefferson Republican Party[87]
The Republican Liberty Caucus[88]

Press:
The Daily Iowan[89]
The Littleton Courier (New Hampshire) [90]
Berlin Reporter (New Hampshire) [90]
Coos County Democrat (New Hampshire) [90]

Organizations:
Iowa

Dubuque Tea Party of Iowa[91]
New York
Tea Party Coalition of Western New York[92]
Allegany County Tea Party of New York[93]
Buffalo Liberty Tea Party of New York[93]
Monroe County Tea Party of New York[93]
Ontario County Tea Party of New York[93]
Steuben County Tea Party of New York[93]

Party officials
Democratic Party officials
Lynn Rudmin Chong, former Democratic chair of Belknap County in New Hampshire[94]
Republican Party officials
Cory Adams, Republican chairman of Story County in Iowa[95]
Josh Davenport, Republican co-chair of Clay County in Iowa[96]
David Fischer, member of the Iowa Republican State Central Committee[97]
Heath Hill, former Republican chairman of Story County in Iowa[98]
Drew Ivers, member of the Iowa Republican State Central Committee[97]
Jeremiah Johnson, member of the Iowa Republican State Central Committee[91]
James Mills, member of the Iowa Republican State Central Committee[97]
A.J. Spiker, member of the Iowa Republican State Central Committee and former Republican chairman of Story County[98]
Kris Thiessen, Republican chair of Clay County in Iowa[96]

Current U.S. Senators and Congresspeople
Justin Amash, Representative from Michigan[99]
Walter B. Jones, Representative from North Carolina[100]
Rand Paul, son and Senator from Kentucky[101]

Governors
Jesse Ventura, Former Governor of Minnesota, TV show host, Navy SEAL and professional wrestler[102][103]
Gary Johnson, Former Governor of New Mexico. Johnson's endorsement is for the GOP primary only, as Johnson is still running as a Libertarian.[104]

Current state legislators
New Hampshire

Jim Forsythe, New Hampshire State Senator[105]
Andy Sanborn, New Hampshire State Senator[106]
Ray White, New Hampshire State Senator[107]
Anne Cartwright, New Hampshire State Representative (Cheshire, District 2)[108]
Jenn Coffey, New Hampshire State Representative (Merrimack, District 6)[109]
Seth Cohn, New Hampshire State Representative (Merrimack, District 6)
Tim Comerford, New Hampshire State Representative[109]
Guy Comtois, New Hampshire State Representative (Belknap, District 5)
Cameron DeJong, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 9)[105]
Phil Greazzo, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 17) and Manchester Ward 10 Alderman[110]
J.R. Hoell, New Hampshire State Representative (Merrimack, District 13)[111]
Paul Ingbretson, New Hampshire State Representative (Grafton, District 5)[112]
Kyle Jones, New Hampshire State Representative (Rochester)[113]
Laura Jones, New Hampshire State Representative (Rochester)[109]
Robert Kingsbury, New Hampshire State Representative (Belknap, District 4)[114]
George Lambert, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 27)[115]
Robert Malone, New Hampshire State Representative (Belknap, District 5.)[116]
Jonathan S. Maltz, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 27)[117]
Donna Mauro, New Hampshire State Representative[109]
Andrew Manuse, New Hampshire State Representative[118]
Paul Mirski, New Hampshire State Representative (Grafton, District 10)[119]
Keith Murphy, New Hampshire State Representative (Bedford)[120]
Laurence Rappaport, New Hampshire State Representative[121]
Kevin Reichard, New Hampshire State Representative[122]
Lisa Scontsas, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 22)[123]
Tammy Simmons, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 17)[109]
Kathy Souza, New Hampshire State Representative[124]
Norman Tregenza, New Hampshire State Representative[105]
Lucien Vita, New Hampshire State Representative (Middleton)[113]
Carol Vita, New Hampshire State Representative (Middleton)[113]
Mark Warden, New Hampshire State Representative (Hillsborough, District 7)[109]
According to Forsythe, Paul has received support from twenty New Hampshire state representatives as of early July 2011.[125]
North Carolina
Glen Bradley, North Carolina State Representative[126]
Idaho
Phil Hart, Idaho State Representative[127]
Vito Barbieri, Idaho State Representative[128]
Pete Nielsen, Idaho State Representative[128]
Shirley McKague, Idaho State Senator[128]
Iowa
Kent Sorenson, Iowa State Senator, former Michelle Bachmann Iowa campaign chairman[129]
Glen Massie, Iowa State Representative[130]
Kim Pearson, Iowa State Representative[131]
Jason Schultz, Iowa State Representative[95][132]
New Jersey
Mike Doherty, New Jersey State Senator[133]
Oklahoma
Charles Key, Oklahoma State Representative[134]
Rhode Island
Nicholas D. Kettle, Rhode Island State Senator[135]
South Carolina
Thomas Ravenel, former state treasurer [136]
Washington
Cary Condotta, Washington State Representative[137]
Wyoming
Kendell Kroeker, Wyoming State Representative (House District 35)[138]

Former Cabinet members, diplomats, and other officials
Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy Paul Craig Roberts[139]

Political activists
Richard Mack, former sheriff from Arizona and gun rights activist[140]
Debra Medina, political activist and candidate for the Republican nomination in the 2010 Texas gubernatorial election[141]
Ken Hach, Iowa Tea-party co-founder[142]
Jim Treat, Iowa Tea-party co-founder[142]
Adam Kokesh, political activist, talk show host[143]
Karen Kwiatkowski, political activist, retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, 2012 candidate for Congress from Virginia's 6th district[144]
Tim Pugh, founder of the Cedar Rapids Tea Party[145]
Calvin Dufraisne, political activist, conservative opinion writer and contributing commentator for the Revered Review[146]
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Former Judges
Andrew Napolitano, a former New Jersey Superior Court Judge[147]

Former CIA Officers
Michael Scheuer, a former CIA intelligence officer who served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station from 1996 to 1999, and Special Advisor to the CIA's bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.[148]

Businesspeople
Scott Banister, entrepreneur, angel investor[149]
Alex Beltramo, cofounder of game website pogo.com[150]
Patrick M. Byrne, CEO of Overstock.com[151]
Gerald Celente, author and business consultant[152]
Jim Rogers, investor[153]
Joel Salatin, farmer[154]
Peter Schiff, CEO of Euro Pacific Capital[155]

Academia
Walter Block, Professor of economics at Loyola University New Orleans and a senior fellow of the Ludwig von Mises Institute[156]
Bruce Fein, lawyer and Constitutional law expert (senior campaign adviser)[157]
Kevin Gutzman, Professor of history and non-western cultures at Western Connecticut State University[158]
Murray Sabrin, professor of finance at Ramapo College[158]
Thomas Woods, American historian, economist and author[159]

Celebrities and commentators
Aimee Allen, singer and songwriter[160]
Michelle Branch, singer[161]
Chris Carr, Baltimore Ravens defensive back[162]
Kelly Clarkson, pop singer[163]
Jerry Doyle, radio host, actor[164]
John Garver, nephew of Paul's primary rival Rick Santorum [165]
Golden State, indie rock band[166][167]
Peyton Hillis, Cleveland Browns running back[168]
D.L. Hughley, actor[169]
Alex Jones, radio host[170]
KRS One, rapper[171]
Philip Labonte, singer for the band All That Remains[172]
Aaron Lewis, frontman for the band Staind[173]
Andrew Napolitano, political and legal analyst[174]
Chuck Norris, martial artist and actor[175]
Tony Pashos, Cleveland Browns offensive tackle[168]
Joe Perry, guitarist, vocalist and songwriter for the rock band Aerosmith[176]
Prodigy, rapper[177]
Dylan Ratigan, television host[178]
Joe Rogan, comedian and television host[179]
Doug Stanhope, stand-up comedian[180]
John Stossel, media pundit[181]
Andrew Sullivan, political commentator and blogger[182]
Vince Vaughn, actor[183]
 
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CHICAGO, January 9, 2012 &#8211; If there is one thing you should never count out in politics, its Ron Paul; make that two things, if you count his supporters.


Photo by Carl Arriaza
Even now, Paul, a Texas Congressman, is again closing the gap in the New Hampshire primary. A Suffolk University/7 News poll published on Saturday had Romney at 35%, down from 40% two days before. Paul rose to 20% from 17. 15% are undecided.

Republican presidential frontrunners may come and go, beaten into submission by the mainstream media spotlight or Romney Super Pac ad spots, but the two intense political factions &#8211; smaller government constitutionalists and foreign policy non-interventionists - that make up Ron Paul&#8217;s support are of the sort that &#8220;never say die.&#8221;

And if the Illinois crowd that turned out to watch their hero, Ron Paul, at this weekend&#8217;s GOP presidential debate is any indication, they will be around for many an election cycle to come. It was with a sense of passion and resolve that more than 200 Ron Paul supporters packed the Wise Fools Pub in Lincoln Park on Chicago&#8217;s trendy north side.


Photo by Carl Arriaza
Some sported &#8220;End the Fed&#8221; t-shirts. Others donned t-shirts emblazoned with Ron Paul&#8217;s knowing mug and the question: &#8220;Who is this man and why is he trying to save my country?&#8221; In truth, the energy was different than your standard issue Republican event.It was intense.

So what is Ron Paul&#8217;s secret to inspiring his supporters? &#8220;Freedom is popular,&#8221; shrugs Scott Davis, an Illinois coordinator for Ron Paul.

And it truly is.

Freedom from government interference is what drives Ron Paul supporters, just as it has ignited the passions of social and economic conservatives within the Tea Party movement. There is overlap between the two groups, the quest for economic independence being the flint for the fire.

In November 2010, a roaring political wildfire spread across the country delivering 63 seats in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate to the Republican Party.

How this fire of political passions will spread and what it will deliver in 2012 remains to be seen.


At Wise Fools Pub. Photo by Carl Arriaza
But freedom is also a responsibility and Ron Paul supporters have always realized their duty to defend Paul&#8217;s political case.

Suspicious of mainstream media, they are well-versed in domestic and U.S. foreign policy matters and able to discuss and discern the difference between a non-interventionist and an isolationist at the drop of a tricorn hat.

It is a refreshing change. Some Ivy League graduates wouldn&#8217;t know a &#8220;Kim Jong-il&#8221; from the latest xbox.

But something has happened this election cycle that is different than the rest. The recognition of Ron Paul and his supporters as a powerful political segment has finally gone mainstream.

For proof, one need look no further than GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney, who in Saturday&#8217;s debate, made a point of showing deference to Paul&#8217;s expertise on constitutional matters:



Back in December, Romney said he could support a Paul candidacy in the general election. &#8220;I&#8217;ve already crossed that river, if you will, by saying on stage a number of times&#8230;that all of the people on stage would be superior to the President we have. So yes, I would vote for him.&#8221;

However, when Paul began surging in the Iowa polls, Romney quickly changed course. "I don't think Ron Paul represents the mainstream,&#8221; said Romney on December 30.

It is a difficult tightrope for the GOP candidates as they simultaneously bash and praise each other, jockeying for votes while trying not to alienate their competitors&#8217; supporters.

But Romney wasn&#8217;t the only one trying to score points with Paul supporters. Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin issued a sharp scolding of her own to the GOP establishment Tuesday night:

The GOP had better not marginalize Ron Paul and his supporters after this [Iowa Caucus] because Ron Paul and his supporters understand that a lot of Americans are war weary and we are broke. He [Paul] has reached these constituencies that are concerned about the solvency of the U.S, and he has proposed solutions with his austerity measures that he would like to see implemented so the GOP had better listen to what these Ron Paul supporters are saying and had better work with them.

Savvy politicians like Palin understand Paul&#8217;s philosophy has struck a chord with a segment of difficult-to-reach voters. However, Paul has done more than reach them. He has inspired them and activated them. What makes the activism all the more compelling is the average age of the Ron Paul supporter. Most fall within the 18-24 year-old age bracket. But, unlike Obama whose support among young voters has fallen, Paul continues to attract.

In a different way, President Reagan also attracted blue collar Democrats to the Republican Party in the 1980s. Inspired by his sunny pro-American optimism and tough anti-communist platform, Reagan transformed conservatism and made it a powerful populist brand under the Republican banner. Today, it is Reagan&#8217;s brand of conservatism that presidential candidates like Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich aspire to.

Ron Paul and his supporters are also attempting to transform the Republican brand. &#8220;The important thing is that I have challenged the status quo, the corruption in Washington, and as a doctor I know that the patient, in this case the country, is responding and now has a good chance of recovery. This is very, very pleasing to me,&#8221; said Paul in an interview with Newsmax last week.

Win or lose in Tuesday&#8217;s New Hampshire primary, Ron Paul and his supporters will continue to be seen and heard this election. This is democracy-at-work &#8211; whether the GOP leadership likes it or not.

Conservative satirist and commentator William J. Kelly is also a contributor to Breitbart.com and edits the Tea Party Reports for the Washington Times Communities. He is a native from Chicago's Southside.

http://communities.washingtontimes....uls-surprising-supporters-yes-palin-and-romn/


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Mac Jesus

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It was perfectly "cohenrent".

If human nature was to hoard resources, how come none of the indigenous tribes that live virtually autonomously from the rest of global society have EVER been found with stockpiles of resources?
Many Tribal groups have been known to stockpile resources when they are available for when they are not readily available. In the late fall when Bison are known to aggregate together the Plains Indian tribes would construct drive lanes, and chase bison off of cliffs or into pounds. According to Ethnohistoric resources and archaeological evidence, hundreds of bison would be killed in this manner at one time. In the Arctic, similiar methods were used to hunt caribou. Dogs were also trained to attack Musk-Oxen who would then form a defensive circle around their young. Once in this circle hunters would kill off the entire herd with bows and arrows. In the North West Coast groups were stockpiling Salmon when it was readily available and storing it in water tight boxes. The reason they stockpiled these resources is so that when the time came when the resources were not available they still had some, it was a survival strategy and very necessary. Now go back and re-read what ThaG wrote about how that situation differs from today's society. It's no longer a survival strategy, but something that is still hard wired into us.
 
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Again, I don't care what you are talking about. You don't know shit about anything going on outside of the US and reading through your posts I doubt you know what is going on in the US. But that makes you quite similar to Ron Paul. Stuck in his own little world. You are welcome to visit me here to see for yourself though.
uh huh so this is a Euro moved to China telling me I don't know what's going on in America on an American rap website, yup that makes sense
 
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Many Tribal groups have been known to stockpile resources when they are available for when they are not readily available. In the late fall when Bison are known to aggregate together the Plains Indian tribes would construct drive lanes, and chase bison off of cliffs or into pounds. According to Ethnohistoric resources and archaeological evidence, hundreds of bison would be killed in this manner at one time. In the Arctic, similiar methods were used to hunt caribou. Dogs were also trained to attack Musk-Oxen who would then form a defensive circle around their young. Once in this circle hunters would kill off the entire herd with bows and arrows. In the North West Coast groups were stockpiling Salmon when it was readily available and storing it in water tight boxes. The reason they stockpiled these resources is so that when the time came when the resources were not available they still had some, it was a survival strategy and very necessary. Now go back and re-read what ThaG wrote about how that situation differs from today's society. It's no longer a survival strategy, but something that is still hard wired into us.


I also tend to think that there is an innate psychological trigger in the human subconscious that controls our impulse to stockpile/gather resources / hoard / etc.

That trigger is set off when the population density reaches a certain threshold. Our brains calculate that there are more people in a given area than the land can support. Living in large cities with high population densities causes that trigger (amongst many other things) to be even more sensitive.
 
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You know what...i hope Ron Paul DOES get elected, so i can come back here and tell all his supporters "i told you so" when he does just as crappy as all the rest of the presidents. I think its worth another 4-8 shitty years in the US, which wont be any better or worse off with any of the other imbeciles running.
 
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Ron Paul was written in by 18% of NH primary voters who took a Democratic ballot....

Almost one in five New Hampshire Democratic primary voters cast their ballots Tuesday for someone other than Barack Obama.

The president still won the primary with a handsome majority: 81.9 percent of the vote.

But the fact that more than 18 percent of New Hampshire voters who took Democratic primary ballots chose to write in the name of another candidate&#8212;anti-war Republican Ron Paul was the second-place finisher in the primary with 2,273 write-ins&#8212;or to vote for one of the little-known contenders whose names were on the ballot with Obama&#8217;s begs a question: What if a prominent progressive had mounted a primary challenge to the president?

Consumer activist Ralph Nader, scholar Cornel West and others argued for such a challenge last year. And Senator Bernie Sanders, Congressman Peter DeFazio and Congressman Dennis Kucinich were among the Capitol Hill progressives who suggested it would be good for the party and the president to face a meaningful primary test. While inside-the-party wrangling might be messy, the argument went, Democrats would ultimately be well served by an airing of the issues and a pressuring of the president to focus and intensify his outreach to the party's base voters.

The project never came to fruition. So the New Hampshire primary votes cast for someone other than Obama were scattered and drew little attention as the media obsessed about the Republican primary fight. The same was the case after last week's Iowa&#8217;s Democratic caucuses, where caucus-goers in liberal-leaning communities such as Iowa City and Ames selected a small but notable number of uncommitted representatives to participate in the process of choosing delegates to this summer&#8217;s Democratic National Convention.

Ultimately, Obama will secure all the DNC delegates from Iowa and New Hampshire.

And his supporters will make the case that whatever dissent that may be surfacing is relatively normal.

After all, the last sitting Democratic president to run in a New Hampshire Democratic primary, Bill Clinton in 1996, took just 84 percent of the vote.

Clinton went on to win New Hampshire with relative ease in November 1996.

But there are some other numbers that should concern Obama and his Democratic allies.

While Obama&#8217;s New Hampshire Democratic primary vote percentage in 2012 was roughly the same as Clinton&#8217;s in 1996, their actual vote totals were dramatically different.

Clinton won 76,797 votes out of a total 91,027 votes cast in the 1996 Democratic primary.

Obama won 49,480 votes out of a total of 60,996 votes cast in the 2012 Democratic primary.

The Democratic primary turnout this year was down dramatically (roughly 33 percent) from 1996, the last year when a Democratic president was seeking re-election without meaningful opposition. By contrast, 2012 Republican primary turnout was up by almost 39,000 votes, an increase of roughly 16 percent, from 1996.

In 1996, when Republicans had an intense contest (Pat Buchanan beat Bob Dole by a handful of votes), more than 30 percent of all primary voters in New Hampshire participated in the low-profile Democratic contest.

In 2012, when the Republican race was significantly less intense (Romney maintained a reasonably steady polling lead and won with ease), less than 20 percent of all primary voters in New Hampshire took Democratic ballots.

Barack Obama ought not worry about the percentage of the vote he took in this year's New Hampshire Democratic primary. It was sufficient.

But the president and his campaign aides should be paying attention to the evidence of an enthusiasm gap when it comes to voting in the Democratic primary of will be a battleground state this fall. And they should be asking themselves whether that gap in just a New Hampshire concern, or if might be a problem in other battleground states where Obama may not have much margin for error.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/165602/new-hampshire-results-point-notable-democratic-enthusiasm-gap
 

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I don't have alot of interest in internal american politics, however I'd love for Ron Paul to get elected in the hope that he would further investigate the hoover/contras links, flooding Oakland with crack. Somebody needs to be held accountable for that shit.

But, on par with the course, he won't do shit and will flip flop just like every other cunt that has been a head of state anywhere on the globe.
 
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Ron Paul 2012
If your not with Ron Paul move your freedom hating ass to a communist state.
If you like the Bill of Rights and the Constitution there is only one candidate, that is Ron Paul.
 

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Ron Paul 2012
If your not with Ron Paul move your freedom hating ass to a communist state.
If you like the Bill of Rights and the Constitution there is only one candidate, that is Ron Paul.

I THINK AT THIS POINT VOTING FOR RON PAUL CANT BE ANY WORSE THAN VOTING FOR OBAMA AGAIN OR ROMNEY.

BUT HE WOULD HAVE ALOT TO PROVE.