Poor White People
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"Im a playa, therefore I don't support my kids"
"Im a playa, therefore I don't give a fuck if I fuck this bitch raw and give her some shit"
"Im a playa, therefore I prefer illegal activities to getting a degree and making legit money"
"Im a playa, therefore I will knock a mothafucka out who disrespects me, and fuck if he die"
What you were referring to as far as being virtuous was good. But the expectations and standards many black men put on themselves and live up to cause more harm than good.
"Black people don't swim"
"Black people have to listen to rap/r&b/jazz/soul"
"Black people have to vote democrat" etc.
Things you hear on a daily basis. Dave chapelle pokes fun at this with his "when keeping it real goes wrong" skit. Many people have written about black standards for black communities, "keeping it black", another variation of keeping it real, that causes people to close doors on themselves.
"Im a playa, therefore I don't give a fuck if I fuck this bitch raw and give her some shit"
"Im a playa, therefore I prefer illegal activities to getting a degree and making legit money"
"Im a playa, therefore I will knock a mothafucka out who disrespects me, and fuck if he die"
What you were referring to as far as being virtuous was good. But the expectations and standards many black men put on themselves and live up to cause more harm than good.
"Black people don't swim"
"Black people have to listen to rap/r&b/jazz/soul"
"Black people have to vote democrat" etc.
Things you hear on a daily basis. Dave chapelle pokes fun at this with his "when keeping it real goes wrong" skit. Many people have written about black standards for black communities, "keeping it black", another variation of keeping it real, that causes people to close doors on themselves.
literature on Poor Whites
Y'all should check out these books concerning "poor whites" perse:
Poor Whites of the Antebellum South by Charles C. Bloton
Masters of Small Worlds By Mc Curry (I cant think of her first name, ithink it's Mary)
In the PWAS book the author argues that there is a difference between poor whites and whites who are poor and also makes some interesting comparisons between the social status of free blacks and poor whites during the 20 years prior to the Civil War...
"An thaz all I've got to say about thayahtt!"
Y'all should check out these books concerning "poor whites" perse:
Poor Whites of the Antebellum South by Charles C. Bloton
Masters of Small Worlds By Mc Curry (I cant think of her first name, ithink it's Mary)
In the PWAS book the author argues that there is a difference between poor whites and whites who are poor and also makes some interesting comparisons between the social status of free blacks and poor whites during the 20 years prior to the Civil War...
"An thaz all I've got to say about thayahtt!"
are you trying to trick me into getting y'all to label me a racists on the sly?
i have a long track record of stating what i think on this board concerning whitefolx and even biblically linked them to being the curse of man due to greed...i have no time to reiterate myself, thus my sentiments concerning this subject are coherrent with askg's initial statement. but for the record i do not hate, condemn, or believe that i am better than any person that is void of color.
*disclaimer* "My best friends are white" :eyecross:
i have a long track record of stating what i think on this board concerning whitefolx and even biblically linked them to being the curse of man due to greed...i have no time to reiterate myself, thus my sentiments concerning this subject are coherrent with askg's initial statement. but for the record i do not hate, condemn, or believe that i am better than any person that is void of color.
*disclaimer* "My best friends are white" :eyecross:
YOU'RE ASSUMIN' THAT THIS PLAYA-LIKE BEHAVIOR IS ONLY IN THE BLAK COMMUNITY OR THAT IT INVOLVES NEgLECTIN' YOUR CHILD OR CONDONIN' THAT ATTITUDE. YOU ASSUMIN' THAT BEIN' A PLAYA IS EQUIVALENT TO ALL THE BAD SHIT IN THE BLAK COMMUNITY. WHEN I MEAN "PLAYA-LIKE" BEHAVIOR, I'M PUTTIN' IT IN THE CONTEXT AS IN A PLAYA IN THE gAME OF LIFE FILLED WITH ALL IT'S OBSTACLES. AND YOU CAN QUOTE ALL THE SELL-OUTS YOU WANT, IT STILL DON'T CHANgE SHIT. YOU AIN'T NEVA LIVED IN MY EXPERIENCE OR THE EXPERIENCE OF N-E BLAK MAN SO YOU CAN'T PERSONALLY SEE THE SHIT AND COMPREHEND THE gAME BUT LOOK AT IT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE(AS AN OUTSIDER).
See I was giving significance to your assumption of "playa-like" behavior. I understood you meant it as a way to reinforce positive behavior, specifically virtuous behavior.
What I was attempting to put across, though, is that many standards 'many', not 'all', black men adhere to are self-defeating, or have a negative impact on the community. Be a playa, be a pimp, be a raw dog, be a rogue, act in ways only uplifting to oneself, "get yours", and if it doesn't concern you, fuck it. Are they behaviors only specific to black america? No, of course not. But what is of discussion at the particular moment is the black community, specifically largely held ideals.
One thing you often stress is that black men are conditioned to be the way they are. This mentality could be a by-product of conditioning. Am I saying it applies to all black men, or maybe even a majority? No. But I am saying that there are many who see things this way, and until it is addressed, will continue to hinder the black community.
And call me an outsider, or ask me to quote sell-outs, but all that does is shut out a viewpoint, a potentially positive one.
What I was attempting to put across, though, is that many standards 'many', not 'all', black men adhere to are self-defeating, or have a negative impact on the community. Be a playa, be a pimp, be a raw dog, be a rogue, act in ways only uplifting to oneself, "get yours", and if it doesn't concern you, fuck it. Are they behaviors only specific to black america? No, of course not. But what is of discussion at the particular moment is the black community, specifically largely held ideals.
One thing you often stress is that black men are conditioned to be the way they are. This mentality could be a by-product of conditioning. Am I saying it applies to all black men, or maybe even a majority? No. But I am saying that there are many who see things this way, and until it is addressed, will continue to hinder the black community.
And call me an outsider, or ask me to quote sell-outs, but all that does is shut out a viewpoint, a potentially positive one.