Nick Diaz vs Jeff Lacy (official)

[2-0-Sixx]

are boxing undercard fighters paid really well? 2-0-6 or anyone else how much does your average undercard fighter make?

obviously big main eventers make more than main event mma guys but i doubt there is such a big difference in the lower fighters.

totally depends on the card. I mean there are tiny little shit cards in little towns almost daily across the globe, who I'm sure fight for very small potatoes.

but you're average HBO card (not PPV), it can range from a million dollars (like andre berto has been paid on undercards) to 50,000 etc.

The big PPV cards are more (pac made at least $20 million, Mosley maid at least $5 million, Kelly Pavlik made $270K, Vazquez jr. $165K, Arce $125K)

Here are numbers of one of more average HBO card not long ago:

Marquez $1.4 mill, Katsidis $530K, Berto $910K, Hernandez $75K, Caballero $200K, Litzau $50K


So yeah, I think on average, when you compare standard HBO/Showtime cards or PPV's to UFC, boxers get paid a lot more.

Part of that is all the revenue created goes directly to the fighters, the promoters and the rest is paid for television fees, etc. and that's it.

With UFC, I'm sure a lot of that money generated goes right back into the UFC for whatever purposes like advertising, and whatever else funds for maintaining the UFC, etc.

A lot of the big money fights comes from being on HBO, or even Showtime. The problem with Diaz fight Jeff Lacy is I would seriously doubt either network would pick it up, which means it's going to have to be done on a smaller, independent PPV, which means it's probably only going to sell about 50,000 PPV's at best (my guess), which course means a lot less money.

 

[drunkaholic707]

I thought I read Lesnar made more than Manny last year somewhere

luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulz

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I thought I read Lesnar made more than Manny last year somewhere

I know this a troll post but:

Pacquiao, Rodriguez highest-paid athletes
By NICK GIONGCO
April 23, 2011, 4:15pm

MANILA, Philippines — Boxing icon Manny Pacquiao and Major League Baseball star Alex Rodriguez of the New York Yankees have been named as the highest-paid athletes in the world.

In the latest issue of ESPN magazine, said Pacquiao and Rodriguez each earned $32 million in 2010 and the amount doesn’t include “endorsements, appearance fees, sponsorship money and other sources of income.”

Trailing behind Pacquiao and Rodriguez are race driver Kimi Raikkonen ($26,333,333), NBA player Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers ($24,800,000) and soccer idol Cristiano Ronaldo ($19,500,000).

The $32 million came from Pacquiao’s fights with Ghanaian Joshua Clottey in March and Mexican Antonio Margarito in November. Both fights were held before huge crowds at the Cowboys Stadium in Dallas, Texas.

Pacquiao is expected to cash in once again as he has a much-publicized fight on schedule on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Promoter Bob Arum said Pacquiao should earn big once again owing to his drawing power.

The purse Pacquiao has earned the past few years have been incredibly awesome considering that when he made his US debut in June 2001, he was only paid a paltry $40,000 as a last-minute substitute against Lehlo Ledwaba.

Pacquiao only barged into the millionaire’s circle in 2005 when he was pitted against Erik Morales of Mexico.

Arum has said that Pacquiao is going to have a few more fights before calling it quits and tops on the list of priorities is a showdown with the elusive Floyd Mayweather.

A fight with Mayweather should shatter all box-office and revenue records in the sport.

 

[B-Buzz]

lol I was serious, I thought Manny got like 4-6 mill a fight

edit- I'm pretty sure I saw this with different numbers pasted somewhere. Guess I got trolled


ESPN: Lesnar highest paid MMA star
April 21, 2011
ESPN reports that Brock Lesnar tops the salary list of mixed martial artists with a reported $5.3 million. The story appearing in May 2nd edition of ESPN The Magazine features the highest paid athletes in 30 sports.
The highest paid athletes were Alex Rodriguez and Manny Pacquiao with both making $32 million each. Rodriguez’s dollar amount was based on his 2011 salary and Pacquiao’s salary was based on an estimated purse for two fights.
The dollar amounts do not include endorsement deals or appearance fees. Thus, Rodriguez and Pacquiao could make well more than the $32 million.
Excluding sponsorships and any other revenue streams, Lesnar makes $5,300,000 based on his estimated prize money and percentage of UFC PPV share.
Payout Perspective:
Lesnar’s status as the highest paid MMA star is in line with the fact that he is the top PPV draw in MMA. The numbers do not lie as Lesnar fights averaged over 1 million PPV buys last year. With Lesnar appearing in only one fight in 2009, the UFC buy rate diminished. Regardless of what people think of his skills, he is someone people want to see and he is being compensated for this. Is it the spillover from his WWE days? Is it his persona? Or, is it his athleticism for such a big man? What is the allure of Lesnar that attracts so many to his fights? We should see similar results for his fight at UFC 131.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

you can see why diaz wants to make some boxing money.

problem is though I just don't think jeff lacy is the person to get him the money he's looking for. Just a guess, but if a lacy-diaz PPV did 50,000 buys (imo that's being generous), I recken he could take home around $300k-$500k, maybe a lil more at best.

I may be underestimating how many fans he has that would be willing to pay for a lacy boxing PPV, though. I just don't know. Maybe he's also looking long term, meaning he knows if he beats lacy that could set up a bigger boxing payday (but I believe his contract wouldn't allow for that??).

 

[dookie1]

Boxing $ > MMA $




DANA PIMPIN THEM HOES!!

 

[MRTHECOSE]

I'm confused as hell, Nick Diaz wants a big payday, I don't see a big pay day coming for him by fighting a way past his prime shot Jeff Lacy. In his last fight Nick was payed $175,000 before all the sponsor money and bonuses, he probably at least pulled $300,000 if not more. Right now UFC is highly considered a PPV main event for Nick against GSP which with base pay, PPV bonuses, sponsor money on a UFC show, etc would probably pull Nick at least a million dollars. I doubt Nick is gonna even make what he made fighting Paul Daley if he takes this Jeff Lacy fight.


Has Nick smoked himself retarded?

$300,000 -40%=180,000

180,000 to pay your trainers and shit then live off that till next pay day nick probably takes home 40 grand from a fight so in reality makes 60-70 a year not much for risking your health

 

[B-Buzz]

clay guida made over a mill last year, FYI guys. I think after the top 20 or so boxers MMA catches up with all of the endorsement money and fight bonuses in the ufc.

Anyways, I think UFC will swoop in and convince Showtime to let them get the fight with GSP first, which makes sense for both sides. UFC will promote him more and get Showtime more buys, and he won't get KO'd before a fight they need pretty bad

 

[BROWN GUERRERO]

Boxing $ > MMA $




DANA PIMPIN THEM HOES!!

Who gives shit what the fighters make? They ain't broke and not giving them 20 mil a fight keeps them motivated. We see all the big fights we want in MMA and all the best mma fighters fight 3 to 4 times a year.


Im more worried about the money that I am giving out of my own pocket. That boxing fight last week was NOT worth the 54.99 to anyone other than a die hard boxing fan.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Who gives shit what the fighters make? They ain't broke and not giving them 20 mil a fight keeps them motivated. We see all the big fights we want in MMA and all the best mma fighters fight 3 to 4 times a year.


Im more worried about the money that I am giving out of my own pocket. That boxing fight last week was NOT worth the 54.99 to anyone other than a die hard boxing fan.

probably not, plenty of UFC cards suck too. It happens.

but yeah, this thread was going pretty civil for being about boxing-mma so lets hope it stays that way. boxing guys get more money, ufc has overall better cards. As a boxing fan I'd trade those two any day.

 

[theYOCarea]

probably not, plenty of UFC cards suck too. It happens.

but yeah, this thread was going pretty civil for being about boxing-mma so lets hope it stays that way. boxing guys get more money, ufc has overall better cards. As a boxing fan I'd trade those two any day.

Good point and I agree let's keep it sane in here LOL. I like to appreciate both sports for what they offer, I have a preference, but can enjoy both.

 

[UCDgreek]

where the damn props button go?

 

[B-Buzz]

Mayweather said he wouldn't fight Manny unless they deleted it off here.

 

[dookie1]

Who gives shit what the fighters make? They ain't broke and not giving them 20 mil a fight keeps them motivated. We see all the big fights we want in MMA and all the best mma fighters fight 3 to 4 times a year.


Im more worried about the money that I am giving out of my own pocket. That boxing fight last week was NOT worth the 54.99 to anyone other than a die hard boxing fan.

STFU!! For one I like watching MMA, Altough i never buy the product. All i was saying, Which u also solidified, was that dana Pimps the UFC fighters!!!


Fighting 3 to 4 times a year for the $ they are getting is not worth it!!!


If manny fought 4 times a year he would make 100 mill !!!

Makes the 6, or 7 mill, a BIG mma kat would get look like sofa pennies!!!

just sayin....

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

clay guida made over a mill last year, FYI guys. I think after the top 20 or so boxers MMA catches up with all of the endorsement money and fight bonuses in the ufc.

Anyways, I think UFC will swoop in and convince Showtime to let them get the fight with GSP first, which makes sense for both sides. UFC will promote him more and get Showtime more buys, and he won't get KO'd before a fight they need pretty bad

The sad thing is, UFC shows probably pull in a great deal of money but the fighters don't get paid the same and it's really not close. How many times did Clay Guida fight last year? And I don't think MMA catches up, regardless of endorsements. I don't know but that doesn't seem logical. Look at the difference in the companies that endorse the two.

Companies like Tecate and most recently, O'reilly's, have offered big incentives to consumers just to be part of the promotion. The Floyd/Shane fight offered like a $25 rebate if you bought a case of tecate with a proof of purchase from the PPV. They wouldn't be offering that kinda money if it wasn't paying huge dividends to be associated with boxing cards.

You also have to consider the money that guys like the Klitchko's are making in Germany or basically any european fighter with even half a name. Also have to consider Canada now too. Bute can make damn good money for fighting a bum in Canada. Their live gate in Europe and Canada is killin it righ tnow.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I think fighters in UFC are kinda getting shafted a bit, but like naner said in a different thread UFC sells the UFC brand. I mean any decent UFC card will sell well.

Also it's one organization. Boxing doesn't have a central organization. If it did, I wouldn't mind fighters getting paid a bit less if a lot of the profits went into building a boxing brand, advertising & development, health benefits, etc. etc. etc. I would definitely love something like that for boxing.

 

[B-Buzz]

The sad thing is, UFC shows probably pull in a great deal of money but the fighters don't get paid the same and it's really not close. How many times did Clay Guida fight last year? And I don't think MMA catches up, regardless of endorsements. I don't know but that doesn't seem logical. Look at the difference in the companies that endorse the two.

Companies like Tecate and most recently, O'reilly's, have offered big incentives to consumers just to be part of the promotion. The Floyd/Shane fight offered like a $25 rebate if you bought a case of tecate with a proof of purchase from the PPV. They wouldn't be offering that kinda money if it wasn't paying huge dividends to be associated with boxing cards.

You also have to consider the money that guys like the Klitchko's are making in Germany or basically any european fighter with even half a name. Also have to consider Canada now too. Bute can make damn good money for fighting a bum in Canada. Their live gate in Europe and Canada is killin it righ tnow.

ya you're exactly right, I think I'd guess UFC pulls about 80-90% profit from shows.

not sure if it was hypothetical or not but Clay's fought 3 times in the past year, and I know from his brother that he made $280K for the Gugerty fight and $350K for the Gomi and Dos Anjos fights with sub of the night bonuses and endorsements. Plus he trains for free at Jackson Camp and Midwest Training Center, lives in an RV and just opened his own gym in northern Illinois lol. People in Chicago go apeshit for Guida.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

ya you're exactly right, I think I'd guess UFC pulls about 80-90% profit from shows.

not sure if it was hypothetical or not but Clay's fought 3 times in the past year, and I know from his brother that he made $280K for the Gugerty fight and $350K for the Gomi and Dos Anjos fights with sub of the night bonuses and endorsements. Plus he trains for free at Jackson Camp and Midwest Training Center, lives in an RV and just opened his own gym in northern Illinois lol. People in Chicago go apeshit for Guida.

I was actually asking. Most championship fighters in boxing fight like twice to MAYBE 3 times a year. Seems like Guida is fighting all the time. I figured he got a lot of bonuses because he figures to be in the fight of the night most times because he puts on a good show.

Honestly though, the top 2-3 boxers probably makes as much as the rest of the top 20 MMA fighters combined. I wish I was joking. They're being pimped by the monopoly of Zuffa. I love martial arts but I'm not a "MMA" fan really but I think it's a huge injustice with what's happening in the sport. Theses guys likely don't have long term health or retirement options. The only thing I've noticed, they seem to revere the names of the biggest stars of their sport so maybe they help them some but it doesn't seem like they do.

 

[BROWN GUERRERO]

Being pimped? No, they're being put to work. Cause you know what MMA is? THEIR JOB!! Getting 20mil to fight is a joke. No wonder pussy Mayweather is dodging Pac man. There's no NEED when he already made millions off his last fights. UFC fighters stay hungry, motivated AND get bonuses for putting on a great fight. These all favor who? US! THE FANS!! These fools aint broke.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

a lot of them dont make shit though not as much as they should. wait some years down the road when alot of these guys have serious medical problems with no money to pay the bills. defininately goes both wsys, good and bsd ob both sides