People will never be free, and you are powerless...

[MataSkonkas]

^^LOL!!!!

 

[JLMACN]

^^^you just told him you laughed at what he wrote...if you respected his believes you wouldnt take them as comical.

[HIDE]u are to dumb for me to reply to for you to see it

therefor you recieve the HIDE option.[/HIDE]

5000

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Heresey.. I don't agree with anything you just said...
especially about money...

My uncle lost everything and came to this country with NOTHING...
he got into the real estate business and is now a MULTI millionaire...

My step father's boss.. only has a HIGH SCHOOL education....
and smokes weed everyday.. and built a multimillion dollar car auction bidnezz.. on his own....

Making money is about working SMART and not hard... You have to form a plan.. then do whatever it takes to carry that plan out.

And these people did not even use Magick... and yeah magick with a K
the REAL magick..
If someone used real magick to help them make money, they could use it.. and also to put black magick on their enemies....

I know and have met millionaires and ballers personally, and they give me advice on how to make money and invest. and make my money work for me...

It's NOT about a dream.. it's about learning how to grab the money that is out there... if people spent more time making money and finding new ways to make money and saved their money and invested.. instead of posting for free on sites all day.. they would come up.....

You have to want to come up... in order to come up....
And it does not matter where you come from or what degree you got..
cause I know people with high degrees in computer science and math.. and they don't make SHIT... compared to this other guy my step dad works for who have millions.. and ONLY has a high school diploma...

LIke donald trump said.. Making money is an ART.. and once you master it.. skies are really the limit...
Same with magick and occult power you can use to get what you want.. but that is a whole other story... and goes against God... plus you need to be careful with it.....

ANOTHER important thing...

IT DOES NOT matter who you are.. or how fuckin RIch you are!!

NO ONE will ever be free of getting OLD .. SICK and DYING in the end... so in the end.. NO ONE will ever be free from shit..
since money and things are only an illusion in the higher planes. of existence.. and in the spiritual realms.. some of which are not even covered in the bible...

so everyone must die.. and he who Dies with the most toys..

STILL DIES!


this is all I have to say.. on the matter.. thanks

 

[HERESY]

^^^you just told him you laughed at what he wrote...if you respected his believes you wouldnt take them as comical.

I don't think you get what he was saying. He was saying he found some of it funny (which was supposed to be the case in some areas.)

 

[HERESY]

Heresey.. I don't agree with anything you just said...
especially about money...

I couldn't care less about you agreeing or disagreeing with anything I am saying, but the fact that I am going to take my time to destroy your post should not be confused with care.

My uncle lost everything and came to this country with NOTHING...
he got into the real estate business and is now a MULTI millionaire...

So? If the story is true that just means your uncle was in the 20% who DO change their economic status. Now as far as you not agreeing, I don't give a damn about that. You show me something to dispute the numbers I posted up. Until you do that you have no logical reason as to why you are disagreeing.

My step father's boss.. only has a HIGH SCHOOL education....
and smokes weed everyday.. and built a multimillion dollar car auction bidnezz.. on his own....

Where at? If he built a multimillion dollar car auction business does he have a website for it? Again, 20% of the poor change their financial status. Now, what about YOU, your father, brother, other uncles, other cousins, grand parents etc? Are you all millionaires like the two guys you listed?

Making money is about working SMART and not hard... You have to form a plan.. then do whatever it takes to carry that plan out.

How much money have you made within the last five years?

And these people did not even use Magick... and yeah magick with a K
the REAL magick..
If someone used real magick to help them make money, they could use it.. and also to put black magick on their enemies....

You know what? There is no need for carry on a convo with you. :dead:

 

[2-0-NINE]

Making money is about working SMART and not hard... You have to form a plan.. then do whatever it takes to carry that plan out.

Do you mean when you post in a site that gives you 10 dollars a month for posting there? LMAO!

 

[Hutch]

I'll leave the Rest for him to reply, but I got one question. What makes you thinking striving hard enough will get him a piece of that Million Dollar pie? How do you know that once it's close in his grasp, some one will strike his hands and all of his hard work will go to waste?

I'm not saying that if you work hard then you'll get a bigger piece of that million dollar pie - there is a good chance that it might get knocked out of your hands. At least you have a chance though - if you're not willing to work hard then you'll never get a bigger piece of the pie. People who spend so much time talking about how they want a bigger piece of the pie but are not willing to put in the hard yards to get it are full of shit and don't deserve it in the first place.

 

[Rob S4]

Well while you're at it kill yourself stupid ass. I never said his post would change anyone, but like Phoenix sun said there will be men that will try to establish better things in this world, only to be ridiculed for it. And Input aka Sixxness put it well, those men that ridicule those who try to make a difference ARE FUCK UPS in this society. Look at what you said So what does that tell everybody on the Board? While men are out there giving their time to make even the slightest difference, whether a theist or not, you're at home jacking off to some gay porn, at the same time listening to rappers, who some actually give a damn about Slavery. Yes it might be dead, but are you willing to pay for reparations? How do you know any of your ancestors had slaves you dumb fuck, and if you did do you plan on providing a mule and a few acres? Low Life Scum.

No I wouldnt pay anybody anything. You talk a great deal of hard thug lines. Can you back those up? I do not think so. Life is like chess you idiot. You never start out just making non-thought moves. You sit back and calculate until the time in which you see fit to move. Thats me. I wait. Your an idiot. While I study all aspects of life you sit on this board talking shit. I know your not about anything. I do as I please. When I wake up I accomplish something even if its the slightest thing. When you get up its to see if th latest gangsta rap video is on so you can emulate what the fake thugs do. I told you not to speak to me, do you not listen. BAKA.

 

[[ n a v ]]

i havnt read much of this thread besides the original post and select responses.

i agree with many of the statements in the original posting.
responding to the point of change,
i believe it is humanity's failure to learn from their mistakes that prevent change from lasting.
but i do not believe change is impossible. ghandi, mlk, jesus, all these people showed us that when one has achieved a certain level of understanding the oneness of all, they are able to make altruistic and egoistic motivations one in the same in their efforts to change.
for more on ^^that^^ refer to: http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=207479&highlight=immortalized+forever

It is only when you have mastered the art of loving yourself that you can truly love others. It's only when you have opened your heart that you can touch the heart of others. When you feel centered and alive, you are in a much better position to be a better person.

My point is that even before you realize that you and all the people around you, and all the people on the other side of the world suffering, and everybody in between, are one in the same, you should still act accordingly.
in others words

be the change you want to see in the world

.

just because the effects of many of the changes that HAVE been made sometimes cease to last or to work effectively throughout the world and throughout time, by changing yourself, you are closer to changing the world. by changing the world, even if it wont last, it will still provide an example for future generations.
without religious examples to fall back on, Ghandi would not be able to do what he did. Without the same examples + ghandi, martin luther king wouldnt either.
one should never dwell on the fact that change may not last, or that their actions may not provide the change they are aiming for. because in the end, [it is better to do something, and aim for change, than to do nothing at all[/b].
at least by trying, you might possibly make change happen, even if it lasts for a week, that week will serve as an example for the future and give hope. and even if you cannot make the change happen, at least your struggle and diligence will also be remembered, and possibly provide the future with hope inspiration.

again, the world is yours. treat life as though it is a dream that you have suddenly become lucid during. realize that you, like a/the creator, have the power to make changes. realize that you alone can make manifest anything you believe is possible. regardless if this is true or not, act as though it is and leave it at that. the boundaries of your life are merely creations of the self.

We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world

keep hope alive, love all, be fearless, and be present in your journey. don't worry about anything else, don't worry about anything at all. love God, and regardless if you believe in God or not, be God. See God in yourself, and pretend like this world and all this it includes is YOUR CREATION. IF ITS BROKEN, FIX IT. DONT SIT THERE AND LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS, AND SIMPLY TELL YOURSELF THEY EXIST. DO SOMETHING

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, "who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous?" Actually, who are you NOT to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We were born to make manifest the glory f God that is within us. It's not just some of us, its in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people the permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

 

[2-0-NINE]

No I wouldnt pay anybody anything. You talk a great deal of hard thug lines. Can you back those up? I do not think so. Life is like chess you idiot. You never start out just making non-thought moves. You sit back and calculate until the time in which you see fit to move. Thats me. I wait. Your an idiot. While I study all aspects of life you sit on this board talking shit. I know your not about anything. I do as I please. When I wake up I accomplish something even if its the slightest thing. When you get up its to see if th latest gangsta rap video is on so you can emulate what the fake thugs do. I told you not to speak to me, do you not listen. BAKA.

OK. Don't listen to rap, if you're going to justify using the word nigger, spick, or dog eater. Now I'm done.

 

[HERESY]

Why is this thread spread out like this? Someone needs to edit their post. I can't tell who it is, but please edit your post because it is hard to reply when the screen is like this. Thanks!

 

[I. Cold]

Why is this thread spread out like this? Someone needs to edit their post. I can't tell who it is, but please edit your post because it is hard to reply when the screen is like this. Thanks!

It's

HOPE FOR CHANGE?!?!?!?!??!?! HAHAHAQHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH

 

[HERESY]

I hadn't read his reply yet so thats why I didn't see it.

 

[HERESY]

No...

and awaaaaaayyyyyyy we go into the land of heresy........

Best place to be, brother!

i said the post, if they were your words, was purely emotional based on all of your contradictions and moaning. i expected more from the once great and prophetic heresy, and what i read did not align with what ive come to expect from him. your former posts while blind and full of misguided faith, always seemed to have an air of self respect, while this post was like listening to a 7th graders suicide note after he turned goth and still did not gain acceptance. while your at it, please tell where i have been disporved and rejected and shrunk into a corner, as im sure you put all of my posts in your favorites folder and have ready access to examples.

All of this is nonsense. See, I have shown that I can give it to you however you want it. Due to people moaning and groaning about the butchering of posts (which I actually DON'T like doing) I thought it would be best if I stick to a commentary/rebuttal format. As stated in the previous response, you are not familiar with "free writing" and you have provided no evidence to support your claim that it was emotional. As far as you shrinking into a corner YOU know when you do it, and I'm not going to remind you of all the times you do it, but I WILL remind you of one time (thats coming in a bit.)

haha this is good, what i meant to say heresy, since everything must be carefully laid out for you like your mothers folded laundry, is that if i were an occult quasi christian like you and bitched this much about life, then i would rather reside in heaven with big baby jesus than try to elicit reactions that i had already prophesized. i mean is this even worthwhile for you since you know and anticipate every reaction to your action? do you play powerball? and of course jesus plays next gen, but only poor people call the 360 the 360. it is of the xbox platform and while you may feel the need to excalim "360 bro", the rest of the people above poverty line still refer to it as xbox. i forgive you for your mistake though my son and so does jesus.

See how much stupidity I have to address? LMAO! Listen, no need to back peddle and whine like a sniveling worm. "What I meant to say is this" or "I meant to say that", if you weren't fumbling over your words and quick to type you would have no reason for changing it now. LMAO@"occult quasi christian". Another unfounded claim, and your use of occult is out of context--didn't I point this out before? Yes I did. Learn the DIFFERENCE between CULT and OCCULT. :dead:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=215015&page=6

In regards to the xbox claim, you said that poor people refer to it as 360, but if I show you a quote from Bill Gates calling it the 360, or one of the developers calling it the 360, will you shut up? Probably not so it doesn't matter.

i suggest that you belvie the numbers are static and unchaging? ahhaah you said youself over and over that things will not change. YOUR exact quote

"Listen, nothing is going to change the fact that 80% of the wealthy stay wealthy and nothing is going to change the fact that only 20% of the poor change their economic status"

You quote me and have no idea what you are really quoting, and that is why I said the gap HAS increased (which would mean some change has occured.) Nothing is going to change the fact. No protesting, no marching for this, no voting for that. NOTHING. Nothing you do is going to change these numbers and swing it your way (unless you are the 20% who do change their economic status.)

oh my god heresy dont make this so easy for me. you are providng your facts from IMF and UMDP for what purpose? nobody is contesting that information, you are using facts to make your opinion seem more substantiated, but nobody addressed the gap between rich and poor, what are you compensating for?

Pay attention to the words in bold. Now go back and read your original statement in response to the numbers.

like i said, you phrase things very well, but there is no substance, i never said the disparity has changed for the better, you simply say that i said that

Actually, I never said that you said it. Read it again.

but you bitch in other posts about how people put words in your mouth

SEE ABOVE

step off the soapbox man this is dissapointing, is this even the real heresy, or his little brother who logged on to his account?

Proof that you didn't read the post correctly, and if you are basing your rant on the "With that being said, are we to believe that things are getting better? According to the misinformed poster--you should." comment, you DID imply that things are better.

i made simple direct point in my original post. that your you assume your conclusion is true and use it as evidence that your conclusion is true, are you "sidestepping" this issue?

No, which is why I provided credible evidence to support the conclusion and stated claims.

ok so here you support my assertion when you say "snycretism and how it has changed relgiions" that people in religion have changed, because religions dont change, what like the words in your handy dandy book magically appear like the mormons? so here you agree with me and directly contradict your original post. again, not the heresy i expected, which is why i question you even writing the original post.

Please, go back in and retype this because I can't make heads or tails of it. I'll be happy to respond to it, but I think you need to correct the typos and add a bit more clarification before I can respond. I never really call you on your typos, we all make them, but I really want you to go back and change it up a bit so I can answer it.

accuse you of talking about the poor? ahahaha this is best thing you have written yet. "heresy is in there talkin about poor people, i swear it judge" hahaha what the fuck does this even mean?

Go back and read what I was replying to. You'll see exactly what it means.

again heresy, utopia, i know you religious types like the literal translation, but im eluding to your world view, which again you have just supported by talking about , else why bother mentioning so fervantly that "ther wil NEVER be an uprising of the poor that will result in global change?

Please, go back in and retype this because I can't make heads or tails of it. I'll be happy to respond to it, but I think you need to correct the typos and add a bit more clarification before I can respond. I never really call you on your typos, we all make them, but I really want you to go back and change it up a bit so I can answer it.

im comapring people to people, not fruits, my friend. you are the one making so many generalzation and assertions, its not my job to prove any point, but to point out where your assertions have failed. this is not apples to oranges, this is you constantly saying that things wont change, and all i have to do is give you examples where they have. i know you dont like my example, because it makes you look foolish. then you use straw man. i never mention urbanization, industrialization, slaves with fans, you do.

No, because the examples you gave are incredulous. You believe things have changed because middle class people may have better life chances than kings of the past. What you fail to realize is that the past systems of stratification are STILL IN PLACE, and that the KINGS are still on top, while the middle class and POOR are still on the bottom. The reason why I DID mention urbanization and industrialization is because you COULDN'T mention them. Again, you are comparing pre industrialized societies to post, and you are not considering the many factors as to WHY the people today may have better chances. The only thing you did was make a claim and provide NO SUPPORT. So yes, you ARE comparing apples to oranges. Both are fruit (in this case human) but they are DIFFERENT. TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOCIETY MY FRIEND.

now i dont comprehend economics?

HELL NO!

what, everytime someone doesnt kiss your ass and agree with you, you simply dismiss them as not having the knowledge, just like you accused me of with religion.

I prefer that people do NOT kiss my ass, but if people do kiss my ass, they end up getting the same treatment as the people who don't kiss my ass. That makes perfect sense, buddy.

Oh...the religion thing. I mentioned that earlier and here it is again. Let us look at what transpired and we'll see that you don't have much knowledge:

YOU:

thats why i mention his name and yours aside each other, you can claim you are not christian or whatever and that you have you own occult sidebar religion but you are a bible thumping old testament devotee who believes in hell etc

ME:

This is funny. I have my own occult sidebar religion? How can one have an occult side bar religion yet be a bible thumping old testament devotee who believes in hell? LMAO! Please tell me you meant I have my own CULT (which is different from OCCULT), because if thats not what you meant, your entire statement is DUMB! But peep game, even if you DID mean occult, it still doesn't make sense because it contradicts what you later say.

YOU:

ok if you think i havent read books about religion or studied religion, thats your opinion.

ME:

I seriously don't believe you have, and you have yet to type anything that proves otherwise. We can take your use of occult (which appears to be used OUT OF CONTEXT), and we can look at your claims of Mohammad and the age of his wives, and your entire claim of studying religions will come under the microscope.

Again, do we really need to do this? If so, lets get the ball rolling.

OH, but lets look at what originally paved the way for me to question your cred:

YOU:

because it represents one of the most horrific hypocracys of your faithsperhaps you haven't heard of the thousands of cases in the catholic church or the marriage ages of mohammeds wives, this wouldn't surprise me.

(EMPHASIS MINE)

ME:

Perhaps I have heard of the thousands of cases in the catholic church, but if Islam does not promote an "age limit" and an age limit is not an issue within the muslim community, how is it hypocritical?

(EMPHASIS ADDED)

You NEVER addressed that. And, as stated twice in that thread, all we need to do is look at your claims of Mohammad and the age of his wives, and your entire claim of studying religions will come under the microscope. The question is, do we need to do it?

and again you concede that things have changed. they just havent changed to the point or your utopia.

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm, irony and condescending speech.

congrats on the GPA heresy and your use of the word high to assure us of you educational prowess.

How do you assure us of your educational prowess? I don't even use spell check when I make posts (I post them, read them, then go back and edit), but you just put SHIT up and hope it sticks. BTW, I place STRONG emphasis on shit. Here is the deal, and hopefully you'll understand it. I don't need people here to validate my intelligence, but due to me NOT running around professing intelligence but simply doing what I do, people openly state the obvious.

and an internship at a law office?!?!?!??!?!?! holy crap, i mean wow, just wow, there is such a scarcity of law offices around and with the shitty pay of pi work, i mean how did you ever find that position, surely it was the gpa that got you the internship.

Actually, it was because law offices usually don't take interns unless the person has a high GPA or has been recommend by someone (at least in my area). It just so happens that I had both, and interning is a good thing. I am financially stable, so I don't need the pay. The experience is more of a concern because I can always list it on a resume and use the firm as a reference. It is OBVIOUS that you do not realize the benefits of doing this. :classic:

and here folks is where i should simply stop feeding this troll and shrink away in defeat. PI WORK FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST RANTED ABOUT NO HOPE FOR CHANGE?!?!?!?!??!?! HAHAHAQHAHAHHA the ultimate irony, genius heresy, fucking genius.

Would it surprise you that MANY people in the law field DON'T believe a change can be made? Some still do the job because it generates money, others do it because they simply enjoy it, and some do it because they are trying to help people because they understand that the system WON'T change. You can laugh all you want, but the purpose of me listing everything I did was to completely destroy your "life long employee with no aspirations" foolishness.

the black race? another heresy contradiction. and again dodge waht issue straw man heresy? you contend that the civil right movement didnt make any changes, but youve already conceded above that blacks arent being lynched. i grow tired.

What changes have the civil rights system made? The right to vote? Your vote still doesn't count when it NEEDS to count. The right to own homes? Blacks are STILL ostracized and forced out of white communities. Things have gone DOWN for black people. Sure, you have one or two who have made it, but look at the things I listed. High teen pregnancy, high incarceration, high hiv rate, etc. And when did I say blacks are NOT being lynched? YOU said it, and what I said was, "According to the poster, things have changed because blacks are no longer being hung"...:dead:

dont be so sure heresy, this was just a couple questions in response to your question, i seem to have you rahter worked up, but this was one of your prophecies that did not come to fruition.

Don't be so sure? Your questions were answered, but I like how you can't come back with anything to of substance. I love it!

highlight the fallacies heresy, i accuse you of presupposing change wont happen and then using numbers and saying that they wont change as proof, this occurs in your first words and destroys your entire post, but you still havent addressed that. i addressed all of your conclusions, which were basically that things wont change, by providing examples of change, to which you respond they havent changed enough, so i got you to reconsider your conlusions, which in philosopy and logic is also better know as "shitting all over you".

With this statement you will get my classic response of...

















































No.

nobody is killing themselves here heresy, did you miss the crux of my entire first response to you? it was to stop being such a whiny faggot and recognize that change has already occured and is possible, but of course you already conceded that in your lengthy but substance lacking response. now off to your PI work little boy and be the change you wish to see, even though you dont beleive in change

And how shall I respond to this? Hmmmmmmm...I could go sentence by sentence or I can recap it all...The jury is out for lunch now.

 

[MEXCOM]

Finally read this. I've been saying similar stuff all along. Things will always be the same. But hopefully might a little more time I'll address some of the comments on this thread and FINALLY get back into the whole GOM board.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Do you mean when you post in a site that gives you 10 dollars a month for posting there? LMAO!

So following up H posts with Google eyes and "Yeaaa!" fists is a better way to spend your time.

Get the fuck outta here wit your 17 a day career. Sittin in your Supermans postin all day on the Siccness...

And now you knockin somebody else for tryin to make a buck.

 

[2-0-NINE]

So you don't post in the siccness, right after you've finished playing 22 straight hours of RPG games?

 

[Talus]

Is it really all about money?
I mean I tottally understand that poverty is a bitch but now if your only goal is to get rich in this world you need to question your own values...
There are plenty of ways to make money if your smart.
acctually i dont even know why i bother saying anything at all on against this random rant directed at no one and everyone.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

And I'm trying to get your ass to think. We are divided over religion, education, social class, economic class, material items, political affiliation etc. As long as no one is thinking or questioning will change happen? NO!

I don't like typing stuff like this, but it came to that point. I think this board needs a lot more of the hard :H: stuff.

What do you want to happen? Suppose everyone gets an injection of heart and clears their veins of sugar water, what do you want to happen? I don't understand where all this goes. People are not equal, even if the playing field was leveled; it would only be temporary as the smarter/stronger/etc people would eventually take control of the weak again.

I am not defined by my possessions, nor am I obsessed with money. I could, as you have mentioned, live off the land for the rest of my life and be happy. Or I could play the game of life and enjoy the opportunities we have created for ourselves, endless amounts of information at our finger tips, the ability to travel all over the world, longer more active life, etc. If our infrastructure collapsed tomorrow, I would stake out a claim of land and never look back. Until that happens, I am going to play life in its current form and make the most money, marry the baddest bitch, and have the most power that I can. What is wrong with that?

 

[HERESY]

What do you want to happen?

Do you want an answer or was that a rhetorical question?

suppose everyone gets an injection of heart and clears their veins of sugar water, what do you want to happen?

Some type of change.

People are not equal, even if the playing field was leveled; it would only be temporary as the smarter/stronger/etc people would eventually take control of the weak again.

Thats up for debate. If the playing field is leveled, but some are more intelligent or stronger, it would take a high degree of morality to NOT take control of the weak and to treat them as equals.

I am not defined by my possessions, nor am I obsessed with money. I could, as you have mentioned, live off the land for the rest of my life and be happy. Or I could play the game of life and enjoy the opportunities we have created for ourselves, endless amounts of information at our finger tips, the ability to travel all over the world, longer more active life, etc. If our infrastructure collapsed tomorrow, I would stake out a claim of land and never look back. Until that happens, I am going to play life in its current form and make the most money, marry the baddest bitch, and have the most power that I can

Pay attention to the words in bold. You have contradicted yourself, bro.

What is wrong with that?

What is right with it? Is life all about you and marrying who you think is the baddest bitch? Is life about making as much money as possible and having power? Why can't life be simplicity? Why can't life be something outside of the five senses? Why can't life be freedom and knowing you helped someone? why is it always ME ME ME and I I I?