**Official AMC show "The Walking Dead" Thread - MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS**
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FRANK DARABONT GOT FIRED.
That's what happened. All those loose ends (helicopter, black dude and son w/ walkie talkies, MERYL) have all been shelved and/or forgotten in favor of narrative-driven emotional bullshit like chasing down that little girl and dealing with that ho's pregnancy.
The only thing I hope for next week is that they get the fuck off the farm for a couple of episodes like it seems they will be from what I could see of next week's teaser.
That's what happened. All those loose ends (helicopter, black dude and son w/ walkie talkies, MERYL) have all been shelved and/or forgotten in favor of narrative-driven emotional bullshit like chasing down that little girl and dealing with that ho's pregnancy.
The only thing I hope for next week is that they get the fuck off the farm for a couple of episodes like it seems they will be from what I could see of next week's teaser.
yes, frank darabont had a master plan to open season 2 with a whole flashback episode to the begininng of the zombie apocalypse, where tanks would be driving around, helicopters flying around, and zombies were being mowed down with machine guns and shit until they eventually overran the military personnel. it would have been like the street in atlanta that rick got stuck in the tank in, it would have showed us what happened. that makes it seem like he had epic ideas but got fired and then the show went to shit.
but frank darabont still developed the first half of season 2 before he got fired. so hes still responsible for basically ruining what could have been an epic show. yes, budget constraints and all that were forced, which is part of why he got fired, he was overly ambitious and wanted to spend millions of dollars developing episodes that werent even central to the main story. but he was still responsible for the "narrative-driven emotional bullshit", and id put any amount of money that the second half of season 2, which lacks his control, will be much much better than the shit he tried to pull with the beginning of season 2
but frank darabont still developed the first half of season 2 before he got fired. so hes still responsible for basically ruining what could have been an epic show. yes, budget constraints and all that were forced, which is part of why he got fired, he was overly ambitious and wanted to spend millions of dollars developing episodes that werent even central to the main story. but he was still responsible for the "narrative-driven emotional bullshit", and id put any amount of money that the second half of season 2, which lacks his control, will be much much better than the shit he tried to pull with the beginning of season 2
Whenever anyone credits a guy for an amazing job in creating an awesome show but then faults him in the same breath for doing what his bosses are limiting him to before they fire him - then the analysis is misleading and worthless.
Anyone can see that the guys holding the checkbooks and firing the man for being "overly ambititous" are the reason the show turns into a soap opera. I doubt the show will "turn around" now that the financial guys are running it. Sounds like more zombie cliches are in the works for part 2.
This isn't the only instance a creative, innovative show gets gutted by bottom-line producers. TV is littered with examples.
Anyone can see that the guys holding the checkbooks and firing the man for being "overly ambititous" are the reason the show turns into a soap opera. I doubt the show will "turn around" now that the financial guys are running it. Sounds like more zombie cliches are in the works for part 2.
This isn't the only instance a creative, innovative show gets gutted by bottom-line producers. TV is littered with examples.
remember the whole shit with andreas sister, tells a dramatic ass story for 20 minutes of the episode then she dies, like what was the fuckin point? yeah, that was all frank right there. that was episode 5 of the first season. the shit was alreayd a fuckin soap opera, no amount of zombie annihilation or flashly cgi and tanks and helicopters was going to fix where frank would have brought the show / HAS brought the show. the whole shit with the pedofile dad and sophia and all that shit, lol wtf is that about. weird ass shit. if anything, i never praised frank and im glad darabont got fired
tv is also littered with examples of shows that were shot with handi-cams with little to no budget, and they became epic shows. it doesnt take millions to make a great show. shit isnt a michael bay movie its a tv show, lol
tv is also littered with examples of shows that were shot with handi-cams with little to no budget, and they became epic shows. it doesnt take millions to make a great show. shit isnt a michael bay movie its a tv show, lol
From the articles I've read, Darabont is credited, but did not write the first half of season two, that's why his epic intro to season two was scrapped. That particulare story was to follow the sergeant in the tank who eventually wound up locking himself in the tank so he wouldn't be roaming free trying to eat people.
They even went so far as to hire that one TV actor whose name escapes me. Fans of that guys work blew up the inboxes of AMC when they saw him in that episode, asking if he was going to have a more prominent role than getting shot in yhe head so early on.
They even went so far as to hire that one TV actor whose name escapes me. Fans of that guys work blew up the inboxes of AMC when they saw him in that episode, asking if he was going to have a more prominent role than getting shot in yhe head so early on.
this weeks episode was fucking stupid to me. too much pointless conversations going on and you can tell it's to try to connect the fans to other characters emotionally but they're doing it so sloppy. Rick went down a notch after bringing that dude back to the barn. thought that killing those dudes would set him free from his bullshit but i guess not. gonna keep watching but it is gradually getting worse with every episode.
i also thought the episode was bad ass, but wtf you guys really thought they should have left that guy there?
i thought it was smart to take him back. not only to feel a little humanity, something theyve been desperately been trying to obtain this whole time by playing house on the farm. but its just the right thing to do. they could extract information from him by being nice, learn about the other survivors and whats been happening in other parts of the country. or they could straight interrogate the guy then feed him to the zombies; i think its absolutely critical that they try to obtain information from the "outside world" so that they could move on from the farm.
i would have been kinda pissed if they left that guy to die; itd almost be like "ok now FOR SURE i know theyre going to be sitting on this stupid farm at least till the end of the season." at least now i have a little hope that they might learn about a new place to head out to. get a clue as to how shits going on outside of the farm
i thought it was smart to take him back. not only to feel a little humanity, something theyve been desperately been trying to obtain this whole time by playing house on the farm. but its just the right thing to do. they could extract information from him by being nice, learn about the other survivors and whats been happening in other parts of the country. or they could straight interrogate the guy then feed him to the zombies; i think its absolutely critical that they try to obtain information from the "outside world" so that they could move on from the farm.
i would have been kinda pissed if they left that guy to die; itd almost be like "ok now FOR SURE i know theyre going to be sitting on this stupid farm at least till the end of the season." at least now i have a little hope that they might learn about a new place to head out to. get a clue as to how shits going on outside of the farm
just a couple outside opinions i found that i thought were interesting