OAKLAND RAIDERS OFFSEASON THREAD
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are diapered up defense isnt getting overpaid and aint getting huge contract deals so try again dipshit. he's had knee surgeries and is getting another one, if u think he'll come back then good for u but if u ever played football and even watched players after several knee surgeries then u should know odds are against him. this isnt about how good he is cause he's a straight player and a good pick up but to pay him that much is insane cause it will amount to nothing. if ur orginaztion was smart they would use that money to get new talent and beign the rebuilding process but there not smart and al davis is gonan fuck up that team until he dies
^^^^exactly, with a 50/50 shot it's dumb to sign for that much cause theres alot at stake. look what the pats did, no1 knew if moss was washed up so they just through 3 mill at him and waited then he became the best again so we threw the money he deserved at him. it's dumb to sign that much for unsure talent
Man is this dude serious?? When u say this shit do u feel better?? Trust me u aint on my level when it comes to sports hands down!! U can talk all the shit and say Im this and Im 11 years old and blah blah blah, but it dont mean jack!! The point is your squad stinks and your opinion and knowledhge stinks and the sooner u know that the better!! Got Em!!
U are pathetic just like your squad!! Why u keep talkin for everyone? Whats that gonna do for u? Do u need other people to help u cause u are gettin your ass whooped in this debate about your wack squad? U think i give 2 cents on what others think? If u do u highly mistaken cuzzin!! But whatevr floats your boat!! No matter what though, cause at the end of the day...............your team had a shitty offseason and to follow anotha shitty season!! Now go ask long time posters about that one!! Bwhahahahahah!! Got Em!!
YOU'RE ALL ON MY SQUAD'S NUTS. WACK OR NOT. GO START A COWBOYS THREAD ASKING WHEN PEOPLE THINK YALL WILL FINALLY WIN A PLAYOFF GAME.
THIS DEBATE AINT ABOUT WHETHER MY SQUAD IS WACK OR NOT. WE'VE BEEN IN A SLUMP FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE MOVES WE BEEN MAKIN' THIS OFFSEASON ARE GOOD OR BAD. YOU PROVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE RAIDERS OR OUR PLAYERS.
GIBRIL WILSON: SOLID ASS SIGNING. DON'T EVEN TRY TO DENY THAT.
TOMMY KELLY: EXPENSIVE SIGNING BUT LOCKED UP A GOOD PLAYER WHO IS ONLY GETTING BETTER AT A HUGE POSITION OF NEED.
JAVON WALKER: OVERPAID A RECEIVER WHO HAS PROVEN HE CAN PUT UP MONSTER NUMBERS WHEN HEALTHY AT A POSITION WE'RE EXTRA THIN AT. I'D ROLL THE DICE ON THIS ONE TOO. SOLID SIGNING.
KWAME HARRIS: SHITTY O LINEMAN BUT CHEAP CONTRACT. AGAIN WE NEEDED HELP AT THIS POSITION. NOT BAD.
YOU'RE OVER THERE SAYING WE HAD SOME KIND OF TERRIBLE OFFSEASON, BUT FROM WHERE I STAND, ALL I SEE IS A BUNCH OF HATRED.
WE'VE IMPROVED OUR TEAM.
THIS DEBATE AINT ABOUT WHETHER MY SQUAD IS WACK OR NOT. WE'VE BEEN IN A SLUMP FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE MOVES WE BEEN MAKIN' THIS OFFSEASON ARE GOOD OR BAD. YOU PROVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE RAIDERS OR OUR PLAYERS.
GIBRIL WILSON: SOLID ASS SIGNING. DON'T EVEN TRY TO DENY THAT.
TOMMY KELLY: EXPENSIVE SIGNING BUT LOCKED UP A GOOD PLAYER WHO IS ONLY GETTING BETTER AT A HUGE POSITION OF NEED.
JAVON WALKER: OVERPAID A RECEIVER WHO HAS PROVEN HE CAN PUT UP MONSTER NUMBERS WHEN HEALTHY AT A POSITION WE'RE EXTRA THIN AT. I'D ROLL THE DICE ON THIS ONE TOO. SOLID SIGNING.
KWAME HARRIS: SHITTY O LINEMAN BUT CHEAP CONTRACT. AGAIN WE NEEDED HELP AT THIS POSITION. NOT BAD.
YOU'RE OVER THERE SAYING WE HAD SOME KIND OF TERRIBLE OFFSEASON, BUT FROM WHERE I STAND, ALL I SEE IS A BUNCH OF HATRED.
WE'VE IMPROVED OUR TEAM.
I think it (Walker) was a good signing. I mean what team doesn't over pay for players?
The Cowboys overpaid Tony Romo and then signed washed up concussion prone Zach Thomas who is one concussion away from calling it quits. So go ahead and keep talking about our squad... we ain't trippin.
I kind of question that Harris signing though.... but we'll see what happens. Maybe Tom Cable can get the best out of him....
But we needed a number one receiver and Walker may be out to prove himself.
The Cowboys overpaid Tony Romo and then signed washed up concussion prone Zach Thomas who is one concussion away from calling it quits. So go ahead and keep talking about our squad... we ain't trippin.
I kind of question that Harris signing though.... but we'll see what happens. Maybe Tom Cable can get the best out of him....
But we needed a number one receiver and Walker may be out to prove himself.
walker has no mobilty to cut, no push to get off the line fast and no umph to fight off a defender!
ALL BECAUSE HIS KNEES ARE FUCKED!
Go ahead and think they are fine....THEN...go watch last 4 broncos games and tell me differently. He had no speed couldn't get open...this was against other teams #2 and #3 defenders as well.......he is no longer a #1 wr
ALL BECAUSE HIS KNEES ARE FUCKED!
Go ahead and think they are fine....THEN...go watch last 4 broncos games and tell me differently. He had no speed couldn't get open...this was against other teams #2 and #3 defenders as well.......he is no longer a #1 wr
sort of!
It's alot to do with him getting hurt and Marshall coming on better than he was....and when he came back marshall was still getting all the balls because Javon couldn't get open. But in his little world it's because noone wanted to throw to him.....also..Cutler Marshall and scheffler workout together year round and Javon NEVER did that....saying he doesn't workout with teammates out side of the team field......he is just a bad apple.....thats why favre and g.b. didn't want him and thats what led to his downfall here as well.
so you have an injury plagued wr with a big mouth who doesn't want to work with others to get better as a team outside of the practice field
It's alot to do with him getting hurt and Marshall coming on better than he was....and when he came back marshall was still getting all the balls because Javon couldn't get open. But in his little world it's because noone wanted to throw to him.....also..Cutler Marshall and scheffler workout together year round and Javon NEVER did that....saying he doesn't workout with teammates out side of the team field......he is just a bad apple.....thats why favre and g.b. didn't want him and thats what led to his downfall here as well.
so you have an injury plagued wr with a big mouth who doesn't want to work with others to get better as a team outside of the practice field
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders
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Apparently sensitive to the perception that they are recklessly throwing millions of dollars at free agents who ordinarily wouldn’t give the Raiders a second look, the club took the unusual step Wednesday of confirming (or in their mind, correcting) some salary figures.
If this has ever happened before, I can’t remember when. Frankly, the idea of being free spenders is good publicity, because it brings interest and a sense of confidence not only for the fan base, but draws in more potential free agents.
The particulars as relayed by a team executive in a phone call:
– The Javon Walker deal will pay the wide receiver $16 million over two seasons. Walker got $6 million to sign and salaries of $5 million each of the next two seasons.
The rest of the deal is heavily backloaded with money Walker won’t see unless he approaches the 89 receptions, 1,392 yards and 12 touchdowns compiled in Green Bay in 2004.
Given that players are seldom if ever cut after one year after receiving a sizable signing bonus, Walker has essentially been guaranteed $16 million.
– The Kwame Harris deal is essentially one year for $3 million, giving both the club and Harris the chance to revisit the situation after one season. There was never any guaranteed money reported regarding Harris’ signing.
Most fans understand the figures associated with the entire deal are blown out of proportion by inflated salaries on the back end. The club seldom intends to pay them, and the extra years are added to spread out the salary cap hit on the bonus.
Kelly’s deal includes $29.5 million in salary over the last five years, $19.5 million over the last three years. If Kelly isn’t as good as the Raiders expect, he’ll never see that money.
Walker’s contract has salaries of $10 million on the back end. Those checks will probably never be written.
Still, the up front money has been considerable, and Al Davis had put everyone on notice that he isn’t afraid to take a chance and write huge checks to get his team turned around.
As for Lane Kiffin, he hasn’t been quoted in a single press release regarding any of the signings. Nor are the Raiders taking advantage of the signings with regard to the news cycle by trotting thei new players out for a press conference or conference call, as the 49ers did with Justin Smith and Isaac Bruce.
It was standard procedure when the Raiders were winning division titles, but something they got away from once the losses began to pile up. Still, there were usually quotes attributed to the head coach, filtered through the team, about how happy he was to have so-and-so aboard.
In the photo of Walker signing his deal on Raiders.com, the receiver is flanked not by Kiffin, but by defensive backs coach Willie Brown.
Since the Raiders left the Senior Bowl, Kiffin has declined to speak on the record regarding his status with the club. While that might not be unusual, it is at least a little strange that Kiffin has had nothing to say via club press release about the deals worked out with Justin Fargas, Kelly, Gibril Wilson, Walker and Harris.
Nor did he give a public thanks through the team to Barry Sims for nine years of service.
But at least he got that dancing issue cleared up.
Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders
2 Comments »
Apparently sensitive to the perception that they are recklessly throwing millions of dollars at free agents who ordinarily wouldn’t give the Raiders a second look, the club took the unusual step Wednesday of confirming (or in their mind, correcting) some salary figures.
If this has ever happened before, I can’t remember when. Frankly, the idea of being free spenders is good publicity, because it brings interest and a sense of confidence not only for the fan base, but draws in more potential free agents.
The particulars as relayed by a team executive in a phone call:
– The Javon Walker deal will pay the wide receiver $16 million over two seasons. Walker got $6 million to sign and salaries of $5 million each of the next two seasons.
The rest of the deal is heavily backloaded with money Walker won’t see unless he approaches the 89 receptions, 1,392 yards and 12 touchdowns compiled in Green Bay in 2004.
Given that players are seldom if ever cut after one year after receiving a sizable signing bonus, Walker has essentially been guaranteed $16 million.
– The Kwame Harris deal is essentially one year for $3 million, giving both the club and Harris the chance to revisit the situation after one season. There was never any guaranteed money reported regarding Harris’ signing.
Most fans understand the figures associated with the entire deal are blown out of proportion by inflated salaries on the back end. The club seldom intends to pay them, and the extra years are added to spread out the salary cap hit on the bonus.
Kelly’s deal includes $29.5 million in salary over the last five years, $19.5 million over the last three years. If Kelly isn’t as good as the Raiders expect, he’ll never see that money.
Walker’s contract has salaries of $10 million on the back end. Those checks will probably never be written.
Still, the up front money has been considerable, and Al Davis had put everyone on notice that he isn’t afraid to take a chance and write huge checks to get his team turned around.
As for Lane Kiffin, he hasn’t been quoted in a single press release regarding any of the signings. Nor are the Raiders taking advantage of the signings with regard to the news cycle by trotting thei new players out for a press conference or conference call, as the 49ers did with Justin Smith and Isaac Bruce.
It was standard procedure when the Raiders were winning division titles, but something they got away from once the losses began to pile up. Still, there were usually quotes attributed to the head coach, filtered through the team, about how happy he was to have so-and-so aboard.
In the photo of Walker signing his deal on Raiders.com, the receiver is flanked not by Kiffin, but by defensive backs coach Willie Brown.
Since the Raiders left the Senior Bowl, Kiffin has declined to speak on the record regarding his status with the club. While that might not be unusual, it is at least a little strange that Kiffin has had nothing to say via club press release about the deals worked out with Justin Fargas, Kelly, Gibril Wilson, Walker and Harris.
Nor did he give a public thanks through the team to Barry Sims for nine years of service.
But at least he got that dancing issue cleared up.