Poor White People
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^SO DO BLACK FOLKS^
What you're doing is basing the white race on upper-class whites, and the black race on lower-class blacks; but that is a horrible error for one to make, regardless the disproportion. "White" people have "the perception of society"? That doesn't make sense. How can you have groups of white people living in the gutters; some in section eight housing projects; some middle class whites trying to make a living; upperclass whites running the whole damn show, all with different mentalities, all having the same perception of society? This is not humanly possible. How many "white" people have you dealt with before you based this assumption? And more importantly, what constitutes "the" in your statement? Is there only one perception of society that everyone is after?
Do you think your negetivity towards "whites" has aided your misperception?
I know mine differs from the one your labeling in the minds of white people, thus voiding any validity of that notion.
work force > work available + the greedy rich = poverty
What you're doing is basing the white race on upper-class whites, and the black race on lower-class blacks; but that is a horrible error for one to make, regardless the disproportion. "White" people have "the perception of society"? That doesn't make sense. How can you have groups of white people living in the gutters; some in section eight housing projects; some middle class whites trying to make a living; upperclass whites running the whole damn show, all with different mentalities, all having the same perception of society? This is not humanly possible. How many "white" people have you dealt with before you based this assumption? And more importantly, what constitutes "the" in your statement? Is there only one perception of society that everyone is after?
Do you think your negetivity towards "whites" has aided your misperception?
I know mine differs from the one your labeling in the minds of white people, thus voiding any validity of that notion.
work force > work available + the greedy rich = poverty
shit i was a poor white once, but then i showed them my arian express card at the bank and they gave me $60 gz in a jordan briefcase. foolish non whites will never figure out how we whites pretend to be poor, its all a cover. we may seem poor but we got at least 5 cars valeted on the front lawn.
this topic is a riot!lol
this topic is a riot!lol
"WHITE IS RIGHT" and ANYONE who believes an "EQUAL" playing field exists is a moron.
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11192
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11192
"Apparently, we even see them as our buddies. 75 percent of whites in one recent poll indicated that they had multiple close black friends. Sounds great, until you realize that 75 percent of white Americans represents about 145 million people. 145 million who say they have multiple black friends, despite the fact that there are only 35 million black people to go around."
LOL
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Real shyt. Im so tired of people, especially white people sayin that shyt is equal now. Its not equal and never will be. Lets be for real here, if race didnt matter in the real world, why on a job application do they ask race? I know its an optional question but if race didnt matter it wouldnt be there at all would it?
every1 knows it ISNT equal. but we have made great strides in the past 50 years and will continue to make more.
ask your liberal politians, that was their idea but here is the quick version. that question is the give minorities extra rights by identifying them and hiring them to fill quotas even if other NON-Minorities are MORE qualified.
ask your liberal politians, that was their idea but here is the quick version. that question is the give minorities extra rights by identifying them and hiring them to fill quotas even if other NON-Minorities are MORE qualified.
Sometimes it's hard for white people to realize the unequalness blacks have.
Take me for example:
I look at and treat every race the same
Mostly lived in the "black" areas of seattle all my life
Live with a black person
Fair representation of the population of blacks/minorities at my school
Listen to rap where the majority is black
Never see discrimination happening
So for me it's hard to believe that all this discrimination happens elsewhere BUT thats why I read stuff like this to get points of views from different races from different parts of the country.
Take me for example:
I look at and treat every race the same
Mostly lived in the "black" areas of seattle all my life
Live with a black person
Fair representation of the population of blacks/minorities at my school
Listen to rap where the majority is black
Never see discrimination happening
So for me it's hard to believe that all this discrimination happens elsewhere BUT thats why I read stuff like this to get points of views from different races from different parts of the country.
Who is this directed at?
Not discussing and pointing out inequities is continuing to provide excuses for white shortcomings. :-S
It's never equal. It never will be. But strides can still be made to succeed. Not pointing at the inequity achieves nothing and contributes to the racist "white is right" attitude that the majority of posters (in this thread) have *constantly* shown.
"Just sweep it under the rug johnny!"
"Sure pete"
:hgk:
Not discussing and pointing out inequities is continuing to provide excuses for white shortcomings. :-S
It's never equal. It never will be. But strides can still be made to succeed. Not pointing at the inequity achieves nothing and contributes to the racist "white is right" attitude that the majority of posters (in this thread) have *constantly* shown.
"Just sweep it under the rug johnny!"
"Sure pete"
:hgk:
"Just sweep it under the rug johnny!"
"Sure pete"
I ain't sayin ignore shit. I'm sayin what is actually gonna be the most helpful thing to minorities is to stop focusing on racism and inequity and focusing on success, which very much is possible in America today regardless of race, even if you are steps behind.
The mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck" is counterproductive in that it produces quota workers, and people who just want to do enough to get by, and not attempt to succeed.
Yes, it may be harder for a black man to own his own business, etc. But anyone attempting to own their own business is going to see many downfalls, struggles, and failures. Where the average person would buck up and keep going, many find a reason to blame it on white people, and thus have an excuse to quit.
"Sure pete"
I ain't sayin ignore shit. I'm sayin what is actually gonna be the most helpful thing to minorities is to stop focusing on racism and inequity and focusing on success, which very much is possible in America today regardless of race, even if you are steps behind.
The mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck" is counterproductive in that it produces quota workers, and people who just want to do enough to get by, and not attempt to succeed.
Yes, it may be harder for a black man to own his own business, etc. But anyone attempting to own their own business is going to see many downfalls, struggles, and failures. Where the average person would buck up and keep going, many find a reason to blame it on white people, and thus have an excuse to quit.
"ive been poor all my life and white but i always got by because my parents worked their fuckin asses off."
The majority of people in america have been poor since day one. It's good that your "parents worked their fuckin asses off" instead of looking for a check from the government each month. It's good that your parents were *blessed* with the ability to work and not be lazy.
"it isnt about color this aint the fuckin 60's"
If it's not about color what is it about Einstein? Please tell us. What do the 60's have to do with anything? Are you implying blacks no longer feel the sting of oppression? Your statement is a *PERFECT* example of the "sweep it under the rug, just get over it" attitude I make reference to.
"dood you act like black people still gotta hustle for factory jobs and opening barbershops and shit....i hope you learn sommthin from this thread"
They say "you can learn a lot from a dummy" but if it came from you I don't see the validity of the statement.
@White devil you said:
"I ain't sayin ignore shit. I'm sayin what is actually gonna be the most helpful thing to minorities is to stop focusing on racism and inequity and focusing on success, which very much is possible in America today regardless of race, even if you are steps behind. "
No one is denying success may be achieved in Babylon regardless of race, sex, religion etc etc etc. I agree with focusing on success but at the same time should I turn a blind eye to the banks that won't give me a business loan? Should I turn a blind eye to the renters or owners of buildings who won't allow me to lease/rent because of my skin color? MANY of you live in a very delusional world and you behave as if people don't experience certain discriminations.
"The mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck" is counterproductive in that it produces quota workers, and people who just want to do enough to get by, and not attempt to succeed. "
The mentality of "white is right" and "just sweep it under the rug and get over it" is counterproductive in that it produces racist white citizens (most of them partakers in blind racism) that keep the cycle of opression going and going and going and going and going and going and going...........The mentality *AND* actions of "white is right" *CREATES* the mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck". So address the root of the problem before you shift the blame to another party.
"Yes, it may be harder for a black man to own his own business, etc. But anyone attempting to own their own business is going to see many downfalls, struggles, and failures. Where the average person would buck up and keep going, many find a reason to blame it on white people, and thus have an excuse to quit."
Downfalls, struggles, and failures based on the economy, poor investments and lack of knowledge can and should be expected. Downfall's and short comings based on discrimination should *NOT* be expected ....after all "this ain't the fuckin 60's"....However these thing's do happen and when they do someone will find an excuse to sweep it under the rug. Yes they happen and it isn't wrong to say to yourself "I may be denied but I'll find another way". It isn't wrong to have it in your mind that you may be denied but at the end of the day you can try again. Who is the "average person" that you speak of? The average person lives check to check....the average person can't tell you the difference between an L.L.C and a C.E.O. With that being said, I would say you're incorrect when you say the "average person would buck up and keep going".
Did any of you pay attention to tony 206?
:hgk:
The majority of people in america have been poor since day one. It's good that your "parents worked their fuckin asses off" instead of looking for a check from the government each month. It's good that your parents were *blessed* with the ability to work and not be lazy.
"it isnt about color this aint the fuckin 60's"
If it's not about color what is it about Einstein? Please tell us. What do the 60's have to do with anything? Are you implying blacks no longer feel the sting of oppression? Your statement is a *PERFECT* example of the "sweep it under the rug, just get over it" attitude I make reference to.
"dood you act like black people still gotta hustle for factory jobs and opening barbershops and shit....i hope you learn sommthin from this thread"
They say "you can learn a lot from a dummy" but if it came from you I don't see the validity of the statement.
@White devil you said:
"I ain't sayin ignore shit. I'm sayin what is actually gonna be the most helpful thing to minorities is to stop focusing on racism and inequity and focusing on success, which very much is possible in America today regardless of race, even if you are steps behind. "
No one is denying success may be achieved in Babylon regardless of race, sex, religion etc etc etc. I agree with focusing on success but at the same time should I turn a blind eye to the banks that won't give me a business loan? Should I turn a blind eye to the renters or owners of buildings who won't allow me to lease/rent because of my skin color? MANY of you live in a very delusional world and you behave as if people don't experience certain discriminations.
"The mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck" is counterproductive in that it produces quota workers, and people who just want to do enough to get by, and not attempt to succeed. "
The mentality of "white is right" and "just sweep it under the rug and get over it" is counterproductive in that it produces racist white citizens (most of them partakers in blind racism) that keep the cycle of opression going and going and going and going and going and going and going...........The mentality *AND* actions of "white is right" *CREATES* the mentality of "recompense me for suffering through racism until I get a paycheck". So address the root of the problem before you shift the blame to another party.
"Yes, it may be harder for a black man to own his own business, etc. But anyone attempting to own their own business is going to see many downfalls, struggles, and failures. Where the average person would buck up and keep going, many find a reason to blame it on white people, and thus have an excuse to quit."
Downfalls, struggles, and failures based on the economy, poor investments and lack of knowledge can and should be expected. Downfall's and short comings based on discrimination should *NOT* be expected ....after all "this ain't the fuckin 60's"....However these thing's do happen and when they do someone will find an excuse to sweep it under the rug. Yes they happen and it isn't wrong to say to yourself "I may be denied but I'll find another way". It isn't wrong to have it in your mind that you may be denied but at the end of the day you can try again. Who is the "average person" that you speak of? The average person lives check to check....the average person can't tell you the difference between an L.L.C and a C.E.O. With that being said, I would say you're incorrect when you say the "average person would buck up and keep going".
Did any of you pay attention to tony 206?
:hgk:
What is being discussed here is less about race and more about class.
Classes are slowly becoming more important than race but not in any way do they at this point supercede race.
The point is that white people do have more opportunities to advance themselves. That is a truth due to the institutionalized racism that infliltrates every facet of our society. It is also true that the majority of wealth in America is controlled by white people. White people run the majority of businesses and control government and the criminal justice system. To not see this as a truth is to be blind and defensive. To not see that there have historically been barriers to stop other races from acquiring these same privileges is also ignoramous.
On the other hand, we live in a nation of skewed wealth, where 80% of our nation's weath is controlled by 20% of the population while the other 20% of the wealth is spread out among us commoners (the other 80% of the US). Most of the commoners are white, being that our country is around 60% white. It's a game of mathematics really.
The main problem lies in the fact that we would rather stay ignorant and confined to our own predjudices as different races of commoners, instead of banding together for change. The real master plan is to ensure we all stay separate and ignorant to each others struggles so that we don't unite and confront the real problems we all face.
That's the beauty of control and media programming. As long as we stay picking at one another, we'll never have the coordination to make change happen.
Classes are slowly becoming more important than race but not in any way do they at this point supercede race.
The point is that white people do have more opportunities to advance themselves. That is a truth due to the institutionalized racism that infliltrates every facet of our society. It is also true that the majority of wealth in America is controlled by white people. White people run the majority of businesses and control government and the criminal justice system. To not see this as a truth is to be blind and defensive. To not see that there have historically been barriers to stop other races from acquiring these same privileges is also ignoramous.
On the other hand, we live in a nation of skewed wealth, where 80% of our nation's weath is controlled by 20% of the population while the other 20% of the wealth is spread out among us commoners (the other 80% of the US). Most of the commoners are white, being that our country is around 60% white. It's a game of mathematics really.
The main problem lies in the fact that we would rather stay ignorant and confined to our own predjudices as different races of commoners, instead of banding together for change. The real master plan is to ensure we all stay separate and ignorant to each others struggles so that we don't unite and confront the real problems we all face.
That's the beauty of control and media programming. As long as we stay picking at one another, we'll never have the coordination to make change happen.