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Are you a Muslim Scholar? No, so you have no clue what it means to be Sunni in the first place.
First of all, they claimed to be Sunni, just like Mormons CLAIM to be Christian but then practice things that other sects of Christianity abhor.
Bin Laden is not really a Sunni, and even then he would call himself a Wahhabist Sunni, and that is a very blasphemous 'word' of Islam.
Of course he cited single verses of the Qu'ran just like many Christians cite obscure ass things from the Bible when they want to be against abortion or gay rights. You can take anything to back up your agenda.
First of all, they claimed to be Sunni, just like Mormons CLAIM to be Christian but then practice things that other sects of Christianity abhor.
Bin Laden is not really a Sunni, and even then he would call himself a Wahhabist Sunni, and that is a very blasphemous 'word' of Islam.
Of course he cited single verses of the Qu'ran just like many Christians cite obscure ass things from the Bible when they want to be against abortion or gay rights. You can take anything to back up your agenda.
If you try to draw Prophet Muhammad and your a non-muslim, it doesn't fucking matter one bit. You are already considered a blasphemer and you will be spending eternity in Hell because you have not converted to Islam (Just like Christianity and Judaism says for their own religion).
Of course if you live in an area that does not give you the correct knowledge about the Religion, and you do not become Muslim then you are not sent to hell for it. Also if you live in an area that has no Muslims, and you believe god is the creator of everything, has no partners or needs, and you have no way to even know of a thing called Islam then you go straight to heaven as well.
There is also very nice sufistic aspects that go on more about this, and the more you learn the more you see that its not for just scaring people, just like Christianity and Judaism, but also for a way to advance your spiritual evolution in a quicker speed.
Of course if you live in an area that does not give you the correct knowledge about the Religion, and you do not become Muslim then you are not sent to hell for it. Also if you live in an area that has no Muslims, and you believe god is the creator of everything, has no partners or needs, and you have no way to even know of a thing called Islam then you go straight to heaven as well.
There is also very nice sufistic aspects that go on more about this, and the more you learn the more you see that its not for just scaring people, just like Christianity and Judaism, but also for a way to advance your spiritual evolution in a quicker speed.
so what? Those were extremists. This should be common sense but apparently not...you don't label an entire religion based on the actions of a few minority. Again, should all Catholic Churches but banned from being built in close proximity of any children areas such as schools, playgrounds, parks, etc.?
why doesn't anyone answer my question though? should people protest Catholic churches next to schools, playgrounds, etc.? This is a serious question.
Again, those extremists being mulsim shouldn't have anything to do with a religious center being built in NYC. Freedom of religion and all that is still america is it not?
Christian extremists that kill homosexuals or bomb abortion clinics shouldn't represent all of Christianity, correct? Same goes for the Muslim extremists which are a tiny minority of the over 1.5 billion Muslim people. People with brains should be able to distinguish the difference between being religious and being a religious nutbag. Apparently in america (and Australia) this common sense is lacking
Again, those extremists being mulsim shouldn't have anything to do with a religious center being built in NYC. Freedom of religion and all that is still america is it not?
Christian extremists that kill homosexuals or bomb abortion clinics shouldn't represent all of Christianity, correct? Same goes for the Muslim extremists which are a tiny minority of the over 1.5 billion Muslim people. People with brains should be able to distinguish the difference between being religious and being a religious nutbag. Apparently in america (and Australia) this common sense is lacking
I agree with you though on that level, however I myself still have resentment for islam, judaism, christianity, catholocism, scientology, the east, the west and humanity in general. So yes, don't build a church with kid fuckers near schools.
But then again I'm the wrong person to be answering that question.
My point 2-0, is that if the victims families don't want it (even though it's not the fault of entire islam) it should be respected and that iman should not go ahead and build a community center (where they pray ^_^) and build it somewhere else, or even build a 9/11 museum or something.
But then again I'm the wrong person to be answering that question.
My point 2-0, is that if the victims families don't want it (even though it's not the fault of entire islam) it should be respected and that iman should not go ahead and build a community center (where they pray ^_^) and build it somewhere else, or even build a 9/11 museum or something.
I think they should, if people can protest abortion clinics they should be able to protest a church or whatever they deem worthy of protesting.
Although I think the hypothetical people protesting the catholic church would be better off protesting the school board for being in such shitty shape as it is. Also, the unified school system hasn't exactly been pedophile free either. Most protests are misguided energy anyway because they are so reactionary in nature, no one critically thinking about how to better the situation. Too busy worrying about stopping the one thing that pushed them over the edge to warrant action, when they should think about why they were on the edge to begin with.
Although I think the hypothetical people protesting the catholic church would be better off protesting the school board for being in such shitty shape as it is. Also, the unified school system hasn't exactly been pedophile free either. Most protests are misguided energy anyway because they are so reactionary in nature, no one critically thinking about how to better the situation. Too busy worrying about stopping the one thing that pushed them over the edge to warrant action, when they should think about why they were on the edge to begin with.
Lol @ pointing out prayer as something to worry about Outcast Outlaw. Do you know what a Islamic Prayer consists of? Do you understand what the rak'ah even means?
I know many spiritual Christians who pray in a regulatory manner and conduct their business exactly the same as Muslims, the other difference is they don't cover their hair and they call themselves a different name. Islam states that the original and correct message of Christianity that is not fucked up from the bible (which WAS written well after Jesus' death) is the same message as Islam, and just like the original Jewish Torah is the same message as Islam. All correct forms that have not been dictated by people's writings are considered Islam since God stated he would put a prophet and/or messenger in every land.
I think I've met more spiritual Christians and spiritual Muslims that are almost exactly alike than any other religious comparison. I've also read up on spiritual Rabbi's that remind me of some spiritual Sheikh's.
These people do not deserve to be discriminated upon, and that is where I base my own crusade against ignorant stereotyping and fear-based ideals.
I know many spiritual Christians who pray in a regulatory manner and conduct their business exactly the same as Muslims, the other difference is they don't cover their hair and they call themselves a different name. Islam states that the original and correct message of Christianity that is not fucked up from the bible (which WAS written well after Jesus' death) is the same message as Islam, and just like the original Jewish Torah is the same message as Islam. All correct forms that have not been dictated by people's writings are considered Islam since God stated he would put a prophet and/or messenger in every land.
I think I've met more spiritual Christians and spiritual Muslims that are almost exactly alike than any other religious comparison. I've also read up on spiritual Rabbi's that remind me of some spiritual Sheikh's.
These people do not deserve to be discriminated upon, and that is where I base my own crusade against ignorant stereotyping and fear-based ideals.
I'm not defending priests or the catholic church, they're a bunch of leeches.
But food for thought on rapists:
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/
But food for thought on rapists:
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/
I would bet dollars to donuts that if we were in fact "battling" multiple Catholic terror organizations that you wouldn't have the mental capacity to distinguish the group we are battling from the rest of the Catholic groups around the world.
You are like a walking textbook example for xenophobia, ethnocentrism, cognitive bias, stereotyping, emotional bias, and general logical fallacies to name a few glaring examples.
Your beliefs on immigration only reinforce those same limiting characteristics that are glaringly obvious here.
In your world; Muslims are terrorists. The fact that the percentage of Muslims who are terrorists is incredibly small compared to the majority seems completely irrelevant and/or incomprehensible to you.
That fact in and of itself provides all the insight in your inability to think with any type of logic.
Rather than argue with any type of substance, your rely on hyperbole and insights of limited intelligence.
You hold the things you know and understand to a totally different standard then the things you don't know and understand.
Not understanding something lends no logical reason to fear it, and it seems like your arguments all stem from a limited understand and bias based on fear.