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Stealth said:
Is it really necessary to post 6 times in a row? Don't believe me? Check out Siccness.net and count how many consecutive times you had a post up there.. kthx

On a more serious note: Sorry to offend you...if you believe that this win is significant, I do not want to rain on your parade. 1-0 in preseason man...if that's what gets you hyped up...you do your thing. I'm just trying to talk football.
yah once again our starters did get drived on and couldn't get it going together.. but again the ultime purpose of playing the game is to WIN,, and that they did.. our backups beat theirs.. plain and simple.... I'm tired of losing.. preseason or not... gotta get them Ws.....

it can be as nasty as it gets.. as long as the team gets the WIN

now lets just hopefully rack up some more Ws and by the start of the season Shell will have the starters out there ready to go.. this was basically a bonus preaseason game for the Raiders, still 4 more to go no hurry
 

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I'll never hate on anyone for being a fan of their team but the ultimate purpose of a preseason game is NOT TO WIN. Its to give your players reps to see how good they are.
 
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I'll never hate on anyone for being a fan of their team but the ultimate purpose of a preseason game is NOT TO WIN. Its to give your players reps to see how good they are.
that too...but honestly the players dont go out there to lose.. they want to WIN.. get it how you can, preseason or not.. earn your spot on that team.. the starters already know they gonna make the team, sluggish start or not
 

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Stealth said:
Is it really necessary to post 6 times in a row? Don't believe me? Check out Siccness.net and count how many consecutive times you had a post up there.. kthx

On a more serious note: Sorry to offend you...if you believe that this win is significant, I do not want to rain on your parade. 1-0 in preseason man...if that's what gets you hyped up...you do your thing. I'm just trying to talk football.
I wouldn't go as far as saying we would have gotten blown out but it didn't look good. McNabb used his weapons, the Raiders didn't. They didn't even attempt to throw to Moss.

Ras don't trip man, we'll see what happens as the pre-season goes on. Yeah it's mostly Niner fans that are doing the hatin'....
 

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I gotta go with Ras on the pre-season thang. You're out there to win regardless of who you're playing. Starters, 3rd stringers, etc.... You can still evaluate players while still trying to win. You do that in the process of winning or trying to.
 
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I gotta go with Ras on the pre-season thang. You're out there to win regardless of who you're playing. Starters, 3rd stringers, etc.... You can still evaluate players while still trying to win. You do that in the process of winning or trying to.
yep thats why you play the game.. to WIN ... while at the same time displaying your talent... the ultimate goal as a TEAMS stand point is to leave with the W tho.... let the rookies and the backups earn their jobs out there
 

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I understand that winning is important, and its good that you guys won. But you can't make the mistake of saying that the win has any type of indication about your team. I mean...do you guys really think that Andy Reid lost any sleep over the game last night?

Or to put it better...who was more pleased with their final product: Art Shell or Andy Reid?

I'd pick Andy Reid.

Who got the win: Art Shell or Andy Reid?

Art Shell.


I'm not hating on you guys and I do hope you do well throughout the season. I'm just saying...the significance of a preseason NFL win doesn't hold ANY weight in the NFL. What, offhand, was your preseason record last year? You don't know, do you?

The year the Eagles went to the Superbowl, they were 2-2 in the preseason. How in God's name did a team at .500 go to the Superbowl? Because it doesnt matter.

But Tony, I've been thinking this all day and I forgot to mention it, you made a good point: Randy Moss. You guys didn't use your best receivers, so it would be unfair for me to say that your first string was worse than the Eagles first string - except for the fact that your weakness is in your offensive line, and you could have had Moss and Porter out there and it wouldn't have made a difference.

This is nothing more than a scrimmage with referees, and it is practice. Valuable practice that your O-Line needs to mesh. And you're right...the players went out to win...but I doubt the pre-game speech was something Mel Gibson would have used in Braveheart before some crazy ass battle. Ya feel me? Congratulations on the win, but don't glorify it.
 

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Stealth, we're not glorifying or trying to brag (except to the Niner fans) or anything on this win. We're just saying that who ever is on the field is playing to win. To answer your questions I would say Andy Reid is more pleased with what he saw. McNabb went 3-3 and WestBrooks literally walked in the end zone. Reid probably could care less about the Eagles losing as long as his starters did what they're supposed to do. Put 7 points on the board, and then hold the Raiders to a 3 and out. That's what they did so in Reid's mind the Eagles are fine. Win or lose.

We know you're not hating on us. You're just saying don't put too much into winning pre-season games and we feel you on that. We're glad our team won so we can brag to the niner fans on here. The Raider fans on here know we need work especially on the offensive and defensive lines.

Art and the real Raiders know they need work especially with the starting units.
 
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the team knows they need a lot of improvment... Jordan said it himself.. Now with these 4 games left lets hope we do see improvements.. 06' RAIDERS
 
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Im not too worried. If the first unit doesn't improve by the final pre-season game Ill be a little concerned tho, especially with the O-line. Thing is, the last 3 years the starters on offense looked great through out pre-season but we all know how they ended up playing once the season started and carried on. Hopefully it turns out to be somewhat of the opposite this year and the offense improves throughout the season instead of getting worse.
 
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someone on the raiders board made a point why we shouldn't judge how a teams gonna be based on a preseason game.... Just look a this clip on the Raiders season opener last year at NE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI_Qujor9Q

they looked unstoppable.... oline was doin great, Jordan was doin' it, Collins & the WRs where clickin'.... never be quick to judge how a teams gonna be.. Now hopefully 06' Raiders will be a lot better
 
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LEE-ZILLA 69 said:
TSSSSSSSSSSSS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YEA EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT A WEAPON RANDY IS THE ONLY ONES WHO FORGOT WERE THE FUCKIN RAIDERS
good thing that guy that was boss is now on the other side of the bridge:devious: