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HERESY

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well ya of course

but i'm talking about who you are able to hire as a cop
your not ever going to get the people who should be doing it
99% say fuck that job
Then if cops don't start changng their culture more of them will die. If citizens don't start changing their culture they'll continue to die.
 

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She's right. Those who took the oath aren't doing what they're supposed to do. She's an officer and she is real with it. She is calling out fellow cops. She is saying the black community is divided. She is calling for black mentors, speaking up when you know is wrong, speaking up in the community.

I have no problem with her, BUT, because she spoke out she is now in danger from fellow officers.
 
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i hear what your saying
but obviously you know there aren't enough people volunteering to be cops that meet the requirements you put out


Then that is a simple supply and demand problem solved by incentivizing (increasing pay) until the supply matches the demand and required qualifications.

If the current supply is inadequate to do their job properly, raise the salary and attract better qualified candidates.
 
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Then that is a simple supply and demand problem solved by incentivizing (increasing pay) until the supply matches the demand and required qualifications.

If the current supply is inadequate to do their job properly, raise the salary and attract better qualified candidates.
agree
but aren't they paid thru property and sales tax of the city?
 
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Don't you know? Cops are supposed to be super humans, equipped with superior intelligence, superhuman reaction times, superior judgement skills, superhuman strength to control any subject single handedly no matter their size, the knowledge of a lawyer and judge, all while accepting a 30k year pay, and they should be executed or fired if they make a single mistake

The starting salary for SPD is 70k and rises quickly (after 6 months).

That doesn't include overtime (many cops average 5-15K annually in overtime) and other benefits including 36 days paid time off annually, medical, dental, and retirement savings matching.
 
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Have you ever heard of William J. Lewinski? This is what needs to change.

Good article here:
Training Officers to Shoot First, and He Will Answer Questions Later - NYTimes.com

This is how our system works. And if people can't see this is a massive fucking problem, then I don't know what to tell people anymore.

Much like an aging, bloated, noncompetitive sports franchise; police forces need to be dismantled and rebuilt to remain effective and productive in current times.
 
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Have you ever heard of William J. Lewinski? This is what needs to change.

Good article here:
Training Officers to Shoot First, and He Will Answer Questions Later - NYTimes.com

This is how our system works. And if people can't see this is a massive fucking problem, then I don't know what to tell people anymore.
The good ole boy club helping the good ole boys? we know that bullshit will never change

since 2005, there have only been 13 officers convicted of murder or manslaughter in fatal on-duty shootings, according to data provided to The Huffington Post by Philip Stinson

Here’s How Many Cops Got Convicted Of Murder Last Year For On-Duty Shootings
 
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I already posted a PDF study that compared and contrasted police shootings of blacks to other police misconduct against blacks. I also posted a critique someone made of that PDF.

What facts and numbers of all "examples" are you speaking of?
THIS IS WHAT YOU POSTED
"Homan Square is not part of the problem, you're right. And you are right, all of this is about shootings and police aren't doing anything wrong to blacks. Certainly not pulling them over because of their nose, certainly not shooting them and planting tasers, certainly not hiring cops that were fired from previous depts for mental issues, certainly not beating them on the side of the freeways, certainly not taking their cellphones and destroying them, none of that. It's all about shootings like you're saying. "

Compare the bold to total incidents by types. versus what bias reporting gives for either side.

Same thing for cops with incidents with negative perception(doesn't matter if guilty or not) versus total pig count in the country..

I would imagine everything being talked about is minuscule compared to the overall picture.

I would imagine there will be hot spots in areas with high crime rates but the community would eat some of that blame as well.
 
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Then that is a simple supply and demand problem solved by incentivizing (increasing pay) until the supply matches the demand and required qualifications.

If the current supply is inadequate to do their job properly, raise the salary and attract better qualified candidates.

you then need to get rid of unions. there's no need for that middle man.


Stockton police losing officers at 'alarming rate'
Chief worries force is turning into 'training ground' for rookies

Stockton police losing officers at 'alarming rate' | Local News - KCRA Home
11:43 PM PST Feb 16, 2016

Police officers are leaving Stockton at what the chief calls an “alarming rate,” due to the city’s struggles to pay them at a competitive rate.

The exodus comes as the department is trying to expand from less than 320 officers during the recession to 485 by 2017.

Since 2012, 60 officers have left for jobs at other law enforcement agencies, with another 127 officers bowing out due to retirement, medical issues or other reasons.

“We’re not going to rebuild the department to where it needs to be if we continue that trend," Police Chief Eric Jones said. "If we can’t stop the bleeding, we can’t treat the wound.”

Jones worries the department is turning into a training ground, with rookie officers leaving after two years or less for greener pastures.

“The primary issue is the total compensation or pay in benefits, where we’ve fallen below market rate,” Jones said.

The numbers show how wide that gap is in Stockton.

The minimum salary for new officers in Stockton is $5,069 per month compared to $5,563 per month in Lodi and $6,196 per month in Manteca.
(Lodi is connected to Stockton on the North. Manteca connected on the South. both are a lot "safer".)

The Police Association's current contract expires in July, which is when the association's president, Kathryn Nance, plans to push for higher wages and better benefits.

“I don’t think anybody expects that we’re going to have this huge bump in pay that says you’re going to be paid the same as BART or San Francisco or anything like that, but what we have to do is continually improve,” Nance said.

In 2013, Stockton approved a .75 percent sales tax, raising the rate to 9 percent overall, which is the highest in the county. The money was supposed to pay for an additional 120 officers.

It’s unclear where the money would come from to increase the wages of officers.

Former council member Ralph White believes the city can’t afford to pay them more.

“Are we paying what other cities are paying? No,” White said. “There was a time when we paid way more than other cities, and that’s what got us bankrupt.”
 

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THIS IS WHAT YOU POSTED
"Homan Square is not part of the problem, you're right. And you are right, all of this is about shootings and police aren't doing anything wrong to blacks. Certainly not pulling them over because of their nose, certainly not shooting them and planting tasers, certainly not hiring cops that were fired from previous depts for mental issues, certainly not beating them on the side of the freeways, certainly not taking their cellphones and destroying them, none of that. It's all about shootings like you're saying. "

Compare the bold to total incidents by types. versus what bias reporting gives for either side.

Same thing for cops with incidents with negative perception(doesn't matter if guilty or not) versus total pig count in the country..

I would imagine everything being talked about is minuscule compared to the overall picture.

I would imagine there will be hot spots in areas with high crime rates but the community would eat some of that blame as well.
Please refer to the PDF posted and the critique of the PDF.

ETA: This year we have a total of 624 officer involved killings. I don't know how many of those were "justified", in the sense that the person pointed a gun at a cop., or the cop really wasn't on some typical cop killer shit. The number of cops killed in the line of duty this year? 62.

So what's the overall picture here? People want to talk about blacks killing more blacks as opposed to police but look at the ratio of officers involved in shootings. That's alarming.

BTW, if anyone wants the link to the archives of all all the officer involved shootings I'll post it. You can go through each and every one to find out what the deal was if you want.
 
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what realistically can be done tho?
Mandatory body cameras on pigs. They can't be trusted. Something needs to be done at the Federal level to stop specific departments from not using them because of 'lack of funding' et..

"all cops are pigs"
"all minorities are criminals"
"all Muslims are terrorists"

All of the above sound equally stupid.
YOU are stupid. Nobody is claiming that.

PS Fila is dead as a brand and you are a fucking cornball, please consider killing yourself.
 
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Mandatory body cameras on pigs. They can't be trusted. Something needs to be done at the Federal level to stop specific departments from not using them because of 'lack of funding' et..



YOU are stupid. Nobody is claiming that.

PS Fila is dead as a brand and you are a fucking cornball, please consider killing yourself.
Go kill some more jews you fuckface faggot