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SMH@the double standards here...and that has nothing to do with you but someone else.
ME PERSONALLY IVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL INCIDENTS WITH PD SOME THAT I PROVOKED AND OTHERS THAT I DIDNT..I CHALK THAT UP TO THE CITY IM FROM...THE STRESS LEVELS ARE PROBABLY PRETTY HIGH WITH PIGS GIVEN THE MAOUNT OF VIOLENT CRIME THERE IS HERE...NOT SAYING ITS RIGHT OR WRONG MORE SO IT IS WHAT IT IS....

I WANT TO SAY LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THE COPS GINNED DOWN 3-5 PEOPLE IN ONE YEAR SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT FOR THE CITY..

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FACTS/NUMBERS ON ALL THE EXAMPLES YOU POSTED BECAUSE IT SEEMS PRETTY BIAS TO THROW THOSE OUT THERE WITHOUT THE NUMBERS....
 

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[ame=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f96_1467906788]LiveLeak.com - Store Owner Releases Video of Baton Rouge Police Shooting[/ame]


This is what people are defending. A convicted felon with a gun, fighting arrest after being told not to numerous times, after threatening someone with that gun, all the while his right arm is constantly reaching for his waistband / pocket where the gun is located.

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ME PERSONALLY IVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL INCIDENTS WITH PD SOME THAT I PROVOKED AND OTHERS THAT I DIDNT..I CHALK THAT UP TO THE CITY IM FROM...THE STRESS LEVELS ARE PROBABLY PRETTY HIGH WITH PIGS GIVEN THE MAOUNT OF VIOLENT CRIME THERE IS HERE...NOT SAYING ITS RIGHT OR WRONG MORE SO IT IS WHAT IT IS....

I WANT TO SAY LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THE COPS GINNED DOWN 3-5 PEOPLE IN ONE YEAR SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT FOR THE CITY..

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FACTS/NUMBERS ON ALL THE EXAMPLES YOU POSTED BECAUSE IT SEEMS PRETTY BIAS TO THROW THOSE OUT THERE WITHOUT THE NUMBERS....
I already posted a PDF study that compared and contrasted police shootings of blacks to other police misconduct against blacks. I also posted a critique someone made of that PDF.

What facts and numbers of all "examples" are you speaking of?
 

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All I know is what happened when this false narrative of "didn't do anything" hit the mainstream liberal media: 5 to 1.
I never said anything about this incident, take a look at all my replies.

The store owner had his videos and other property searched and seized, without a warrant, and he was detained. He's also suing the department now and said the guy never reached for his gun.

But you and I are done here.

5 to 1.
 

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I never said anything about this incident, take a look at all my replies.

The store owner had his videos and other property searched and seized, without a warrant, and he was detained. He's also suing the department now and said the guy never reached for his gun.

But you and I are done here.

5 to 1.
If police KNOW he has evidence, then they may have acted to make sure he didn't destroy that evidence or post it somewhere, before obtaining a warrant, which he seems to have done anyway somehow. Especially when he's standing there saying "Why'd you do that for" and probably was criticizing them like he was in the video. I don't know dude, I'm not a fuckin lawyer, cops aren't lawyers, if they fucked up then let them answer for it. If they're immune to it, then maybe the laws should change

He may have even known Alton personally and was getting some kind of money for letting him perform his illegal activities (selling stolen property)
 

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that last video is disgusting
getting rid of of the racist cops is easier said then done tho
It took two recorded instances, the second being a vid where he knocked down a basketball hoop, to get him fired.

I'd say his mentality (his actual words) that blacks are a drain, don't belong in his city, etc are quite common and probably reflect the views of most non black officers.
 
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It took two recorded instances, the second being a vid where he knocked down a basketball hoop, to get him fired.

I'd say his mentality (his actual words) that blacks are a drain, don't belong in his city, etc are quite common and probably reflect the views of most non black officers.
what realistically can be done tho?
make all cops take lie detector tests about their views on race?

the quality of people that become cops is not cream of the crop
 

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what realistically can be done tho?
make all cops take lie detector tests about their views on race?

the quality of people that become cops is not cream of the crop
People tend to focus on what the people can/should be doing, especially in this thread, but when you ask those people about what the government/cops should do you hear white noise.

To answer your question, there needs to be an overhaul of every police department in the country. The FOP has to go, contracts need to be renegotiated, policing should no longer be a full life job but one that ends after a set period of time, a minimum of a college degree or four years work related experience, be able to pass mental health tests, be able to pass drug tests (specifically for PEDS and steroids), have required community relations courses, preferences in hiring given to those from that area, no history of alcoholism (the amount of cops who abuse alcohol is very high) and a return to restorative justice and cops walking the beat as opposed to the shit in the vid I posted.

Think about this, it's hard to become a fighter pilot right? You just can't start flying stealth bombers two months after joining the military. Same shit should apply to cops.

Short of that, the only way it will be "solved" is through murder and that's not going to solve it, I understand, but you watched that second vid I posted and you know that's not a way to treat someone. However, if you keep treating people like that they are going to go nuts.
 
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People tend to focus on what the people can/should be doing, especially in this thread, but when you ask those people about what the government/cops should do you hear white noise.

To answer your question, there needs to be an overhaul of every police department in the country. The FOP has to go, contracts need to be renegotiated, policing should no longer be a full life job but one that ends after a set period of time, a minimum of a college degree or four years work related experience, be able to pass mental health tests, be able to pass drug tests (specifically for PEDS and steroids), have required community relations courses, preferences in hiring given to those from that area, no history of alcoholism (the amount of cops who abuse alcohol are very high) and a return to restorative justice and cops walking the beat as opposed to the shit in the vid I posted.

Short of that, the only way it will be "solved" is through murder and that's not going to solve it, I understand, but you watched that second vid I posted and you know that's not a way to treat someone. However, if you keep treating people like that they are going to go nuts.

i hear what your saying
but obviously you know there aren't enough people volunteering to be cops that meet the requirements you put out
 

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i'm not arguing with you, just stating facts that you will never be able to get a police force that is qualified with what you want


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Don't you know? Cops are supposed to be super humans, equipped with superior intelligence, superhuman reaction times, superior judgement skills, superhuman strength to control any subject single handedly no matter their size, the knowledge of a lawyer and judge, all while accepting a 30k year pay, and they should be executed or fired if they make a single mistake
 

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i'm not arguing with you, just stating facts that you will never be able to get a police force that is qualified with what you want


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Because it doesn't suit "them" to have that. It's doable in the sense that funds are there, people have pushed for reform, etc. It's not doable in the sense that resistance will be met and change will be put on the back burner. And I'm not asking for anything that requires super human this or that.
 
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Because it doesn't suit "them" to have that. It's doable in the sense that funds are there, people have pushed for reform, etc. It's not doable in the sense that resistance will be met and change will be put on the back burner.
well ya of course

but i'm talking about who you are able to hire as a cop
your not ever going to get the people who should be doing it
99% say fuck that job