2 DIFFERENT STYLES...ONE MORE IN TOUCH WITH BROWN PRIDE ENES, THE OTHER IN TOUCH WITH BLACK AND BROWN ENES...ONE HAS MEXICAN RAPPERS, THE OTHER HAS BLACK SOUNDING MEXICAN RAPPERS...SOMETIMES THE BLACK SOUNDIN ONES COME TIGHT (LIKE ON NORTHERN GHETTO BOYZ) AND SOMETIMES THEY SOUND WEAK (CALI ENTERTAINMENT, CAPITOL CITY COMPILATION)...AND WHEN THEY COLLAB, SOMETIMES THE CONFLICTING STYLES RUIN SONGS SUCH AS THE TRACK "EVERYWHERE I GO, I SEE BROS"....THA HOOK WAS TIGHT, BUT WHEN THAT FIRST DUDE RAPPIN STARTED TO FLOW WITH THAT LIL JON/DOWN SOUTH YELL STYLE RAP, I TURNED IT OFF...IF I WANTED TO HEAR THAT CRAP ID TURN MY RADIO DIAL TO KSFM OR WILD 94.9... SINCE G.U.N. IVE HEARD VERY FEW SOLID NORTENO ALBUMS...SPEEDY LOC, WOODIE, DYNO ALL PUT OUT SOLID ALBUMS...SPEEDY LOC AND WOODIE DONT EVEN HAVE A BAY OR VALLEY SOUND....ITS SOMETHIN FOR EVERYONE BASICALLY...THEY MIXED IT UP AND KEPT IT REAL AT THE SAME TIME....SO HERES A QUESTION..WHICH STYLE IN YOUR OPINION IS MORE IN TOUCH WITH TRUE NORTENO LIFESTYLE..IS IT THE OLD WAY ?(VALLEY STYLE) OR THE NEW SHIT ?(BLACK AND BROWN)
NORTENO RAP IN THE BAY/SAC v.s. NORTENO RAP IN THE VALLEY
- Thread starter MRxBULLETx831
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I THINK THA ONLY OLDSCHOOL STYLE NORTENO GANGSTER RAPPER THATS ABLE TO PULL THAT SHIT OFF IS TOKZTERO.... BUT THAT FOO HAS MANY STYLES, AS SOME CAN TELL 4RM HIS SOLO CD....
ABOUT THAT SONG "I SEE BRO'S" KONVICT IS THE FIRST ONE WHO COMES ON THAT TRACK.... THATS ONE OF THA TIGHTEST VERSES KONVICT HAS LAYED DOWN.... HIS VERSE GETS ME PUMPED UP N READY TO SMASH.... SO DOES DOSIA'S VERSE.... BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT SONG ARE 4RM THA BAY.... THEY DONT HAVE AN OLDSCHOOL STYLE EITHER....
LOWDOWN IS 4RM THA VALLEY N THEY DONT GOTTA OLDSCHOOL STYLE.... WELL IN MY OPINION THEY DONT....
I STILL LIKE BAY RAP....
ABOUT THAT SONG "I SEE BRO'S" KONVICT IS THE FIRST ONE WHO COMES ON THAT TRACK.... THATS ONE OF THA TIGHTEST VERSES KONVICT HAS LAYED DOWN.... HIS VERSE GETS ME PUMPED UP N READY TO SMASH.... SO DOES DOSIA'S VERSE.... BUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT SONG ARE 4RM THA BAY.... THEY DONT HAVE AN OLDSCHOOL STYLE EITHER....
LOWDOWN IS 4RM THA VALLEY N THEY DONT GOTTA OLDSCHOOL STYLE.... WELL IN MY OPINION THEY DONT....
I STILL LIKE BAY RAP....
I'M IN THE MIDDLE,I JUST LIKE GOOD MUSIC.I CAN LISTEN TO 14 CALIBER CAUSE I KNOW THEM VATOS AND KNOW THEY REAL YA' DIG.I DON'T REALLY DIG THAT YELLING SHIT ETHIER PERO AS AN ARTIST KONVICTS TIGHT.WHEN DYNO AND GUN AND ALL THAT CAME OUT I WAS'NT INTO RAP.I REMEMBER LISTENING TO IT ON THE PHONE WHEN I WAS LOCKED LIKE IT AIGHT.FUCK NOW LOOK I GOT MY OWN SHIT OUT.SHIT CHECK OUT MY ALBUM,GO FROM MI VIDA LOCA TO YAY RELATED TO DESPERADOS AND YOU SEE THREE DIFFERNT STYLES.THE VALLE FOLKS(DEPENDING ON THEIR INFLUCENCES)TEND TO SOUND OR I SHOULD SAY RAP SLOWER.AS FOR DYNO LOOKING AND RAPPING LIKE A SCRAP,FUCK I CAN'T EVEN RESPOUND TO THAT.THAT BE THIS YOUNGER GENERATION WHO THINK LIKE THAT.SHIT AS A KID ALL I GAVE A FUCK ABOUT WAS MY VARRIO AND ENOUGH POCKET CHANGE TO GET A $1.49 40 OZ.NOW ALL THIS KIDS WANNA BE BALLERS SO TO SAY.NOT PUTTING DOWN THE HUSTLE PERO IT SEEMS TO BE WASHING AWAY THE ROOTS.NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY PERO WE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS "IS" A RAZA BASED THING WE INVOLVED WITH.OTHERS WERE BROUGHT IN BY INVATATION.WHEN I MAKE A SONG,AN ALBUM I KNOW MY LISTENERS ARE PRIMARALY MEXICANOS AND I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.PERO AT THE SAME TIME I'M FROM THE BAY 41510 AND YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR ESE THAT I'M GONE' REFLECT ON MY SURROUNDINGS.
Im with coner on this one. I like muzik that i can relate to and depends on how they flow and style. I wasnt really feeling that 14 caliber cd either due to the yelling and everything but if you listen to the lyrics its pretty tight cd and cant wait to here what they got next it was their first cd. I am feeling rappers from all over cali like Lowdown those right there had to be some of the best released beats to the lyrics...on the other hand i never really felt any other dyno's releases only songs he featured on. Other tgith rappers were PBC, Sunny Boy Lokzter, Big Oso Loc, Tokztero, Speedy Loc, Mousie, so its not really were you from its the style that the artists comes with cause each comes with their own style for example woodie who's on a whole differnt level
IMO
IMO
-->thats real....things has changed....when i was a youngsta all we had was changos and a t-shirt....
@jos- "I CAN'T STAND THE CHICANO'S WHO TRY TO RAP BLACK IT'S LIKE IF THIER ASHAME OF THIER CULTURE U AINT GOT ACT A CERTAIN WAY 2 KICK IT, ILL HAVE TO SAY THE VALLEY RAP IS BETTER"
<< you cant knock that shit tho cuz homeboys here in frisco are different....i dont think they are ashamed of there culture but just are not in touch with it....in the valley mexicans run the streets....in frisco we got salvatruchas, gatemantecos, mexicans, columbianos, cubanos, boriquas, blacks, and everything else all in one place....you have influences from all these other cultures-->
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as for me i love that old skool gangstero shit-->talking about the varrio life, not the ghetto.
-i can listen to both and understand the cultural infuences affecting the latinos in frisco, but i purfer the old skool style
@jos- "I CAN'T STAND THE CHICANO'S WHO TRY TO RAP BLACK IT'S LIKE IF THIER ASHAME OF THIER CULTURE U AINT GOT ACT A CERTAIN WAY 2 KICK IT, ILL HAVE TO SAY THE VALLEY RAP IS BETTER"
<< you cant knock that shit tho cuz homeboys here in frisco are different....i dont think they are ashamed of there culture but just are not in touch with it....in the valley mexicans run the streets....in frisco we got salvatruchas, gatemantecos, mexicans, columbianos, cubanos, boriquas, blacks, and everything else all in one place....you have influences from all these other cultures-->
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as for me i love that old skool gangstero shit-->talking about the varrio life, not the ghetto.
-i can listen to both and understand the cultural infuences affecting the latinos in frisco, but i purfer the old skool style
I THINK VALLEY RAP IS BETTER.I THINK KRIMINAL,P.B.C.,SONNY BOY LOKSTER,BABY BOY ENE, AND ALL DARKROOM AND LOWDOWN.I THINK WE OWE SIR DYNO AND G.U.N. SOME RESPECT AND NOT BE ALWAYS BE ASSUMING HES A SCRAP. IM SICK OF HOMEBOYS ALWYAS SAYING THIS.JUST BECAUSE HE HAS ALOT OF CD'S WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT UNITY AND BROWN PRIDE.HE AINT A SCRAP AND IF HE WAS ONE. HE WOULDVE GOT SMASHED ON.I STICK TO MY WORK DYNO IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE MONEY FOR HIS FAMILY. HES TOO OLD TO BE MAKING GANG RELATED SONGS.SO STOP HATING ON HOMEBOY DYNO.
its not an area type thing....its all based on influences.....my boys Mental Illness from Stoccton.....they Valley rappers & they Nortenos but they dont sound like typical Chicanos......and if you were ta tell them they aint keepin it real theyd show you real, real quicc like......culture is not based on race its based on your surroundings......if you grew up around nuttin but mexicans than yeah your culture is different than poeple who grew up around mixed races.....only reason some valley rappers have that ol school cholo style is cuz they usualy form a small town where they were influenced by nuttin but cholos.....you cant say some mexicans sound blacc....wtf does a blacc rapper sound like???? Jay Z and Lynch dont sound the same so which one is being blacc and which one isnt????
and as far as the rap game goes that cholo style aint gonna cut it......yeah if you only wanna sell records to mexicans an not go any further than that you ok.....but if you really thinkin about tryin ta make a name in this shit and some money on a national level you need ta come wit somethin more than one syllable rhyming and stretchin out words so that it fits the beat.....
and as far as the rap game goes that cholo style aint gonna cut it......yeah if you only wanna sell records to mexicans an not go any further than that you ok.....but if you really thinkin about tryin ta make a name in this shit and some money on a national level you need ta come wit somethin more than one syllable rhyming and stretchin out words so that it fits the beat.....
@MRxBULLETx831
I just want to make this clear and I'm not trying to start off any problems or nothing like that, just makin a point thats all and this point is that Konvict has had his style way before this lil jon thang popped off along with the track too cause it was done way before they even had the deal with Starz The Limit, trust me cause he came with the same vibe when I was in the studio putting down my track.
I just want to make this clear and I'm not trying to start off any problems or nothing like that, just makin a point thats all and this point is that Konvict has had his style way before this lil jon thang popped off along with the track too cause it was done way before they even had the deal with Starz The Limit, trust me cause he came with the same vibe when I was in the studio putting down my track.
Re: THE VALLEY
I was born in the Sco...raised there for a while then to Vallejo....im Chicano.......my spanish is terrible.......my grandmother had 16 kids so some got sent off to boarding schools wher the nuns would not allow any spanish so my father grew up having english as his first language..sux I know........so spanish was never the first language in my house.....so i know only what i been taught by my older cousins in Frisco.....I remember my cousins rappin in like 83 in spanish at partys....tight shit.....Midnite Cru was poppin then.....anyway.........the mexicans in the Sco is way different then the ones in modesto and other spots....I dont think that us city Chicanos are trying to act black.......i think its just life in the city..styles are popular fads happen everyone joins in......I know Im not ashamed of my culture.......I just dont make it apart of my music.....Ilike to keep race and my music seperate.....thats just how I do...but thats a decision made for marketing purposes....
I was born in the Sco...raised there for a while then to Vallejo....im Chicano.......my spanish is terrible.......my grandmother had 16 kids so some got sent off to boarding schools wher the nuns would not allow any spanish so my father grew up having english as his first language..sux I know........so spanish was never the first language in my house.....so i know only what i been taught by my older cousins in Frisco.....I remember my cousins rappin in like 83 in spanish at partys....tight shit.....Midnite Cru was poppin then.....anyway.........the mexicans in the Sco is way different then the ones in modesto and other spots....I dont think that us city Chicanos are trying to act black.......i think its just life in the city..styles are popular fads happen everyone joins in......I know Im not ashamed of my culture.......I just dont make it apart of my music.....Ilike to keep race and my music seperate.....thats just how I do...but thats a decision made for marketing purposes....
fa reals though cuz if mexicans gotta "keep it real" then they wouldnt be rappin at all they would be singin rancheras n shit.....but this is america.....we are free to learn from other races and share a culture.....jus cuz you mexican does that mean you can only cook & eat beans rice & tacos???? you cant have no spaghetti or a hamburger or youll be ashamed of your race????
think about it....stop being closed minded and recognise reality.......
think about it....stop being closed minded and recognise reality.......
where im from is kinda in between the Valley and the Bay.... we're considered south BAY but it aint nothing like the bay.
the shit that's hitting the streets in Gilas & Hollis.... that's the shit that has it's own style. it has a hardcore gangster sound but it also sounds more like actual rap rather than a vato getting on the mic just to promote gangster shit. sorta like a cross between the Valley and the Bay, but the beats are nothing like either area.
here is a song from sum homeboys outta Hollister.... you need RealPlayer to listen....
Click Here and let me know wut you think.
the shit that's hitting the streets in Gilas & Hollis.... that's the shit that has it's own style. it has a hardcore gangster sound but it also sounds more like actual rap rather than a vato getting on the mic just to promote gangster shit. sorta like a cross between the Valley and the Bay, but the beats are nothing like either area.
here is a song from sum homeboys outta Hollister.... you need RealPlayer to listen....
Click Here and let me know wut you think.
FIRST OFF LET ME SAY DIZ AINT NOBODY HERE A SHAMED OFF THEY CULTURE IM LATIN N IM PROUD OFF IT N IM FROM FRISCO JUST CUZ A PERSON RAPZ LIKE THEY BLACK DONT MEAN THEY TRYIN 2 BE MAY BE THATZ JUST DA WAY THEY R EVER THINK ABOUT THAT SHIT I SAY NIGGA ALOT IN MY RAPZ SO THAT MAKEZ ME WANNA BE BLACK DONT THINK SO BE SIDEZ I CAN GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT DA NEXT NIGGA THINK EITHER U GOING 2 LIKE IT OR U AINT I CAN CARE LESS I AINT GOING 2 LET DA NEXT MAN TELL ME HOW TO TALK N WHO 2 BE SHIT NIGGA IM A BE ME DONT LIKE IT THATZ YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINEZ