Pacquiao calls out Mayweather

[waldiejr]

LOS ANGELES -- Manny Pacquiao believes the biggest potential fight in boxing will never happen because Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants no part of him.

Pacquiao is training in Hollywood for his meeting with Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14, but the pound-for-pound champion spared a moment Thursday to consider his chances of fighting pay-per-view king Mayweather in what would be an extremely lucrative bout for both fighters.

"I don't think it's going to happen," Pacquiao says. "I'm sure he doesn't want to fight."

Pacquiao says Mayweather treats boxing too much like a business and doesn't care about entertainment value for his fans. Pacquiao is known for his crowd-pleasing style, while Mayweather is boxing's most accomplished tactician.

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[2-0-Sixx]

I can think of about 20 to 30 million reasons why Mayweather will fight pacquiao.


assuming pacquiao gets past cotto first

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Mayweather needs 2 simple circumstances to fight Manny.

1) He is 100% confident he will win. Not 98, not 99....100.
2) Money is right.

Literally in that order.

I still think Cotto vs PBF would sell more.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^Pacquiao is a way bigger star than cotto.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Mike Tyson is a big star, doesn't mean he will sell PPV's.

Not as many people go to see Manny as people think. All the Marquez, MAB, Morales, fights...those were pro Mexican crowds. DLH brought the crowd. Hatton brought the UK. Cotto is bringing Puerto Rico and any hispanic.

It's these people that make the difference in the PPV numbers. It's definitely not the Asian's doing all the PPV numbers.

Manny vs Floyd would do big numbers.
I just think Cotto vs Floyd would do just as much, and probably more. If he beats Manny, of course.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Pacquiao gets mentioned on ESPN on a semi regular basis. People know who he is NOW. PPV numbers against MAB, Marquez, etc mean nothing. Those fights, and in particular Oscar and Ricky, have made him what he is today. I talk to people all the time that know nothing about boxing. Most of those people know who pacquioa is, cotto, not a chance! It isn't just asians buying his PPV's, Pacquiao is a legit crossover star. I mean Shaq is calling himself Manny Shaquiao not Miguel Sha'cotto!

I see pacquiao clothing, tee shirts, paintings, etc. at various stores I've been to. That's a sign of a star. I picked up a painting of Pacquiao at the Puyallup Fair here in Washington, some hick ass town full of hicks. They had paintings of Elvis, Bob Marley, Marlyn Monroe, the beatles, 2pac. And manny pacquiao

They are talking about a Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight could very well be the biggest PPV event in history. So it would beat Mayweather vs Oscar, Mike Tyson vs ____. It's the single most biggest fight in boxing today.

My guess is a Mayweather vs Cotto would sell between 1 to 1.5 million.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao would do over 2 million, maybe even break the 2.4 mark.

 

[SC_408]

pacman vs mayweather would no doubt do at the least 1.7-2.0 million ....and people say boxing is a dying sport.......SMH

 

[Robby2Slobby]

pacman vs mayweather would no doubt do at the least 1.7-2.0 million ....and people say boxing is a dying sport.......SMH

They say that because there's only one fighter anymore capable of selling a big fight like that. Plus no heavyweight division. And most of boxing's biggest names are close to retirement.

I don't think it's true though.. Its not gonna ever be as big as it was in the past, but its not gonna die.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

It's an argument that neither of us can prove.

Saying Manny is who he is today due to MAB, Morales, Marquez, DLH and Hatton...is true. They were the ones bringing the numbers before. Not Manny. If you are saying that NOW it's the Manny show...we'll have to see.

I dont think Manny vs Cotto will touch his PPV numbers against DLH or Hatton.
Manny isn't the star, that's why. I can't argue the fact that you are saying starting now, he is the star. Time will tell...

 

[2-0-Sixx]

It's an argument that neither of us can prove.

Saying Manny is who he is today due to MAB, Morales, Marquez, DLH and Hatton...is true. They were the ones bringing the numbers before. Not Manny. If you are saying that NOW it's the Manny show...we'll have to see.

But that was true for almost everyone in boxing with exception to Mike Tyson and a few Gold Medalists.

I mean look at Mayweathers PPV numbers BEFORE Oscar de la hoya.
250,000
300,000
400,000


They looked exactly like Pacquiao's PPV numbers pre-Oscar. And people were saying without Oscar & Ricky Hatton, Mayweather isn't that big of a draw. Well he obviously proved that wrong in his last fight. Pacquiao is in the same boat (especially if Pacquioa vs Cotto does around a million or more buys, which is expected).

I dont think Manny vs Cotto will touch his PPV numbers against DLH or Hatton.

Not Oscar, but it will Ricky Hatton.

Manny isn't the star, that's why.

You're telling me manny wasn't the star against Hatton? Sure, AT THE GATE SALES were cuz of Hatton's British invasion, but the PPV buys were most definitely Pacquiao. I mean how many Ricky Hatton fans are there in the US? They live in the UK and those PPV sales are completely separate from HBO sales.

I can't argue the fact that you are saying starting now, he is the star. Time will tell...

I just don't understand how you are not seeing Manny's star power right now. Besides Floyd Mayweather, he's the only guy the mainstream media talks about.

But you're right, time will tell.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I don't know if UK sales aren't included in the final numbers. Even if they aren't, Hatton and Manny still get a cut from the sales. Manny probably made a killing on the UK side.

I do see his star power. Like you said, he just stepped into the mainstream limelight. He's pretty much the new face of boxing as of 6+ months ago, ask me who the face was before that and I couldn't answer you...boxing is shakey right now. People JUST started calling Manny out.

Let's see how it goes...

 

[TOKZTLI]

Mayweather won't fight Pacman because there is the chance he would lose. Boxing has gone to shit, I literally can't think of a fight I would pay to watch.

 

[SLRider510]

pacman vs mayweather would no doubt do at the least 1.7-2.0 million ....and people say boxing is a dying sport.......SMH

i love boxing... but come down to reality... wat other fights are gonna do that after that one happens????

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I don't know if UK sales aren't included in the final numbers.

They aren't because it's carried by a completely different network (not HBO, it's like Sky Sports or whatever they have over there).

That's why you can hear people say Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton did 900,000 PPV buys (HBO) and some people say it did like 1.5 million (the latter is if you combine the UK sales, but Ricky got like 100% of the profit from that).

Even if they aren't, Hatton and Manny still get a cut from the sales. Manny probably made a killing on the UK side.

See above. Ricky Hatton in both of his PPV's here in the US he got most, if not all, the profits from the UK. Thats just how the contract was written out and Ricky has contracts with Sky Sports (or whoever it was over in the UK that aired it).

 

[Mr.24&HOGAN-HSC]

mayweather wont fight pac-man or cotto he is a good fighter can't take that away but he is scared of a fight with another boxer that can whoop his ass!!!!!

 

[Ethereal]

Mayweather is a peice of shit. I was watching an interview on ESPN with him and they were discussing a fight with Pacquiao and he was saying Pacquiao wanted something like 40-50% of the earnings for the fight witch was an indication to him that Pacquiao did not want to fight him. Is that what it really boils down to? I know money is a huge factor but how could you undermine such a giant fight like this with one of the best fighters in the world because you are not taking in damn near all the money for it. And every time I watch him talking to someone he comes off as the biggest asshole in professional sports. I hope he gets his ass beat every time he fights.

 

[Tony]

Why would Mayweather be scared to fight Pac-Man?

And Pac-Man is the biggest pay per view draw, he has a whole country following him not to mention his fans in the U.S. as well. And before Mayweather whooped on Marquez, Pac-Man was at the top of the list in regards to being the top fighter rated pound for pound.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

That's how Mayweather promotes. Loud mouth black people have always sold fights. Ali, Tyson, RJJ, and even James Toney would do it. Talk a lot of trash and people will watch you. WWE does it well. The Heel (as they call it) get's more attention than the good guy.

Manny has a country following him, but that's the Philippines. I doubt that account's for very much revenue.

Enough money talk...

 

[bgrumpyp]

As much as I dislike Mayweather, I think he would walk out with a victory.
Not because I think Mayweather is that great, but because he doesn't like to exchange blows he will throw a few jabs and run. So in other words he won't let pac hit him

 

[T-Rip]

^^^ lol @ run, Mayweather doesn't run he picks people apart cuz noone can get through his guard and is one of the most accurate punches. Whether you like him or hate him you got to respect him as a great boxer.