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no YOUR analogy is flawed. a bi-racial child is still HUMAN the same species and is a combinant of two races that can be easily reflected. nephilim have NO properties that make the humanlike OR angelic. they have neither position in heaven or hell equivalent of humans or angels. think again.

thank you for what? i still dont know what youre talking about???
but that still doesnt change my position.

every phoenix myth ive read has the same origin and meaning.
i guess that means no.

guess you dont know that either. read ezekiel. remember you said you read the entire bible too.

I had a copy with english and coptic side by side, the one i have now is all english. and coptic is the original. its a COPY of the oral tradition

i never mentioned anything about a water baptism. either or, its still not a jewish tradition its egyptian in origin

i like bill oriely because hes realla and stands by his ideas, but when hes wrong hes DEAD wrong, he just compounds it with his arrogance

the gospel of thomas isnt "Comprised" of the gospels it is quite possibly "Quelle"or "Q" the Source from which those myths were derived, and yes it IS gnostic (esoteric/the mysteries)mythological/allegorical. i want the answer that you were asking me for or both.

I said i recognized that jesus, not that i believed in him. dont make any conclusions that i didnt express. jesus is a good character in a good book

Im not dancing around it. im just waiting for your interpretation. after yours i'll give you mine

you still draw conclusions from my words that i didnt write, i said it doesnt necessitate, i didnt say that they didnt have similar traits in reference to a mule but i did say so about the nephilim.

what does the body have to do with what i said about H2O ????
i didnt mention anything about the body LOL. i understand that what youre trying to help me understand by that link is out of context

fact does not necessitate relevance.
the text IS and is being discussed in this context.

i dont have to read it if i wrote it, i know what im talking about, and you make a very bold assumption without recognizing that you arent an authority.

how can you find evidence in a question that i didnt answer, that was an "empty :) " assumption
the debate is worthy, it aint like you got a landslide win on this, basically i dont see where your winnin, it looks about even to me, (speaking humbly)

happy birthday, hope you enjoy the laugh. its all in fun to me.

put it like this, its all a debate to me, two premises in converse on a topic that has no relevence in the real world. angels and nephilim arent even real they are mythological as well. meat for a good story book.
 
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"@ hit the blunt: get ya mind right young one, i dont believe in the bible or any of yall religious bullshit i think they are all noteworthy literary pieces of art so i appreciate them as such. i have no religious superstitions or phobias as some of you have. Oh and why would i need to use the bible to prove that superstition is an neurosis? fact: jesus did preach of the four corners of the earth. do i believe it, NO amd i christian or foolish enough to think that jesus believed the world was round NO. i'll reiterate getcha mind right, you always come at me with some peanut gallery shit. "

I have debated with you before XianeX--on your old board. I do not waste my time any longer because nothing gets accomplished. You debate for debates sake and in my mind there is no point to that. Much of the time you will bring up information you already know is not correct and then wait for someone to correct you...then you debate it and then come out with something to the effect of "I knew that I just wanted to see if you knew what you were talking about". Only two conclusions can be drawn from that. You debate for debates sake or you really didn't know what the hell you were talking about and then pretend like you did after proved wrong. In either case it's a waste of my time to engage in discussion with you.
 
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ive only did that once @ say something wrong on purpose. otherwise ive known what i was talking about and true i do debate for its own sake for entertainment. oh i havent forgot you from my old board. and ever since then you try to sneak side shots at me like im slippin or suntin. call me on where im wrong, if i am i am, i aint ashamed of making mistakes, shit happens. but if im not wrong dont hate because i floss my intellect. i know way more than i let on or wish to share, heresy doesnt like that i do this because he feels i should explain my opinions, why and where they come from. but im like this. i spent my time learning it, i aint givin it away for free. i'll tell you in genral where to find it. but ive got better things to do than pinpoint information and catalog a perponderance of garbage in my head when i have much more relevant and crucial things to idealize about.

marinara
's all merry jane ;)
 

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no YOUR analogy is flawed. a bi-racial child is still HUMAN the same species and is a combinant of two races that can be easily reflected. nephilim have NO properties that make the humanlike OR angelic. they have neither position in heaven or hell equivalent of humans or angels. think again.
if they dont have properties that make them human like or angelic?

Deuteronomy 12:10-12

Deuteronomy 3:11

Joshua 13:12

Joshua 4:15

1 Samuel 17:4-7

2 Samuel 17:16-22

Numbers 13:33

Deuteronomy 2:20 - 21

ok now if they dont have properties of humans why are they wearing armor fit for humans? why are they holding swords fit for humans? why do they have toes and fingers like humans? why do they sleep on beds like humans?


the more you type about the subject the more you prove you dont know what your talking about. are you familiar with te "tall angels"?????? THEY HAVE NO PROPERTIES THAT MAKE THEM HUMAN LIKE YET THEY ARE CALLED "MIGHTY MEN WHICH WERE OF OLD, MEN OF REKNOWN GEN 6:4.

1 Enoch 15:8-10 STATES THAT THE GIANTS ARE BORN BECAUSE OF THE UNION BETWEEN SPIRIT AND FLESH. ITS OBVIOUS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GIRGORI OR THIS TOPIC. FOR YOU TO SAY THAT THEY DONT HAVE PROPERTIES THAT REFLECT EITHER RACE I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE VERSE PLACED BEFORE YOU AND DO RESEARCH. SO FAR YOU HAVE CAME WITH *NOTHING* TO BACK YOUR CLAIM.
thank you for what? i still dont know what youre talking about???
YOU HAVE NO POSITION.


every phoenix myth ive read has the same origin and meaning.
OK.
i guess that means no.
IF YOU SAY SO.........I GAVE YOU YOUR ANSWER.

guess you dont know that either. read ezekiel. remember you said you read the entire bible too.
1.WHAT DOES THE PHEONIX HAVE TO DO WITH NEPHILLIM AND THE OTHER GIANTS?

2.ARE YOU TRYING TO COMPARE THE PHOENIX WITH TYRE?

3.PLEASE SHOW ME A VERSE THAT REFERS TO THE PHOENIX (IN THE BOOK OF EZEKIAL)

I had a copy with english and coptic side by side, the one i have now is all english. and coptic is the original. its a COPY of the oral tradition
THE COPTIC IS ORIGINAL XIANIX????? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT??? SEE THIS IS WHY I KEEP TELLING YOU TO STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT. THE COPTIC VERSION IS NOT THE "ORIGINAL" VERSION. THE COPTIC IS A *TRANSLATION* OF THE *GREEK* VERSION. IF YOU WERE TO MAKE THIS CLAIM AMONGST SCHOLARS YOU WOULD BE STONED TO DEATH. I REPEAT THE COPTIC VERSION IS A *TRANSLATION*. SO YOU UNDERSTAND COPTIC WRITINGS????? LMAO!!!!!!! OK MAN.


HERES PROOF THAT ITS NOT THE ORIGINAL.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/gospel-of-thomas.htm

http://hometown.aol.com/ibss3/gospels.html

http://www.webcom.com/~ctt/gthomas.html


I CAN LIST OVER A THOUSAND MORE IF I WANT. I BET YOU CANT LIST 1 THAT SAYS THE COPTIC IS ORIGINAL. WHY? BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO STUDY THIS KNOW THAT ITS A TRANSLATION.

i never mentioned anything about a water baptism. either or, its still not a jewish tradition its egyptian in origin
IF YOU SAY SO. YOU MENTIONED BAPTISM AND DIDNT CLARIFY. NEXT TIME DO SO.
i like bill oriely because hes realla and stands by his ideas, but when hes wrong hes DEAD wrong, he just compounds it with his arrogance
TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR POSTS.

the gospel of thomas isnt "Comprised" of the gospels it is quite possibly "Quelle"or "Q" the Source from which those myths were derived, and yes it IS gnostic (esoteric/the mysteries)mythological/allegorical. i want the answer that you were asking me for or both.
Q1 Q2 OR Q3? IF THE GOSPELS ARE TAKEN FROM THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS (WHICH YOU SAID COULD POSSIBLY BE THE Q) WHICH Q IS IT FROM???????


1.THE 4 GOSPELS ARE SAID (BY EXPERTS AND SCHOLARS) TO BE WRITTEN BETWEEN 60-110 AD.


2.THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS IS SAID (BY EXPERTS) TO BE WRITTEN AROUND 120-150 AD.


HOW CAN IT BE THE Q? YES ITS ORAL AND STEMS FROM THE "ORAL" Q BUT TO SAY THAT THE CANON STEMS FROM THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS IS FOLLY. THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS DOESNT EVEN CONTAIN A NARRATIVE. SO ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT SOMEONE TOOK THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS AND MADE A SHORT STORY AROUND IT?

YOU WANT YOUR ANSWER? WHY IS IT THAT YOU CANT ANSWER A QUESTION POSED TO YOU? YOU ARE ON THE BOARD MAKING CLAIMS AND MENTIONING THINGS SO WHY CANT YOU ANSWER THEM??????? THE QUESTION HAS BEEN POSED TO *YOU*. YOU BEAR THE BURDEN OF PROOF NOT ME. YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT YOU RECOGNIZE JESUS FROM THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS. I ASKED YOU ABOUT 4 EXCERPTS FROM THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS YET YOU CANT ANSWER THEM.
I said i recognized that jesus, not that i believed in him. dont make any conclusions that i didnt express. jesus is a good character in a good book
I NEVER SAID THAT YOU BELIEVED IN HIM. ALL I SAID WAS THAT YOU RECOGNIZED HIM. HERE ARE MY WORDS AND I QUOTE THEM.



ok so you recognize a book of quotes and sayings. thats fine. so if you recognize the gospel of thomas you must recognize the following..........

1.PLEASE CUT AND PASTE ME IMPLYING THAT YOU DO OR DONT BELIEVE IN A "JESUS".


2.WHAT CONCLUSIONS HAVE I MADE IN REGARDS TO WHAT YOU DIDNT EXPRESS.

Im not dancing around it. im just waiting for your interpretation. after yours i'll give you mine
THATS VERY LOGICAL. YOU ARE ASKED A QUESTION YET YOU WANT THE OTHER PERSON TO ANSWER IT FIRST.......NOW IF I DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT I WOULD HOLD THE BURDEN OF PROOF..........BUT......LETS TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING.

YOU MENTIONED THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS SO ITS ON YOU TO HOLD THE BURDEN OF PROOF. IT WOULD HAVE NEVER CAME UP IF YOU DIDNT MENTION IT. NOW THAT YOU ARE ASKED ABOUT IT YOU CANT ELABORATE.

YES YOU ARE DANCING AROUND IT. JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.

you still draw conclusions from my words that i didnt write, i said it doesnt necessitate, i didnt say that they didnt have similar traits in reference to a mule but i did say so about the nephilim.
AND YOU ARE INCORRECT ABOUT THE NEPHILLIM. SEE THE BEGINING OF THIS POST. NOW COMPARE WHAT I JUST QUOTED YOU ON TO THIS
it also has neither of the efficiencies of its parent species.
PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR TWO STATEMENTS.

what does the body have to do with what i said about H2O ????
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT. IN ORDER TO SURVIVE YOU STILL NEED OXYGEN. WATER IS COMPRISED OF OXYGEN. WITHOUT WATER YOU ALSO SUFFER LACK OF OXYGEN. THAT IN TURN CAN LEAD TO MANY AILMENTS AND DEATH. IF YOU DONT SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE FUTILE ANALOGIES. JUST LIKE WATER STILL HAS OXYGEN NEPH HAVE TRAITS OF ANGELS AND HUMANS (SEE THE START OF MY POST).


fact does not necessitate relevance.the text IS and is being discussed in this context.
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i dont have to read it if i wrote it, i know what im talking about, and you make a very bold assumption without recognizing that you arent an authority.
1.IF I *WANTED* TO BECOME AN AUTHORITY (AND MAJOR IN THEOLOGY OR WHAT NOT) I COULD *EASILY* DO IT. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING RIDICULOUS STATEMENTS MY FRIEND. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS SHOWN A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. NOT ME.

EVIDENCE OF THIS IS ALL OVER YOUR POSTS.
how can you find evidence in a question that i didnt answer, that was an "empty " assumption the debate is worthy, it aint like you got a landslide win on this, basically i dont see where your winnin, it looks about even to me, (speaking humbly)

1.BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO ANSWER AND ELABORATE ON MATERIAL THAT *YOU* INIATED.

2.YOU WERE INCORRECT ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS (LOL@THE ORIGINALS BEING COPTIC). BY THE WAY WAS YOUR COPTIC VERSION SAHIDIC COPTIC?????
happy birthday, hope you enjoy the laugh. its all in fun to me.
HEY THANKS FOR THE HAPPY BDAY. HOWEVER IT PAYS ME TO SEE YOU RIDICULE YOURSELF......
put it like this, its all a debate to me, two premises in converse on a topic that has no relevence in the real world. angels and nephilim arent even real they are mythological as well. meat for a good story book.
IF ITS NOT RELEVENT TO THE REAL WORLD WHY TAKE PART IN THE DEBATE? SO IT IS A DEBATE RIGHT? WHY CANT YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OF YOU IN THIS DEBATE? SOMEONE MADE THIS TOPIC BECAUSE THEY SHOWED INTEREST IN THE SUBJECT MATTER AND WANTED TO LEARN. YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO HELP THAT PERSON (OR ANY OTHERS) LEARN ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER.


ITS SAFE TO SAY YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES IT EITHER.

@HIT THE BLUNT YOUR POST WAS 100% ACCURATE OF XIANEX AND HIS DEBATING ATROCITIES. HE HAS DONE THIS IN THE PAST AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. I HAVE PROVED THAT HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. JUST ASK HIM HOW THE COPTIC VERSION OF THOMAS IS THE ORIGINAL VERSION. THAT ALONE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT HE CLAIMS HE KNOWS.

BACK @XIANEX. I COULD CARE LESS OF WHERE YOU GET YOUR OPINIONS. I SIMPLY ASK YOU TO ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENTS. BY THE WAY WHAT DOES THE PHEONIX HAVE TO DO WITH NEPHILLIM??????

I DONT IGNORE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE BUT I WILL NOW PLACE YOU ON THE IGNORE LIST.


HERESY


PS EXCUSE ALL TYPOS
 
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you are sooooo funny, you get all emotional about this shit. i bet you prolly get a nut offa this shit. i say some shit you go bacc and study hard. obviously YOU didnt know all that you just wrote until you looked it up for the purpose of boasting. you are still a pion haha, if you knew what you just typed earlier you would have posted it then. im glad you feel special.

your proof is the opinions of other who have gleened their knowledge from others, therefore your proof is fruitless

you draw conclusions from things not written and conject where things arent even infered, as always youve successfully pleased me.

guess what?! i knew all that shit when i posted it. you didnt. it took you two days to find the proof to prove me wrong. viola congratulations :)

i have no position on what, you still never gave the purpose of that link. therefore it was fruitless. it gives me the liberty to draw whatever conclusion i wish without speculation

1. phoenix is unrelated ALL together. re read
2. did i mention tyre ???
3. where did i say that the phoenix was in ezekiel???

peep. like i said before this is all fun and games to me, to see a man get emotional about a story book. you always get so defensive. its always like a game with you, to see how long it takes for you to finally gather your darts. then to see you throw them with glea.

you miss the point. dude, i dont believe in jesus. funny hebrew gods and none of the like. i find good stories amusing.

its funny how you expect me to answer all your questions though you never answer mine in the same voracity as you ask.

i dont care if you ignore me or not. but i doubt that you will.
its folk like me that inspire you to keep digging. i spit a lil ism, you run with it.

im just waiting for the day you snap and realize how fruitless this all is. i'll put it like this. all these lil things you study and/or have studied ive studied also, but the difference is i KNOW why its effective, its proven every time i cause you to go on your march of truth. you're the brainwashed one folks, from your "?five years left" shit to your new world order conspiracy shit. man you're caught in the loop.

those "forces" that "brainwash" people have successfully ensnared you. see how easy it is for me to send you into a studying frenzy search for answers to give me when all your efforts will remain futile. your words fall on deaf ears here man. you're casting pearls before swine. you're kiccing against the priccs.

i give you little of nothing you run for answers come bacc with them and more questions i throw more bullshit at you and you run again. i mean i smiled reading the entire last post. i even laughed.

how can i be ridiculous when you're doing all the work, all the looking, all the proving. i said from the beginning i didnt care. i fucc with the religion posts now expressly just to fucc with you. hit the blunt aint shit. he rides your dicc because i descimated him on my board with a couple other folks. he's not half your caliber. you should make him a disciple. or a concubine (he already alll over your dicc).

I aint hatin on you man. i think youre hella smart, but i think your labor would be better spent in the studio.

but ultimately folks, if you get as much enjoyment outta these lil what nots as i do i dont mind. its good. laughter is great. one day we may meet and you get to know that i know much more than i let on. but as long as we're on the boards why should do what you effortlessly for me.

we'll speak again. always do. :)

all this over some mythological, unreal, fake, unconsequential storybook characters. man blow my mind sometimes. oowee
 
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"hit the blunt aint shit. he rides your dicc because i descimated him on my board with a couple other folks."

lol. Yes the same ol' XianeX. If I remember correctly was it not you threatening to ban me from your board half way through a debate because I didn't fit the 'profile' of thought on your board? Anyone have the stance that Jesus was more then a biblical character on that board is in danger of banishment. It was not everyone on your board that did not like me XianeX, it was simply you.
 
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@hit the blunt
but i never did ban you; you just decided to never post again. the profile was on some music shit you took it there with some off the wall off the subject out of context religious shit. i was contemplating banning you because of where you took it. that was not the image that i wanted for that site.

I never said i didnt like you. i just didnt/dont like how you post at me confrontationally. you've NEVER came at me civilized. therefore what do YOU expect. I wont respect disrespect. though you say whatever about people liking you, every one that posted on that thread was not on your side. sorry that that company went under.

be proud that you started and finished it. i aint madatcha. enjoy victory. i reciprocate whats given me. you come realla at me. i'll do the same.

marinara
 

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First off let me start by sayin you guys are the smartest people I've ever met. I think I got more answers to my questions in this post alone than out of the whole goddamn 3 years I've been lookin.
Heresy- how did you learn about all this? And is there a school or anything I can go to to learn the same? Nobody wants to give me a direct answer when I ask them about stuff like this. I don't know if there trying to encourage/discourage me or what, but all it does is piss me off. Reason being is if I ask you a question in truth I expect you to answer me in truth. That's just how I am. Granted I don't fully understand how people be talkin these days or they don't understand me. But I'm sick of the motherfuckin wild goose chases. Be it a test or not. I need REAL information as much and as fast as people can give it to me. I feel like I'm wastin my time just sittin around here and it gets worse everyday. I'm runnin out of money and places to go. And it feels like the whole freakin world is trying to get me to "join there team" or some shit. All I need to know is where the fuck are the good guys at cuz I've seen plenty of bad guys and I figure there's has got to be someone who can help me out.
My thoughts on Jesus- He was a REAL living breathing man. You can see proof of his "seed/influence" in any story fictional or non-fictional where there are good guys oppressed by the bad guys. Just how you guys say you comprise your knowledge based on the similarities of different teachings I comprise my knowledege based on what the world says. Meaning everything "talks" EVERYTHING. Sometimes I feel like people don't want to tell me stuff because they don't really BELIEVE in what they are sayin themselves they're lookin for proof and ways to proove it no matter how much faith they claim to have and the world suffers for this lack of faith. Me I'm lookin for truth and anybody who's willing to tell it to me. I figure if not one man on this planet is willing to tell me or teach me without the intent of decieving me into "joining thier team" then there really is no truth left in the world and the God I pray to is gonna be real angry with my conclusion. When Jesus does come back may whatever you pray to help you cuz God sure the hell isn't.

Heresy-I'll read the book of Enoch. Where can I find the book of Jasher and the War book? Thank you again for the information. Your a cool guy.


"Fuck your tests!"-J.C.Situation

"Only God can judge me."-Tupac
 
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jasher there are diffrent sites i found selling a translated version , wich one is real is the answer , i dont know to tell you. the war book has caught my attention , but i can find it over the internet
 

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@ ENDER. THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN TELL YOU IS TO READ FOR YOURSELF AND PRAY FOR WISDOM/INSIGHT. I WOULDNT GO TO SCHOOL (THEOLOGY SCHOOL) FOR THIS BECAUSE YOU WILL *REALLY* GET A WARPED VIEW. ITS MORE "SCHOOLISH" AND THATS GOOD TO A POINT BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ACTUAL *BELIEVE* WHAT THEY HAVE READ? HOW MANY OF THEM APPLY IT TO WHAT THEY SEE IN THE WORLD?

THE REASON I *KNOW* THE TRUTH IS BECAUSE ITS BEEN REVEALED AND ITS *NOT* HARD TO GRASP. WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS CUT THE BS OUT BEFORE YOU EVEN START.

1.READ AND STUDY FOR YOURSELF

2.APPLY THAT WHAT YOU SEE GOING ON

3.GET A CONCEPT OF ESCHATOLOGY AND HOW IT ACTUAL APPLIES TO WHATS GOING ON.

THE *PROOF* IS ACTUALLY IN "PROPHECY". WHEN YOU STUDY ESCHATOLOGY AND YOU SEE THAT MANY PROPHECIES HAVE BEEN FULFILLED YOU WILL START TO SEE. WHEN YOU SEE SOME HAVENT BECAUSE ITS NOT *TIME* YET YOU WILL APPLY IT TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE WORLD TODAY.

WHAT OTHER SOURCE TALKS ABOUT GLOBALISM AND THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE? WHAT OTHER SOURCE TALKS ABOUT ISRAEL BEING THE "BURDENSOME NATION"? WHAT OTHER SOURCE SPEAKS OF ISRAEL BEING MADE A COUNTRY AGAIN? WHAT OTHER SOURCE SPEAKS OF "THE WHOLE WORLD WATCHING"????

AT THIS POINT IN TIME YOU ACTUALLY DONT SEE "CHRISTIANS" BEING ACCEPTED. OPEN UP YOUR NEWSPAPER AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE CHRISTIANS IN CHINA. I FOUND AND ARTICLE LAST WEEK AND THE CHINESE CHRISTIANS ARE LIVING "UNDERGROUND". THEY ARE BEING KILLED,BEATEN AND THROWN IN JAIL.

ENDER THE GOOD GUYS ARE BASICALLY GONE. "THE GREAT FALLING AWAY" IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND WE CANT EVEN SEE IT. YOU HAVE LESS AND LESS PEOPLE WHO ARE "TRYING" TO DO WHATS RIGHT.

YES THE WORLD *IS* TRYING TO GET YOU TO JOIN. SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING BELIEVE THIS,JOIN THIS,DO THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH BUT WHO SHOULD YOU JOIN? WHO SHOULD YOU LISTEN TO? WHAT SHOULD YOU STUDY? NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO GO OUT AND DO IT ALONE. NOWS THE TIME FOR YOU TO REALLY STEP OUT AND STOP LISTENING TO MAN AND SEARCHING FOR HIS ANSWERS AND KNOWLEDGE. GOD CANNOT BE CONTAINED OR RESTRICED TO A BOOK. IF WE DIDNT HAVE SCRIPTURES WE WOULD STILL HAVE A "SENSE" OF THE CREATOR. WE ARE "STILL" LINKED TO OUR "ORIGINAL" SELVES BUT THE LINK IS WEAK. ITS BEING BROKEN BECAUSE OF THE EVILS OF THE WORLD AND OUR OWN HEARTS.


PEOPLE NEVER ACCEPT WHAT THEY DONT UNDERSTAND. WHEN THEY DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THEY WILL RESORT TO PERSECUTION, BLOOD SHED AND CARNAGE. 1 Corinthians 2:14 IS THE REASON WHY PEOPLE DONT AND CANT BELIEVE.


IN REGARDS TO THE BOOK OF JASHER. GOOD LOOK FINDING IT. I DOUBT THAT YOU WILL FIND A REAL VERSION OF IT. MAYBE THE VATICAN HAS THE REAL ONE BUT WHO KNOWS.

THE WAR BOOK IS ALSO HARD TO FIND. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND IT OVER THE NET. IF I WERE YOU I WOULD TRY A BOOK STORE OR PUBLIC LIBRARY (COLLEGE LIBRARIES HAVE A LOT OF INFO ALSO).

I WILL SEE IF I CAN LOCATE IT.


**UPDATE** AS IW AS TYPING THIS REPLY I WAS SEARCHING THE NET FOR SOMETHING AND I CAME ACROSS SOMETHING INTERESTING IN REGARDS TO THE MISSING BOOKS. ENDER I WILL SEND YOU AND BLUNT THE LINK. GLANCE OVER IT.


:h:


PS I HAVE TO GO PREPARE A TANK FOR MY MANTIS
 
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Thanks for brining it up CS. As a newbie on this board, I never knew the depths of theological discussion. My respects to all that shared their knowlege on this topic.