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Hardcore type shit?

You clearly never watched PWG or ROH

TNA brought back a bunch of old people who suck and it killed their ratings. Not only that but they have shitty writers and bookers.


The real problem is people like you who want to watch a fucking soap opera and not watch people with in ring skills and im not talking technical wrestling. People like you who need to have a fucking boner over someones "character" to enjoy a match. PWG and ROH have way better performers and if they got a nation wide TV broadcast people actually get to see what real entertainment is.




ECW had fuck all nothing for production and still kicked much ass.... If all you people care about is "production value" then maybe the world of wrestling isnt ment for you :ermm:
Dude, u got fuckin wet over orlando jordans entrance, dont tell me whats right or wrong to watch when it comes to wrestling , i watch it strictly for entertainment while you watch it for Japs and fags
 
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Dude, u got fuckin wet over orlando jordans entrance, dont tell me whats right or wrong to watch when it comes to wrestling , i watch it strictly for entertainment while you watch it for Japs and fags
Why do you guys need to go into some gay shit about me every time we try to talk wrestling?

I dont even like black guys so I dont know where that orlando jordan shit comes from...I was happy that someone was open about who they are but thats about it. Try to keep the gay thoughts to yourself, dude.


Why dont you like PWG and ROH? Not enough soap opera drama for you? You havnt known the wrestlers for ever so you cant enjoy it? How did you even get into wrestling if thats the case?
 
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Why do you guys need to go into some gay shit about me every time we try to talk wrestling?

I dont even like black guys so I dont know where that orlando jordan shit comes from...I was happy that someone was open about who they are but thats about it. Try to keep the gay thoughts to yourself, dude.


Why dont you like PWG and ROH? Not enough soap opera drama for you? You havnt known the wrestlers for ever so you cant enjoy it? How did you even get into wrestling if thats the case?
never said I DIDN't like roh or pwg cause frankly , I've only sen clips of roh and dudes on that promotion looked hungry,but pwg I have not seen anything from, I only disagreed with how you say they equal money and would start a real monday night war cause face it,they won't come close...
 
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ECW had fuck all nothing for production and still kicked much ass.... If all you people care about is "production value" then maybe the world of wrestling isnt ment for you :ermm:
ECW didn't last very long, either. And it was never a threat to either wCw or WWE. I think they didn't get much more than 1's in the ratings, back when WWE was getting 6's and 7's. They'd probably have a worse rating than TNA today, as sad as that is.

The biggest thing keeping me from watching ROH besides it not being on tv in my area are its fans. I can't stand their "Holier than thou" attitude towards fans of any other promotion.

Ungodd, I respect you and your views, but ROHbots just annoy the shit out of me. I try to watch ROH, and it bores me... I don't need soap opera shit, but I need a reason to watch. In Ring work only goes so far. I'd watch UFC if I just wanted to see workrate.
 
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I only disagreed with how you say they equal money and would start a real monday night war cause face it,they won't come close...
What makes you say that? If history has showed us anything its that a small company can do big things.

ECW had nothing and went to war with WCW and WWE




Given time its going ROH vs TNA vs WWE
 
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ECW didn't last very long, either. And it was never a threat to either wCw or WWE. I think they didn't get much more than 1's in the ratings, back when WWE was getting 6's and 7's. They'd probably have a worse rating than TNA today, as sad as that is.

The biggest thing keeping me from watching ROH besides it not being on tv in my area are its fans. I can't stand their "Holier than thou" attitude towards fans of any other promotion.

Ungodd, I respect you and your views, but ROHbots just annoy the shit out of me. I try to watch ROH, and it bores me... I don't need soap opera shit, but I need a reason to watch. In Ring work only goes so far. I'd watch UFC if I just wanted to see workrate.
ECW lasted for about 10 years? for what ecw was that was a long time


Anyway...

thats is a perfectly fine reason to not watch ROH and im ok with that... at least you have a legit reason





and WWE wont buy ROH they will just keep taking wrestlers till it dies
 
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Yes WWE and TNA programming might be weak but they got you watching and posting about them dont they? Even if they are so shitty, people are continuing to watch. and WWE looks like it isnt losing any money of ratings at all so i guess their doing something right.
 

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i understand what ur saying tho , ive heard other people say the ring work is great but they just cant get into it .

but you havent watched rohonhdnet in a long time if ur complaining about there being no sports entertainment like elements about the show , or great build up of feuds , because they do all of that shit now .
 
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The real problem is people like you who want to watch a fucking soap opera and not watch people with in ring skills and im not talking technical wrestling. People like you who need to have a fucking boner over someones "character" to enjoy a match. PWG and ROH have way better performers and if they got a nation wide TV broadcast people actually get to see what real entertainment is.
If TNA had 5 more Asian wrestlers in tighties, you'd be a fan. Talk about boners.
ECW had fuck all nothing for production and still kicked much ass....
Yeah the ECW I remember had tons of technical wrestling.

I like how you think you're so much better than everyone because it just so happens that your fetish is Asian wrestlers and even if they had storylines, you wouldn't be able to understand them.

Out of curiosity, why do you want to watch people fake-fight when there isn't character or storyline involved? That's stranger to me than wanting to watch a "soap opera". Plus I can tell you haven't really watched much of TNA, because when they eventually get into a ring, it's some of the best wrestling I've ever seen. Well a lot of the guys, anyhow.
 
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If TNA had 5 more Asian wrestlers in tighties, you'd be a fan. Talk about boners.

Yeah the ECW I remember had tons of technical wrestling.

I like how you think you're so much better than everyone because it just so happens that your fetish is Asian wrestlers and even if they had storylines, you wouldn't be able to understand them.

Out of curiosity, why do you want to watch people fake-fight when there isn't character or storyline involved? That's stranger to me than wanting to watch a "soap opera". Plus I can tell you haven't really watched much of TNA, because when they eventually get into a ring, it's some of the best wrestling I've ever seen. Well a lot of the guys, anyhow.
Why do you like talking about me and jap men?


Who said ECW was technical wrestling?


Who said TNA didnt have any wrestling?



I like watch jap wrestling because they are extremely skilled in the ring and I find that way more entertaining than what I see in WWE an TNA. A true story is told in the ring, with moves and holds, facial expression, and body language. A good match doesnt come from story lines, a good match comes from what happens in the ring. A true "character" is shown in the ring not in promos or sketches




any other question?
 
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Why do you like talking about me and jap men?
Because you claim that you only watch "good" wrestling, but TNA, WWE, ECW, etc. are shit. 95%, if not ALL of the shit you post is Asian. It's like you've never seen an white guy who can entertain you.

I can't be the only person who's noticed.
Who said ECW was technical wrestling?


Who said TNA didnt have any wrestling?
You. Perhaps not in those exact words, but that's the way you come off.
A true story is told in the ring, with moves and holds, facial expression, and body language. A good match doesnt come from story lines, a good match comes from what happens in the ring. A true "character" is shown in the ring not in promos or sketches
That would be like saying Batman doesn't need the suit or the butler or the car or the mansion, and Joker doesn't need the makeup and gags... if they just put out a whole book of the two guys in underwear fighting, it would be just as good.

In fact that would be like saying you could draw two generic white guys in black trunks, draw them fighting, without names or ANY backstory, and have them fight for what seems to be no reason whatsoever, and you'd be just as entertained.
 
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Because you claim that you only watch "good" wrestling, but TNA, WWE, ECW, etc. are shit. 95%, if not ALL of the shit you post is Asian. It's like you've never seen an white guy who can entertain you.

I can't be the only person who's noticed.
Old ECW was cool :cool:

are you being serious? you are questioning the amount of jap wrestling I post in my JAP WRESTLING thread?:ermm:



That would be like saying Batman doesn't need the suit or the butler or the car or the mansion, and Joker doesn't need the makeup and gags... if they just put out a whole book of the two guys in underwear fighting, it would be just as good.

In fact that would be like saying you could draw two generic white guys in black trunks, draw them fighting, without names or ANY backstory, and have them fight for what seems to be no reason whatsoever, and you'd be just as entertained.

Yes I would be entertained if what they are doing in the ring is entertaining. I dont need all the pageantry that you do to enjoy wrestling.


What they are fighting over is pointless. A title, revenge, a fresh slice of pizza, none of that matters when the match starts.
 
Jan 11, 2006
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Yeah, I don't understand Jap wrestling... besides the language barrier, their matches are a snoozefest. Hold after hold after hold, I don't always like the WWE style of tie up, punch, kick, spot, kick, punch, spot, finisher... but I cannot get into the Japanese style.


I don't mind the Jap stuff in the Jap thread, but the Wrestling DVD thread is getting a ton of matches with people I either don't know, don't care about, or can't understand due to the announcers being Japanese.
 
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Yeah, I don't understand Jap wrestling... besides the language barrier, their matches are a snoozefest. Hold after hold after hold, I don't always like the WWE style of tie up, punch, kick, spot, kick, punch, spot, finisher... but I cannot get into the Japanese style.


I don't mind the Jap stuff in the Jap thread, but the Wrestling DVD thread is getting a ton of matches with people I either don't know, don't care about, or can't understand due to the announcers being Japanese.
Not every match is a hold for hold thing....check out some of the matches on the last page of my Puro thread... I think most of them will be enjoyable to an american audience. You might enjoy the tag matches, probably the Tenryu beat down on Kenta also





the DVD thread....

only the last page has some jap shit. the top of the posts say the company name. Page 2 is full of WWE/F and WCW matches I posted.... also ROH and PWG stuff for the people who say they havnt seen anything from them
 
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Not every match is a hold for hold thing....check out some of the matches on the last page of my Puro thread... I think most of them will be enjoyable to an american audience. You might enjoy the tag matches, probably the Tenryu beat down on Kenta also





the DVD thread....

only the last page has some jap shit. the top of the posts say the company name. Page 2 is full of WWE/F and WCW matches I posted.... also ROH and PWG stuff for the people who say they havnt seen anything from them
I posted that before going in there today. I thank you for the shitload of content you posted there today.
 
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damn I guess all of wrestling sucks to you then huh Ungodd?
Because someone correct me if i'm wrong but every feud i have seen had some sort of pageantry to it. 2 niggas just didnt jump in the ring and you figured it out then. just my two cents.
Yes, all wrestling sucks because it has "pageantry"


 
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A cute little image isn't going to make your point any stronger.

I don't think you understood what he was trying to say. It's not as if Jackie Chan and Jet Li never met before, jumped in the ring and had a fight for no damn reason. There has to be some reason behind the two being in the ring and having such disdain for each other.

Otherwise what do you mean by "pageantry"??
 
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A cute little image isn't going to make your point any stronger.

I don't think you understood what he was trying to say. It's not as if Jackie Chan and Jet Li never met before, jumped in the ring and had a fight for no damn reason. There has to be some reason behind the two being in the ring and having such disdain for each other.

Otherwise what do you mean by "pageantry"??
Why do you need to know why they are in the ring to enjoy a match? You are telling me you couldnt enjoy a great match because you dont know why its going on?

Thats what I like about Jap wrestling. They dont need a reason all the time to beat the tar out of each other. They will just book a match and they will put on an amazing performance because thats when it matters....in the ring

wrestling and in ring entertainment is the most important thing to me when I watch wrestling




I feel that the story is only secondary to the action. If the match isnt any good then all you have is just drama and thats not what im looking for when I turn on wrestling. TNA and WWE use far too much story telling as opposed to in ring story telling.