"PAC-MAN stop taking the power pellets"
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that video is pretty retarded.
first off, as far as oscar goes, he looked like shit immediately after floyd against Stevie Forbes. If you haven't watched the fight, watch it. Watch how often Oscar was getting hit. Forbes even put a hairline crack in his orbital bone.
Second, let's not forget Pac was a 135 pound fighter at the time and fought oscar at 147. That's a HUGE jump in weight, and regardless if oscar was old or not, it's a good accomplishment.
The main reason Pac kicked his ass was his speed. Oscar couldn't do anything about the punches because like he said in his own works, "he was too fast" and "I couldn't see the punches coming."
Third, the whole video is based on Freddie Roach comments. Listen, Roach talks a lot of shit and he's full of contradictions, like most boxing personalities.
Lastly, let's just be real and compare resumes of the last few years for a second:
Pac fought Oscar (when pac was a 135 pound fighter)
Hatton at 140 (when Hatton was #1 LW champ)
Miguel Cotto at 147 (when Cotto was welterweight champ)
And now Clottey at 147 (Clottey ranked top 5 WW, nearly beat cotto)
Floyd has a great fight with Mosley (mosley is a champ at WW)
Floyd fought Marquez who was a LIGHTWEIGHT jumping two weight classes
Didn't fight for over a year
Floyd fought The Big Show on WWE
first off, as far as oscar goes, he looked like shit immediately after floyd against Stevie Forbes. If you haven't watched the fight, watch it. Watch how often Oscar was getting hit. Forbes even put a hairline crack in his orbital bone.
Second, let's not forget Pac was a 135 pound fighter at the time and fought oscar at 147. That's a HUGE jump in weight, and regardless if oscar was old or not, it's a good accomplishment.
The main reason Pac kicked his ass was his speed. Oscar couldn't do anything about the punches because like he said in his own works, "he was too fast" and "I couldn't see the punches coming."
Third, the whole video is based on Freddie Roach comments. Listen, Roach talks a lot of shit and he's full of contradictions, like most boxing personalities.
Lastly, let's just be real and compare resumes of the last few years for a second:
Pac fought Oscar (when pac was a 135 pound fighter)
Hatton at 140 (when Hatton was #1 LW champ)
Miguel Cotto at 147 (when Cotto was welterweight champ)
And now Clottey at 147 (Clottey ranked top 5 WW, nearly beat cotto)
Floyd has a great fight with Mosley (mosley is a champ at WW)
Floyd fought Marquez who was a LIGHTWEIGHT jumping two weight classes
Didn't fight for over a year
Floyd fought The Big Show on WWE
LMFAO!!!!!! Pac has been exposed... talk about how Mayweather has hand picked his opponents..... hahahahaha.... Pac picks his opponents after they've been smashed. Freddie Roach admits they go into fights looking for advantages. They didn't want to fight Shane because they hold no advantages.
Great video!!! The truth has been told!!
Great video!!! The truth has been told!!
Looks like Pacman is ducking the best welterweights. Let's see... the best welterweights are Floyd Mayweather and Sugar Shane Mosely and Pacman isn't fighting neither one of them. If Pacman can fight Clottey, Cotto, and Oscar at 147 why can't he fight Sugar Shane at 147?
He didn't fight Floyd because he didn't want to give blood after a certain cut off date and he won't fight Shane because???????????
He didn't fight Floyd because he didn't want to give blood after a certain cut off date and he won't fight Shane because???????????
Let me repeat that.... if Pacman can fight Oscar, Cotto, and Clottey at 147 why won't he fight Sugar Shane? Roach used "money" as an excuse, please.... if Pacman was so much of a big draw moneny wouldn't be an issue. I think they don't want to fight Mayweather or Sugar Shane because if Marquez/Morales can give Pacman trouble just think what Mayweather or Sugar Shane would do!
So Arum/Roach/Pacman just want to sell wolf ticekts and talk about how they'll knock Floyd out but won't step in the ring because he doesn't want to get poked in his finger 2 weeks before they fight? LMAO!!!!
So Arum/Roach/Pacman just want to sell wolf ticekts and talk about how they'll knock Floyd out but won't step in the ring because he doesn't want to get poked in his finger 2 weeks before they fight? LMAO!!!!
Ohhh, so Cotto didn't BEAT Shane Mosley??? Cotto was #1 at WW you fucktard.
And that video is biased as hell tony, you don't see that? Freddie Roach, Pacquiao and Bob Arum all said they will fight Mosley if he beats Floyd. In fact, Pacquiao is hoping shane will win because he believes it would be a much more entertaining fight.
And that video is biased as hell tony, you don't see that? Freddie Roach, Pacquiao and Bob Arum all said they will fight Mosley if he beats Floyd. In fact, Pacquiao is hoping shane will win because he believes it would be a much more entertaining fight.
Margarito beat Cotto (u said yourself you believe margarito had loaded gloves)
Shane beat Margarito
Cotto beat Shane
You can't say cuz shane beat the guy that beat cotto but lost to cotto makes him #1??
It doesn't matter because he was #1 at the time when pac fight him.
Pac is #1 currently, both pound 4 pound & at welterweight.
Shane beat Margarito
Cotto beat Shane
You can't say cuz shane beat the guy that beat cotto but lost to cotto makes him #1??
It doesn't matter because he was #1 at the time when pac fight him.
Pac is #1 currently, both pound 4 pound & at welterweight.
You gotta put it in the right order:
Cotto beat Shane
Margarito beat Cotto (with plaster)
Shane beat Margarito
which makes Shane the number 1 at WW, that's why he has the belt. So if Floyd beats Shane, then that'll make Floyd number 1 at WW and if Pacman wants to fight Floyd then the negotiations will get tougher because at that point Floyd won't need Pacman. Floyd will become the true champ at WW and reclaim his number one pound for pound status.
Cotto beat Shane
Margarito beat Cotto (with plaster)
Shane beat Margarito
which makes Shane the number 1 at WW, that's why he has the belt. So if Floyd beats Shane, then that'll make Floyd number 1 at WW and if Pacman wants to fight Floyd then the negotiations will get tougher because at that point Floyd won't need Pacman. Floyd will become the true champ at WW and reclaim his number one pound for pound status.
tony, are you on crack? I'm going by fact. From the ring:
CHAMPION: Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 50-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 15
Titles: WBO, The Ring
2. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 159
Titles: WBA
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 23
4. Miguel Cotto
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 34-2-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 169
5. Joshua Clottey
Country: Ghana
Record: 35-3-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 151
http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/
CHAMPION: Vacant
1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 50-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 15
Titles: WBO, The Ring
2. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 159
Titles: WBA
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 23
4. Miguel Cotto
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 34-2-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 169
5. Joshua Clottey
Country: Ghana
Record: 35-3-0 (20 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 151
http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/welterweight/
Shane should be number one because he destroyed Margarito who destroyed Cotto (when Cotto was number one)
Floyd is number 2 because he's 40-0 and was the man at WW, until he retired. Now that he's back, he's number 2 on the list.
Manny shouldn't be above 3 at WW until he beats Shane or Floyd period.
Floyd is number 2 because he's 40-0 and was the man at WW, until he retired. Now that he's back, he's number 2 on the list.
Manny shouldn't be above 3 at WW until he beats Shane or Floyd period.
That's fine if that's your opinion but it isn't reality. The fact that shane hasn't fought since margarito is what hurt him in the rankings. Anytime a fighter doesn't fight for OVER a year will result in slippage of rankings. Look at Bernard Hopkins (who was #1 at Light Heavyweight but has dropped to #3 do to inactivity).
LMAO, you can't be retired for 2 years, and not fight a single welterweight and expect to automatically be #2. You just can't. The fact that the ring even has him at #3 is a far stretch. After he beats mosley, sure he can be #2 or #1, depending on how he wins.
Again, your opinion is irrelevant. Pac has a BELT at welterweight, floyd doesn't and hasn't fought a single welterweight since Carlos Baldomir in 2006
LMAO, you can't be retired for 2 years, and not fight a single welterweight and expect to automatically be #2. You just can't. The fact that the ring even has him at #3 is a far stretch. After he beats mosley, sure he can be #2 or #1, depending on how he wins.
Again, your opinion is irrelevant. Pac has a BELT at welterweight, floyd doesn't and hasn't fought a single welterweight since Carlos Baldomir in 2006
Shane was scheduled to fight Berto to unify the titles but Berto canceled because of the quake. So don't act like Shane has just been sitting at the top and dodging fights. Shane should be ranked number 1 period until someone beats him. Too bad Pacman won't fight him since he's supposed to the best pound for pound and is currently ranked number 1 by ring magazine. What a joke....
Right, which still would have been over 1 year of innactivity.
I'm not saying he does that, what I'm telling you is that The Ring Ratings will slide you down a spot (or spots) based on inactivity. I didn't make the rules tony, I'm just educating you on how shit works homie. If you have a problem contact www.ringtv.com/ and submit your concerns with their panel of experts as to why you think shane should be #1...
Again, I don't give a shit what your opinion is, I'm stating facts.
What are you talking about? First off, like I mentioned, Pac/bob arum/Roach all said they will fight Shane if he wins. Pac also said himself he hopes shane wins because he believes Pac vs Shane would be much more entertaining.
Secondly, Pac didn't have the oppurtinity to fight shane because at the time, when floyd-pac negotations died, Shane was scheduled to fight Berto. The next highest rated availible weltwereight was Clottey.
So your talkin out your ass again man.
I'm not saying he does that, what I'm telling you is that The Ring Ratings will slide you down a spot (or spots) based on inactivity. I didn't make the rules tony, I'm just educating you on how shit works homie. If you have a problem contact www.ringtv.com/ and submit your concerns with their panel of experts as to why you think shane should be #1...
Again, I don't give a shit what your opinion is, I'm stating facts.
What are you talking about? First off, like I mentioned, Pac/bob arum/Roach all said they will fight Shane if he wins. Pac also said himself he hopes shane wins because he believes Pac vs Shane would be much more entertaining.
Secondly, Pac didn't have the oppurtinity to fight shane because at the time, when floyd-pac negotations died, Shane was scheduled to fight Berto. The next highest rated availible weltwereight was Clottey.
So your talkin out your ass again man.