TROLL said:
does it not mention strip search or have u really read it?its basically setting in place a loophole for any school to interpet a 'search'..
I read what you posted, and then I read the ACTUAL bill itself (Link:
HR5295). Here's an excerpt from the actual bill itself:
SEC. 3. SEARCHES BASED ON REASONABLE SUSPICION.
(a) In General- Each local educational agency shall have in effect throughout the jurisdiction of the agency policies that ensure that a search described in subsection (b) is deemed reasonable and permissible.
(b) Searches Covered- A search referred to in subsection (a) is a search by a full-time teacher or school official, acting on any reasonable suspicion based on professional experience and judgment, of any minor student on the grounds of any public school, if the search is conducted to ensure that classrooms, school buildings, school property and students remain free from the threat of all weapons, dangerous materials, or illegal narcotics. The measures used to conduct any search must be reasonably related to the search's objectives, without being excessively intrusive in light of the student's age, sex, and the nature of the offense.
So, AGAIN, each district will be required to adopt policies that are "reasonable and permissable...without being excessively intrusive..". I don't see where STRIP SEARCH will fit into that description.
At any rate, in order for policies to be adopted, School Board members must present and vote on them. Do you really think that policies covering strip searches wouldn't somehow be newsworthy or presented to the public before being voted on, let alone passed?
TROLL said:
The last couple of shootings were due to somebody not from the school and the others in the past were not like they did anything to HIDE they're guns as they're shooting them off at whoever
And this is your answer as to why you wouldn't want a teacher/administrator to search if they felt there was a safety issue? Here's another quote from the bill:
(1) The United States Department of Education's National Center for Education Statistics reported in the 2005 Indicators of School Crime and Safety that in 2003 seventeen percent of students in grades 9-12 reported they carried a weapon. Six percent reported having carried a weapon on school grounds.
(2) The same survey reported that 29 percent of all students in grades 9-12 reported that someone offered, sold, or gave them an illegal drug on school property within the last 12 months.
Oh, that;s right your answer would be...
but i would seriously rather have guards there other then having anybody the right to demand that of my child..
Would these guards be trained? Would they be like rent-a-cops? There are already plenty of adults on campus, and many times when weapons or drugs are found at school, it's because a student felt
comfortable enough to tell a teacher that they
trust. Will your guards be able to establish this kind of repore?
and i am using that extreme instance as an example and its very much a possibility still..
Yes, the example is extreme, and there are several people in the thread who are taking it just as extreme and seeing this bill more as taking rights away than being about safety. That's my point.