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Jun 23, 2002
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Nitro the Guru said:
Feel free to ask all the questions you want. I know when I'm working out I'm always asking myself what I should do and how I should do it. I just want to be efficient with my workouts. I want balance and shape to my muscles. I see some people in the gym jumping from machine to machine doing biceps, chest, shoulders, etc. I used to do that back in the day but I'm much more serious this time around.
I feel you nitro, I just started going to gym regulary (3 weeks now) for the first time, and there's hella info on what to do, how to do it, what supps to take, it just gets overwhelming because everybody has their own opinions. It takes awhile to see what works out best for yourself, which I don't think I have yet. Right now I'm 5'9 160 lbs., and it sucks having to eat a lot of protein every day to put on weight - but if that's the only way I have to do it.
 
May 4, 2002
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Nitro the Guru said:
Thanks for all the help folks. I have been puting some of this advice to work and so far it's been working out.



So I should just focus on regular, decline, and incline bench press? What about hammer strength chest workouts, or others such as those using the chords.



Are you adding weight after each set? I've seen people do this, where their last set is loaded and they do like 2-4 reps. But I haven't been changing the weight incriments, I just throw on as much as I can do 10 times and do 3-4 sets with it.

Another question. If my chest isn't sore the next day am I not pushing myself hard enough or does the pain only come during the first weeks of working out. I feel like maybe I'm cutting myself short when I wake up the next day and feel no tension or pain in my chest.
Flat bench, inclines and declines are pretty much the standard for chest workouts. Make sure you use barbells and dumbells. Switch them up.

Always add weight after each set. There's no reason to lift weights if you are not adding weight on each one. You do want to build muscle right? Never do more than 8 reps on any lift except for your calves and shoulders.

You're not always going to be sore. Eventually, you get to a point where, even though you are adding weight and lifting harder, you won't be getting sore. That doesn't mean you aren't making gains though.

As far as cardio goes, running a mile isn't going to really hinder your progress.

Stick the needle in your ass too. You aren't a diabetic, so don't stick it in your stomach.
 
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As far as a range for reps, I wouldn't go below 4 or over 15, but I rarely set out to do as little as 4 reps. The majority of my sets are scheduled to work out between 6-10 reps, but like I said it's not set in stone. If i feel like I can do a couple extra reps I won't hesitate to. I always go to failure on every set. The majority of the 12 rep and up sets are my warm up sets. (these shouldn't be heavy at all, just enough to give you a good stretch and warm up the bodypart(s)) The rest of the high rep sets are either for legs or any other body part for a good pump at the end of the workout.

For chest I'd recommend doing db/bb flat press, db/bb incline press, machine presses, DIPS instead of declines, and push ups...
I don't really like flies that much. Some cats say they work great for them, but I think it stresses my shoulders way too much without putting enough stress on my chest. Oh yeah, cable movements can be useful too, but for chest I'd stay away from them until you get the development your looking for using the aforementioned exercises.

As long as you're improving either by adding weight to an exercise or adding a couple of reps with the same weight you used the workout before you're cool. Don't worry about adding weight to each and every set, for every workout, every week.

Smitty's right about the soreness. Initally you'll get really sore. It's just because your body's never been under that kinda stress. It'll come back after you take a break and/or change up the exercises.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
So I should just focus on regular, decline, and incline bench press? What about hammer strength chest workouts, or others such as those using the chords.
Your basics should be flat bench and incline, both barbell and dumbells, and flies. And like Indigo said, you should do dips instead of decline.

You could do the others too, but I would only use them when looking to switch things up a bit.

Nitro the Guru said:
Are you adding weight after each set? I've seen people do this, where their last set is loaded and they do like 2-4 reps. But I haven't been changing the weight incriments, I just throw on as much as I can do 10 times and do 3-4 sets with it.
Yes, I am adding weight after each set. If you are doing 6-8 reps, you want your last rep to fall within that rep range. Same if you are doing 4-6, 2-4, or 1-2.

You don't necessarily have to add weight though. If you do 6-8 reps, but you struggle getting up number 6, then you may not want to add more weight. If you keep it at that same weight, you will probably fall into the 4-6 reps...which is OK. You can only do what your body will do.

You just have to play around with it and see what you can do. Take notes on what you're lifting...that way you won't forget what you lifted and how many reps you did.

Nitro the Guru said:
Another question. If my chest isn't sore the next day am I not pushing myself hard enough or does the pain only come during the first weeks of working out. I feel like maybe I'm cutting myself short when I wake up the next day and feel no tension or pain in my chest.
Soreness has nothing to do with how much you are pushing yourself. See what Smitty and Indigo said.
 
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Smitty said:
Never do more than 8 reps on any lift except for your calves and shoulders.
That's some bad advice man.....

RAVAGE said:
all you gatta do is do what BLIGHT would do.
Just cause we don't post our pictures on here doesn't mean we don't know what we're talking about.

Some of us may be just as big (if not bigger).
 
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Not if you want to gain muscle. Calves and shoulders need more reps, every other muscle should be 4-8 reps. Maybe 10 reps on your first set for bis and tris. We're talking about gaining muscle not working out like a girl. More weight, less reps period.

Anyways, when have we ever agreed on anything?
 
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I would agree with you on calves...but not shoulders.

And I don't remember agreeing with you on anything...then again, I don't remember disagreeing with you either.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
I'm building my body up and have some questions for those who are expierenced ib this area. I've been going for a little while now and I have improved my body, but I'm trying to target areas that seem to be lacking.

Where you at Blight?

1. Other than typical chest workouts, are there any other parts of my body that I need to work out in order to increase the strength in my chest? I asked my friend and he told me working out my back and shoulders (something I don't do very often) will help a little, but that if I work out my legs it will speed up the strength of my upper body, especially my chest. Sounded a little odd so I wanted to ask that first.

2. I do my abs every time I work out and have seen dramatic results, but not in all areas. I have formed lines in a cross pattern. One vertically down my stomach and one horizontally in the middle, but the other two horizontal lines (upper & lower) are not to be seen. What are the best ways to work my upper and lower abs with as much isolation as possible?

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4. I got some roids from a friend of mine at the gym. Do I stick the needle into my stomach or my ass?

5. What is *the best* way to work out my middle chest? I've tried benching while holding the bar towards the middle and it has helped a little. I also tried fly's but I don't feel any tension in the middle. Are these the two best ways to shape the middle of my chest?

I have a bunch more questions that arn't coming to mind right now, but If I can get some help in these areas I would greatly appreciate it! I will post other questions if people are down to help me out.

Oh yeah, I really didn't get any roids you dickhead!


try squating , and do your back for christ sake ! deads lifts ill get you big , so for squats , squats work you hips legs , lower back theses two and bench should be a corner stone of your routines maybe throw in some power cleans , also for strength try doin pryramids you know going up in weight in each set then after the a really heavey set go back down to in weight . btw squats will get you big upper body as well as lower studies have shown. keep on runnin a while after work out its not like you are trying to be a body builder plus the more wind/stamina you got the more reps you'll be able to push out. you should do your whole body from the bottum up , if you wanna build a table it needs stronge legs
 
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YOuNg WiNo said:
you should do your whole body from the bottum up , if you wanna build a table it needs stronge legs

so true! ... muscle grows most efficiently when the entire body is being worked out. u can get bigger everywhere if you dont skip parts. skipping legs is one of the worst things u can do. plus people with a big upper body and chicken legs look fuckin retarded.