Revolutionary situation in Mexico

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I read this a few days ago but didn't reply, it was a good read and really interesting, good lookin out 2-0...

I'd like to see people of the US react like this to all the bullshit that's going on in our country. Voting isnt' going to work. We gotta take our country back with force..hense the right to bear arms...and start a militia..oh wait, the gov't doesn't liek that shit no more.....kill em all!:angry:
 
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HERESY said:
How many protests pertenaint to immigration (legal and illegal) have taken place in Mexico during the past year?
This conflict began because people (specifically teachers) were demanding better wages and social justice, pertinent root causes for immigration. If motherfuckers are not getting paid right and feel they're getting screwed to a large degree by those in power, then why would they be protesting about immigration?
 

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enserio said:
This conflict began because people (specifically teachers) were demanding better wages and social justice, pertinent root causes for immigration. If motherfuckers are not getting paid right and feel they're getting screwed to a large degree by those in power, then why would they be protesting about immigration?
The question still stands unless you are implying this protest is directly related to immigration.
 
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Oaxaca Bishop: No Sanctuary for Leftists


Sunday November 12, 2006 3:01 AM

AP Photo MOEV104

By REBECA ROMERO

Associated Press Writer

OAXACA, Mexico (AP) - The Roman Catholic bishop of Oaxaca said Saturday the church cannot grant sanctuary to four leftists who led a five-month takeover of the city to demand the resignation of the state governor.

The four had publicly asked for protection in one of the city's churches earlier this week, fearing they might be arrested on charges stemming from their role in demonstrations which at times turned violent.

But Bishop Jose Luis Chavez Botello told reporters on Saturday that the church has neither the resources nor the facilities to provide sanctuary, an ancient tradition in which temples shielded people from detention by authorities.

The bishop said the church was trying to act as a facilitator of dialogue and has not shown preferences in the conflict, which began as a teachers' strike in late May.

``We have cared for average citizens, policemen, teachers and state government employees without distinction,'' the bishop said.

For five months, leftist protesters allied with the striking teachers seized the city center, kept out state police and drove away tourists from one of Mexico's top destinations. They built barricades, burned buses and took over private radio stations to broadcast calls for revolution. Nine people have been killed in the city since August, most of them leftists.

The president on Oct. 29 sent 4,000 federal officers backed by helicopters and water cannons to push the leftists out of the city center and regain control.

Flavio Sosa is the most visible leader of the Oaxaca People's Assembly - a coalition of leftists, anarchists and neighborhood groups calling for the resignation of Gov. Ulises Ruiz who they accuse of rigging a 2004 election.

Sosa faces arrest warrants on riot and conspiracy charges, but has also been engaged in on-again, off-again talks with the federal government. He spends most of his time surrounded by supporters at Oaxaca's state university where protesters set up their headquarters after being expelled by police from the city's main square. The university's rector has refused to allow police to enter the facility.

But he also frequently speaks to reporters and supporters just a couple of blocks from positions the federal police took up in the city following the raid in late October. Police apparently have never pursued him.

On Saturday, protesters met to plan out the movement's future strategy after striking teachers voted to accept pay increases and many agreed to return to work.

Meanwhile, sporadic violence has persisted in the city as federal officers clashed with protesters using gasoline bombs and fireworks packed with glass and nails. Last week, 30 people were injured in confrontations with police.

Federal police said over the weekend that they would start assuming anti-crime operations in the city because some criminals had taken advantage of the political upheaval to commit robberies and other crimes.


http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20061110/1a_bottomstrip10.art.htm
 
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Compañeros of Huitepec Continue to Be Held Hostage and Threatened by Government Authorities
The Good Government Council of Oventik asks Adherents to the Other Campaign for Solidarity and to Remain Attentive


By The Good Government Council
Central Heart of the Zapatistas in Front of the World
November 16, 2006

TOPIC: DENOUNCEMEMT

TO PUBLIC OPINION
TO THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PRESS
TO NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL CIVIL SOCIETIES

The Good Government Council (JGB in its Spanish Initials), “Central Heart of the Zapatistas in Front of the World,” with headquarters in Oventik, Caracol number 2, Highlands of Chiapas, Mexico.

With this denouncement we are making public knowledge of the following:

As the Good Government Council of this region, we publicly denounce that our comrades in the Zapatista National Liberation Army (EZLN) in the community of Huitepec Ocotal of Section 2, municipality of San Cristobal de Las Casas, continue to be held hostage and threatened by government authorities.

On October 30th of this year, representatives of the Republic’s Attorney General’s Office (PGR) arrived in the community of Huitepec Ocotal in a white truck asking for Juan and Pedro, the names that our EZLN comrades gave when they were detained by municipal and sectoral police who were accompanied by the Attorney’s office of Federal Environmental Protection on September 8th this year, after claiming a piece of land that belongs to them ancestrally.

On November 3rd, the same PGR truck returned, again asking for Juan and Pedro. On this occasion the PRI (Revolutionary Institutional Party) authorities in the community told them which houses belonged to the men.

On Monday November 6th, a lawyer from Fray Bartolome’s Center for Human Rights investigated the matter by going to the PGR to find out what had happened. The PGR informed him that Juan and Pedro would have to present themselves on November 8th at 10:00 am to declare their legal processes before the second district judge with headquarters in CERESO El Amate in Cintalapa, Chiapas. For these reasons we now consider our friends in danger of being detained yet again.

In this public denouncement, September 27th 2006, this Good Government Council in the Highlands of Chiapas declares the innocence of our comrades that were detained on September 8th. Therefore there is no need to continue with any trial or dependence. In addition, the 15,000 pesos they paid as bail, in total 30,000 pesos, should be returned to these adherent comrades of the Sixth Declaration and the Other Campaign of San Cristobal de las Casas, matters that until now haven’t been fulfilled. On the contrary, our comrades of the fore-mentioned community, continue to be persecuted and threatened by government authorities.

We ask that our compañeros and compañeras, and everyone else in solidarity with and adherents to the Other Campaign of JOVEL (San Cristobal de las Casas) remain attentive.


ATTENTIVELY YOURS

THE GOOD GOVERNMENT COUNCIL. THE CENTRAL HEART OF THE ZAPATISTAS IN FRONT OF THE WORLD.

THE HIGHLANDS OF CHIAPAS, MEXICO.

MOISES PÉREZ RUIZ
CARMELA RUIZ RUIZ
GERONIMO SANTIZ GUZMAN
SENAIDA LUNA LÓPEZ
 
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Subcomandante Marcos: “We Are On the Eve of Either a Great Uprising or a Civil War”
author: Hermann Bellinghausen
Mexico.
"President" Calderón Will Begin to Fall from the Day He Takes Office, Warns the Speaker of the EZLN.
By Hermann Bellinghausen
La Jornada


November 24, 2006

Bagdad, Tamaulipas, November 23: December 1, the day that Felipe Calderón takes office, will be "the beginning of the end for a political system that, since the Mexican Revolution, became deformed and began to cheat generation after generation, until this one arrived and said, 'Enough,'" warned Subcomandante Marcos during a press conference. Calderón, he added, "will begin to fall from his first day."

He stated, "we are on the eve of either a great uprising or a civil war." As to the question of who would lead the uprising, he responded, "the people, each one in his or her own place, within a system of mutual support. If we can not succeed in having it happen that way, there will have to be spontaneous uprisings, civil explosions all over, a civil war in which each person is only looking out for his or her own well-being, because the possibility is already there for things to cross that line." He cited the case of Oaxaca, where "there are no leaders or political bosses; it is the people themselves who have organized. It will be like that across the entire country."

With respect to the current phase of the Other Campaign, he explained, "after the Zapatistas lifted the veil that was obscuring the reality of indigenous communities in Chiapas, we ventured out to find poverty in the countryside and in the cities, and now we see it on the coast as well. In this country, there is a façade being propped up by the political parties, and recently by Vicente Fox, that says everything is fine."

In the case of the northern part of the country, he added, it "is chilling" how different reality is from what they say it is: "they say the north supports the PAN, that they love Fox, that everyone lives well. But what we saw was equal to what is happening in the most humble of indigenous communities in the southwest."

He posited that Oaxaca is "an indicator" of what is happening across the country. "In Nuevo Laredo, they told us that the problem in Tamaulipas is that everyone here is like Ulises Ruiz: the municipal president, the state congress, the governor. There are too many in the mold of Ulises Ruiz and the people are getting tired of it. If there is not a civil and peaceful way out, which is what we propose in the Other Campaign, it will turn into each person finding their own way however they can."

He continued, "we do not recognize the official president or the legitimate one. What happens at the top does not matter at all to us. What matters is what will arise from below. When we carry out this uprising, we will do away will the entire political class, including those who call themselves the 'parliamentary leftists.'"

With regard to the violence and power of drug trafficking, he asserted that these provide "another façade," which affects the northern states more than anything, where the central focus is on security, and not on the situation of poverty that exists. "The conflicts between drug traffickers, or between drug traffickers and security forces, or between drug traffickers and politicians, are overstated, because we know that the politicians are in league with some of the drug cartels. Meanwhile, the fundamental is forgotten; for example, what is happening in Playa Bagdad, Nuevo Laredo or Reynosa, to mention Tamaulipas. These places only make it into the news when there are clashes between groups of criminals, while what is happening to the people who are working and struggling is forgotten."


www.jornada.unam.mx


http://www.narconews.com/Issue43/article2382.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/349772.shtml
 
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In todays news, Mexico's president takes office amid fistfights, brawls break out.

Felipe Calderon sworn-in after disputed election, lawmakers’ brawl


MEXICO CITY - Felipe Calderon took the oath of office as Mexico’s president Friday amid jeers and whistles, in a lightning-fast ceremony before congress that was preceded by a brawl between lawmakers divided over the tight presidential election.

Calderon entered through a back door and appeared suddenly on the speaker’s platform, which was the site of three days of fistfights and sit-ins by lawmakers seeking to control the stage. Physically protected by dozens of lawmakers and flanked by outgoing President Vicente Fox, Calderon swore to uphold the constitution in comments almost inaudible over the noise.


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In todays news, Mexico's president takes office amid fistfights, brawls break out.

Felipe Calderon sworn-in after disputed election, lawmakers’ brawl


MEXICO CITY - Felipe Calderon took the oath of office as Mexico’s president Friday amid jeers and whistles, in a lightning-fast ceremony before congress that was preceded by a brawl between lawmakers divided over the tight presidential election.

Calderon entered through a back door and appeared suddenly on the speaker’s platform, which was the site of three days of fistfights and sit-ins by lawmakers seeking to control the stage. Physically protected by dozens of lawmakers and flanked by outgoing President Vicente Fox, Calderon swore to uphold the constitution in comments almost inaudible over the noise.


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thats nuts!!

i love it when elected officials get into it like that. i wonder if that would ever happen here.

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2-0-Sixx said:
^^What's funny is Bush and some of his cronies, including the Governator were there sitting in the balcony watching the whole thing. Ahhnold said something like, "it was great action." lol
hahahhaha classic.

~k.
 
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LOL @ the PRD - entertaining its north american masters while President Calderon was sworn in. The classic part is the PRI was just watching all this from the sidelines, never would have happened if they hadn't lost the last election. Great revolution PRD!
 
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LOL @ the PRD - entertaining its north american masters while President Calderon was sworn in. The classic part is the PRI was just watching all this from the sidelines, never would have happened if they hadn't lost the last election. Great revolution PRD!

I suggest you wait and see if you have this same thought about a year from now.
 
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The Battle for Oaxaca Takes a Turn for the Worse

Things have taken a horrible turn in Oaxaca, where members and supporters of the APPO – a local assembly that seek autonomous rule of the state – have been struggling to unseat the corrupt state Governor, Ulises Ruiz Ortiz, since May of this year. In the run up to the inauguration of the new Mexican President Felipe Calderón, which took place on Friday in a closed door ceremony, the state-sponsored repression of the region’s movement has intensified harshly, with hundreds of activists arrested, dozens killed and many others ‘disappeared,’ by federal forces and local paramilitaries. In a tragic shift in momentum, the core of the resistance has been broken; the last surviving APPO radio station, Radio Universidad, has now fallen to federal forces, thus severing the all-important lines of communication that up until recently had been used so effectively to organize APPO activities; government forces, after an entrenched battle with protestors, have seized San Domingo Plaza – the front line of resistance between defiant APPO protestors and members of the Preventive Federal Police (PFP) since federal forces first entered the state capital, Oaxaca City, in late October.

All over the state, a climate of fear and repression has been introduced, with many of the movement’s core organizers going underground to avoid detention by federal forces. While the situation is still far from over, this is a dark period for the people of Oaxaca. It remains to be seen what the next phase of the conflict will bring, as lame duck President Calderón attempts to consolidate his rule over a fractured and angry country. Large sectors of the population believe that Calderón is only in office having stolen the election from the leftist candidate, Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

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By Barucha Calamity Peller
Republished from Counterpunch

Amongst flames of resistance came death, torture and a clandestine movement

Latin Americas’ ¨dirty war¨ of the 70s and 80s has reemerged in its most blatant form in the case of Oaxaca, Mexico in the final days of November.

The APPO, the Popular Assembly of The People of Oaxaca, whose struggle to oust the PRI party governor Ulises Ruiz and to replace power with that of popular assemblies began on June 14th with an attempt to violently evict a sit-in of striking teachers. Six months later they find themselves living clandestinely with federal warrants on their names and on the run from the police.

In this past week, the government of Mexico has adopted a ¨gloves off ¨ policy and has clearly stated in the press its plans to do away with the popular movement in Oaxaca before Friday, the 1st of December, when PAN party Felipe Calderon was to take presidential office despite protests by millions of voters around the country amidst the fraudulent summer elections that stole the vote from PRD (Democratic Revolution Party) candidate Lopez Obrador.

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