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T-Dubb said:
he has bad games when he gets hit period homie. the giants ruffed him up in the opener an he didnt do shit, Denver knocked him around an he did even worse.......
Your whole theory is nice about hitting him and all but there are just a couple things. First off, those first two games you mentioned had nothing to do with any formula, it had to do with Garcia not getting him the ball like he so badly wants. The third game after those two he had 33 yards recieving against Arizona, less then both occasions. Did they "hit him" too? He then followed by an 89, 81 and 64 yard performance. Recievers arent going to get 100+ yards every game. Most importantly T-dubb, you say the Giants got him by hitting him and therefore stopped him. So tell me, why did Terrell Owens get 177 Yards recieving and 2 Touchdowns on the Giants that same year in the playoffs... did they forget to hit him?
 
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Actually, they did.

They didn't pop him like they did in the first game.....
And that my friend is one of the reasons he is so good, because they can't do it. That was the exact answer I was looking for. Just because they happened one game, doesnt mean things wont drastically change the next... I said it in my above post. They couldnt fuck with him in the second game, Owens made that happen.
 
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And that my friend is one of the reasons he is so good, because they can't do it.
But they did in the first game. He got knocked around and it seemed to bother him a bit.

Of course he and the team would find a way to not let that happen again, but it does seem that when teams do put a lick on him, he tends to shy away from the ball.

Either way...I don't care. I would take him on my team anyday...behind Harrison and a healthy David Boston.....
 
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But they did in the first game. He got knocked around and it seemed to bother him a bit.
That may be true, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger, you learn from your mistakes and the weaknesses exploited by your opposition. Thats how Owens went back the second game and scorched them for 177/2. You think Moss hasnt had bad games getting his ass knocked on the ground?
 
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so you are arguein with me Nitro an agreein at the same time.........point bein........when he gets hit, he dont play good as demonstrated by the giants an the Broncos......


an Joe Horn is tight, but he cant fuck with them dudes on Czars list.......an Boston doesnt have the greatest hands, but he could go head up with a linebacker an win
 
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Yo Tony actually the Saints are ok with me, especially Brooks, but I just like to get under your skin last year, and especially when u started sayin that they were gonna win the bowl, because I knew it wasnt no way that that was gonna happen!! But Horn is definitely a top 10 reciever, maybe even a lil higher, but he doesnt crack the top 5!!! And Boston actually has good hands, he just had a off year last year, plus he played hurt all year until he finally sat out the remainder of the season!! GOT EM!!!
 

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Nah man David Boston can't catch that good. The game in SF he dropped some easy balls. Your list is cool but also what about Rob Smith? My list would go like

Marvin Harrison
Jerry Rice
Joe Horn
T. Owens
Randy Moss (and if there was a 6 I'd go with Rod Smith)

David Boston is just known for his swole arms but I don't think he can catch that good. We'll have to see how he does in San Diego.
 

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T-Dubb said:
an Boston doesnt have the greatest hands, but he could go head up with a linebacker an win
I would have to see it to believe it. He has a swole upper body but his legs are skinny.
 
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That may be true, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger, you learn from your mistakes and the weaknesses exploited by your opposition. Thats how Owens went back the second game and scorched them for 177/2.
Doesn't matter to me. Like I said, I would take him on my team anyday.

You think Moss hasnt had bad games getting his ass knocked on the ground?
I never mentioned Moss...I could care less about him really.

He has all the talent in the world, but all that bickering he does makes him look like a little girl.
 
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David Boston is just known for his swole arms but I don't think he can catch that good.
Well, in 2001 (he was injured most of last year) he had 98 catches for nearly 1600 yards. I would say that's pretty good.


Nah man David Boston can't catch that good. The game in SF he dropped some easy balls.
Your judging his catching ability on one game?

David Boston has only been in the league for 4 years, and has only played in two full seasons...I think he'll be O.K.
 
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Everyone has their own opinions, but the fact remains...in the two full seasons that he has played, he has put up some good numbers.

He may have bad hands as you say, but with that kind of production...he must be doing something right.
 
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Haha Tony had J. Rice #2 on his list!! Dude u trippin, i was startin to respect your opinion a little, but Rice aint no damn top 5 reciever no more!!! But hey u have your opinion!! And u are wrong about Boston but well see!! GOT EM!!!
 
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T-Dubb said:
so you are arguein with me Nitro an agreein at the same time
Actually, no. I never really diasgreed with you to begin with. I accepted the fact that he was stopped in that game because he was hit, my arguement was that it isnt "the way to stop him". In so many words I agreed with you from the get, here is a quote from my first reply to you.

Nitro the Guru said:
Just because he had a bad game against one team doesnt mean whatever formula they used is the key because in another game it could be an entirely different story.
And it was, as he ran game all over the Giants. Owens is one of the biggest recievers in the game, its going to take more then hitting the guy to really stop him, especially now
 

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KINGCZAR said:
Haha Tony had J. Rice #2 on his list!! Dude u trippin, i was startin to respect your opinion a little, but Rice aint no damn top 5 reciever no more!!! But hey u have your opinion!! And u are wrong about Boston but well see!! GOT EM!!!
I still think J. Rice is a top 5 receiver. You have to consider the fact that he still went over 1,000 yards the past two seasons and everyone else on the Raiders (Brown, Garner, Porter) are getting balls thrown there way too and Jerry is still getting his. Plus didn't you see that post route he ran on Tampa Bay when he scored that touchdown? Rice still got it in him dog.
 

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Nitro the Guru said:


Actually, no. I never really diasgreed with you to begin with. I accepted the fact that he was stopped in that game because he was hit, my arguement was that it isnt "the way to stop him". In so many words I agreed with you from the get, here is a quote from my first reply to you.



And it was, as he ran game all over the Giants. Owens is one of the biggest recievers in the game, its going to take more then hitting the guy to really stop him, especially now
I think that is the way to stop Terrell Owens. You have to hit him early and he'll start dropping balls (because he'll be looking in the corner of his eyes thinking a safety is coming to lay a lick). I would double Owens every down and then I would keep my safety over the top of Owens every play.
 
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I can't stress enough that the formula you guys are talking about is not as you simple put it. What is more ligical here; You guys being smarter then every coach that has his team pounded by Terrell Owens, or that it is not as easy as just hitting him, hence, Terrell has his way on the field even with teams that did what you guys stated, such as the Giants. Sure it might have worked once or twice, but don't you think if it was that easy to stop him they would be hitting his ass every game. I mean if it was that easy, coaches would take a penalty by giving Owens an early hit before he catches the ball just to throw him off his game, but that is just not the case. Owens only flaw is his hands.