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So is anyone going all the way with this course?
I would like to try the excercises. I don't think they will be a problem for me. I've been working out a great part of my adult life (27 now).
When I am at the gym I workout with light weights but I do 20 wraps each excercise, to condition my muscles and build up strenght.
At the moment I eat what I want because I don't really gain the weight and not holding the fat in my body.
But to hold up the diet part of this course seems like you have to really make a change in your lifestyle. And this is the part I don't really look forward to.
I would probably do the same as f31roger and just stick to healthy food, but I was wondering if anyone here did the complete diet part, and how did that work out?
@ f31roger; u practice BJJ? Because you want to train your grip and forearms?
I would like to try the excercises. I don't think they will be a problem for me. I've been working out a great part of my adult life (27 now).
When I am at the gym I workout with light weights but I do 20 wraps each excercise, to condition my muscles and build up strenght.
At the moment I eat what I want because I don't really gain the weight and not holding the fat in my body.
But to hold up the diet part of this course seems like you have to really make a change in your lifestyle. And this is the part I don't really look forward to.
I would probably do the same as f31roger and just stick to healthy food, but I was wondering if anyone here did the complete diet part, and how did that work out?
@ f31roger; u practice BJJ? Because you want to train your grip and forearms?
If you follow the p90x diet, you'll come out great with the exercises. I didnt follow thru with it bekuz the diet changes every 30 days (90 day plan).. but its really good. I know guys that do it to a T.. measuring food and this and that.. I dont have time to measure food or have a laundry list of foods to choose from.
yeah, I do bjj and sambo currently. I've done Judo, aikido and Small circle jujitsu in the past and grip is a factor in these.
I like to indoor climb too, so it really helps with doing small finger holds or campus board stuff.
While its great to have grip for martial arts, I feel its good to have a decent grip in general. Grip is probably the most neglected aspect of training.. unless you specifically train for it. I remember all I did before to train my lower arm was forearm curls. Now i train more indept with it.
I tell this to anyone wanting to work out. What's your goals? How do you wanna train? My goal was to be "athletic strong" with all my training being "functional". Grip is so functional to me as far as what I participate in, but is another avenue of working out. its pretty damn interesting.
You gotta wonder how power lifters can hold 600 lbs in the hands when doing deadlifts. That grip is key.
Most of the guys I know that do grip, are into powerlifting.. so they are pretty strong. While I dont have their strength, I also dont have the power lifter's body composition.
When people say grip, their are many aspects of it:
Crush grip
Blob grips (smooth surfaces)
Pinch grip with 45 lbs plates
Pinch grip with pinch block (slips, say hello to ripped skin)
Pinch lifting wit a quarter
Euro Pinch lifting
V Bar (gotta order it)
Hub lifts (gotta have a plate with a hub, York plates)
Sledge hammer leveraging (harder than it looks)
Sledge hammer deadlifts (hard too.. Rex killin it)
Finger lifting
Of course there is bending as well
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I added grip to my P90x workouts because I KNOW it was something I missed. With P90x, grip and conditioning, my perspectives on working out has changed. But these were my goals.. some people have goals of getting big and lifting.
yeah, I do bjj and sambo currently. I've done Judo, aikido and Small circle jujitsu in the past and grip is a factor in these.
I like to indoor climb too, so it really helps with doing small finger holds or campus board stuff.
While its great to have grip for martial arts, I feel its good to have a decent grip in general. Grip is probably the most neglected aspect of training.. unless you specifically train for it. I remember all I did before to train my lower arm was forearm curls. Now i train more indept with it.
I tell this to anyone wanting to work out. What's your goals? How do you wanna train? My goal was to be "athletic strong" with all my training being "functional". Grip is so functional to me as far as what I participate in, but is another avenue of working out. its pretty damn interesting.
You gotta wonder how power lifters can hold 600 lbs in the hands when doing deadlifts. That grip is key.
Most of the guys I know that do grip, are into powerlifting.. so they are pretty strong. While I dont have their strength, I also dont have the power lifter's body composition.
When people say grip, their are many aspects of it:
Crush grip
Blob grips (smooth surfaces)
Pinch grip with 45 lbs plates
Pinch grip with pinch block (slips, say hello to ripped skin)
Pinch lifting wit a quarter
Euro Pinch lifting
V Bar (gotta order it)
Hub lifts (gotta have a plate with a hub, York plates)
Sledge hammer leveraging (harder than it looks)
Sledge hammer deadlifts (hard too.. Rex killin it)
Finger lifting
Of course there is bending as well
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I added grip to my P90x workouts because I KNOW it was something I missed. With P90x, grip and conditioning, my perspectives on working out has changed. But these were my goals.. some people have goals of getting big and lifting.
I know man, the diet just seems too much of making a lifestye change. While that just seem too much work for me (at the moment).
I know some dudes who also deadlift and always where complaining. "I can lift x amout of kilo's but I cand hold it because I don't have the power hold on to the weights in my hands" so they also started working on their forearms and grip. They also practiced BJJ.
For me, my goals are also to have athletic strenght; I practice Yin&Yang Kempo (from what I've seen on youtube I think you can more or less compare this to American Kempo).
And Kun Tao Macan (also from what I've seen on youtube and from what I know you can compare this to the so called Kun Tao Silat from the Thouars fam. we use the same movements).
But also lung capacity and stamina, both are messed up for me at the moment.
Because I don't train for competitions I never really needed both... but now I want to live a bit healthier and I am out of breath when I need to sprint for the bus, so I want to see what this program can do for me. If I can build some conditining this way. (next to running).
Good looking out on the grip video's, I agree most people neclect this part of the training, this and calfs which is funny to me seeing this big ass dudes with toothpick legs.
I could use a little strenght in my forearms aswell. I'll try to put one or two of this excercises in my program.
I know some dudes who also deadlift and always where complaining. "I can lift x amout of kilo's but I cand hold it because I don't have the power hold on to the weights in my hands" so they also started working on their forearms and grip. They also practiced BJJ.
For me, my goals are also to have athletic strenght; I practice Yin&Yang Kempo (from what I've seen on youtube I think you can more or less compare this to American Kempo).
And Kun Tao Macan (also from what I've seen on youtube and from what I know you can compare this to the so called Kun Tao Silat from the Thouars fam. we use the same movements).
But also lung capacity and stamina, both are messed up for me at the moment.
Because I don't train for competitions I never really needed both... but now I want to live a bit healthier and I am out of breath when I need to sprint for the bus, so I want to see what this program can do for me. If I can build some conditining this way. (next to running).
Good looking out on the grip video's, I agree most people neclect this part of the training, this and calfs which is funny to me seeing this big ass dudes with toothpick legs.
I could use a little strenght in my forearms aswell. I'll try to put one or two of this excercises in my program.
I've been in/out of martial arts since I was 6. While I think MMA is awesome, I'd rather learn things individually, so you dont get "bits and pieces" from each art. I fully support traditional martial arts.
P90x changed me bekuz it made me do things I didnt want to do. I kept putting things off and said to myself "when I get in better condition".. and all i did was lift heavy. Stuck to the same routine I did years ago (chest and tris - back and bi-legs).
I'm a sprinter, so distance was my enemy. As for explosive power, Plyo X is great. I reached a 42" box jump and 9ft broad jump.
This will kill your calves. When you do insantiy, Plyo cardio will kill you calves.. the mummy kicks will do it the most.
My basic grip training with out the V bar, pinch block or hand grippers, were wrist bends left and right, up and down, plate curls , gripping 25 lbs dumbbells on the edge(hex dumbbells) and pinching plates. get on a pull up bar and hang by finger tips... of if you want, buy a finger board.. basically hold on by finger tips.
Remember, there are 2 ways to grip, close grip and open grip (fingers)
If you got small towels, wrap those around the dumbbell/barbell and use it. Since you hand is gripping a bigger surface, you will have to put more force on your hand to keep grip.
You can also use a towel for pull ups or cable rows.. this will work your grip.. but be careful too. Overdoing it is easy. I do cable rows with 150lbs.. I did it with a towel and after 3 sets of 10.. my forearms were killed.. couple weeks later, my forearms/grip hurt. I got tennis elbow and it hurt to grip shit.
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I bought P90x and P90x Plus.. Great programs and worth the money.
Everything Tony Horton says, works. He talks about not being able to do pull ups...changing your mindset to currently cant do them, but will eventually. When I started Chest/back... pull ups were my weakness.
I could barely do one. After a few weeks, I decided to see how many I could do with neutral grip and I was able to 6...which blew me away. I've been doing all the back exercises in my life and I couldnt do pull ups. After that, I looked at ways to work on pull ups and came across the recon ron pull ups program, which made you do pull ups everyday. After a week of soreness from it... I started to notice I could do alot more... So I do pull ups, chin ups and commando pull ups routine every other day outside of my normal workout.... its pretty bad.. I'm addicted to pull ups.
P90x changed me bekuz it made me do things I didnt want to do. I kept putting things off and said to myself "when I get in better condition".. and all i did was lift heavy. Stuck to the same routine I did years ago (chest and tris - back and bi-legs).
I'm a sprinter, so distance was my enemy. As for explosive power, Plyo X is great. I reached a 42" box jump and 9ft broad jump.
This will kill your calves. When you do insantiy, Plyo cardio will kill you calves.. the mummy kicks will do it the most.
My basic grip training with out the V bar, pinch block or hand grippers, were wrist bends left and right, up and down, plate curls , gripping 25 lbs dumbbells on the edge(hex dumbbells) and pinching plates. get on a pull up bar and hang by finger tips... of if you want, buy a finger board.. basically hold on by finger tips.
Remember, there are 2 ways to grip, close grip and open grip (fingers)
If you got small towels, wrap those around the dumbbell/barbell and use it. Since you hand is gripping a bigger surface, you will have to put more force on your hand to keep grip.
You can also use a towel for pull ups or cable rows.. this will work your grip.. but be careful too. Overdoing it is easy. I do cable rows with 150lbs.. I did it with a towel and after 3 sets of 10.. my forearms were killed.. couple weeks later, my forearms/grip hurt. I got tennis elbow and it hurt to grip shit.
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I bought P90x and P90x Plus.. Great programs and worth the money.
Everything Tony Horton says, works. He talks about not being able to do pull ups...changing your mindset to currently cant do them, but will eventually. When I started Chest/back... pull ups were my weakness.
I could barely do one. After a few weeks, I decided to see how many I could do with neutral grip and I was able to 6...which blew me away. I've been doing all the back exercises in my life and I couldnt do pull ups. After that, I looked at ways to work on pull ups and came across the recon ron pull ups program, which made you do pull ups everyday. After a week of soreness from it... I started to notice I could do alot more... So I do pull ups, chin ups and commando pull ups routine every other day outside of my normal workout.... its pretty bad.. I'm addicted to pull ups.
Thanks, I only had a quick look on the diet, it seemed like a lot of work, more then the excercises routine.
I'll try to do a small study on the diet and try to come up with something that works for me. I don't really need to lose that much weight because I hardly have any at this point allready..
So that will probably look something like low/mid carb/high protein stay away from fat (the bad ones) and sugar as much as possible.
Did you finish the whole 90 day's? If so... what happend to your diet after the 90 day's? Because most people (in general) will go back to their old habbits...
I'll try to do a small study on the diet and try to come up with something that works for me. I don't really need to lose that much weight because I hardly have any at this point allready..
So that will probably look something like low/mid carb/high protein stay away from fat (the bad ones) and sugar as much as possible.
Did you finish the whole 90 day's? If so... what happend to your diet after the 90 day's? Because most people (in general) will go back to their old habbits...
I've been in and out of MA since I was 7, started with Judo, until I was 10 only 3 years so early in life but I still carry the advantaces with me until this day.
I really enjoy watching MMA, I didn't understand the ground part at first and thought it was boring, but then I understood some BJJ concepts and started to appreciate more and more.
At the gym we also have a pull up bar. Since a few weeks ago I've been trying now. First I could barely do one (wide grip). But now I am building up and do this everytime I go to the gym. I know that you get a lot of strenght from doing this excercise so it's one of my fav's too.
I would like to do them at home but I don't think I have the ability to.
First I would like to examin all the documentation, and prefably print them out. And see what I will do with the diet before I start.
I think somewhere next week.
I also heard him speak about a hart monitor. I borrowed one from my dad, did you use one? Tony said this way you'll know you're not slacking because you can see when you are below the average heart rate. And you'll know when to take a step back. Or did you feel it wasn't really that neccesary?
Ps sorry for the bad English.
I really enjoy watching MMA, I didn't understand the ground part at first and thought it was boring, but then I understood some BJJ concepts and started to appreciate more and more.
At the gym we also have a pull up bar. Since a few weeks ago I've been trying now. First I could barely do one (wide grip). But now I am building up and do this everytime I go to the gym. I know that you get a lot of strenght from doing this excercise so it's one of my fav's too.
I would like to do them at home but I don't think I have the ability to.
First I would like to examin all the documentation, and prefably print them out. And see what I will do with the diet before I start.
I think somewhere next week.
I also heard him speak about a hart monitor. I borrowed one from my dad, did you use one? Tony said this way you'll know you're not slacking because you can see when you are below the average heart rate. And you'll know when to take a step back. Or did you feel it wasn't really that neccesary?
Ps sorry for the bad English.
Only reason why you need a heart monitor is to make sure you are in within your range... some times you can get above..or you might not be pushing your self enough to be in that range.
I didnt feel it was necessary.. but I do feel I wish I did all the measurements... I didnt care at first. after about 30 days.. I just started keeping track. My first round of P90x was all messing around.
I didnt feel it was necessary.. but I do feel I wish I did all the measurements... I didnt care at first. after about 30 days.. I just started keeping track. My first round of P90x was all messing around.