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I'm building my body up and have some questions for those who are expierenced ib this area. I've been going for a little while now and I have improved my body, but I'm trying to target areas that seem to be lacking.

Where you at Blight?

1. Other than typical chest workouts, are there any other parts of my body that I need to work out in order to increase the strength in my chest? I asked my friend and he told me working out my back and shoulders (something I don't do very often) will help a little, but that if I work out my legs it will speed up the strength of my upper body, especially my chest. Sounded a little odd so I wanted to ask that first.

2. I do my abs every time I work out and have seen dramatic results, but not in all areas. I have formed lines in a cross pattern. One vertically down my stomach and one horizontally in the middle, but the other two horizontal lines (upper & lower) are not to be seen. What are the best ways to work my upper and lower abs with as much isolation as possible?

3. I am trying to gain weight naturally by eating as much as I can. How much if any, will cardio slow this process? I like to run a mile when I finish my workout but I don't want to be pigging out (waisting money) all day only to lose it all through cardio.

4. I got some roids from a friend of mine at the gym. Do I stick the needle into my stomach or my ass?

5. What is *the best* way to work out my middle chest? I've tried benching while holding the bar towards the middle and it has helped a little. I also tried fly's but I don't feel any tension in the middle. Are these the two best ways to shape the middle of my chest?

I have a bunch more questions that arn't coming to mind right now, but If I can get some help in these areas I would greatly appreciate it! I will post other questions if people are down to help me out.

Oh yeah, I really didn't get any roids you dickhead!
 
Jun 27, 2002
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well for training i like to get out the rollerblades and dodge traffic on 280 or 101,
at times i blindfold myself for reflex training ....

For strength training i do 3 day coke binges or 5 day crystal runs ( instant cardio as well ) along with weight lifting (moving furniture 3 or 4 times )
For recovery i do Joint Curls or a few sets of Blunt rolls...followed by a bit of Remote work, a couple hours of GTA San Andreas is great for hand eye coordination ( as well as porn )

and fuck steroids dogg, try some crystal...and dont inject in your ass or stomach, go straight for the jugular vein , now thats a real rush, you'll feel like superman...i did 5 sets of 15 and benched 475 one night...and i only weigh 127 lbs.



Now Blight, please answer the mans questions
 
Apr 25, 2002
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OK here we go...

1. Uhhhh... come on buddy. You should be working out your ENTIRE body for optimal mass and strength gains. There's a hell of a lot more to weight lifting that being a beachboy :ghey: Stick to compound movements; those exercises that recruit more than one muscle group, ie Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Bent-Over Rows, Pull-ups...etc.

The Barbell Bench Press itself is a movement that utilizes the lats on the lower portion of the ROM (range of motion), then heavily relies upon the triceps through the center part of the ROM and finally the chest near the top.

I mean, do you wanna be BIG up top with a pair of toothpick legs?? You'd look like a tool, pal. In response to your friends statement, however, squatting raises overall testosterone levels in your body which are important in maintaining an anabolic environment for your muscles.

2. You will see better gains for your abs if you allow them to rest for a couple days between workouts. Your abdominals are just like any other muscle in your body; when stressed, muscle fibers are broken down and rely upon the Central Nervous System (CNS) to repair the muscle and adapt it to hold a heavier load in the future. This is a repair process that takes 2-4 days depending on the person and the degree to which the muscle was fatigued during the workout. You are hindering growth by not allowing them to fully repair.

There are various ab exercises to isolate certain regions. Some of the most common ones are Weighted Sit-ups on a Decline Bench or the Roman Chair, which is like a chair with no bottom where you raise your lower torso to a seated position, with your quads being parallel to the ground. Form is important here since you could easily make the exercise less effective by using momentum to swing your body or legs.



Stay tuned for answers to 3, 4 and 5.
 

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I think we need a DUDES forum on the siccness. You can ask what cologne you rock, should we wear boxers/briefs, what kind of facial wash we use, should dudes use moisturizer?, how tight are jeans should be, how many buttons we need to button when we dress up, you get my point.

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to see better results in your chest......Do REVERSE INCLINE on the free bench (head board all the way down)

for abs (if at a gym) do sitting twists on the machine......it works your entire mid-section

stick that shit in your ass at a downward angle......not horizontal

always push yourself in the gym, or your waisting your time

8reps 4times is my standard

take protein to keep your bulk (whey) and creatine after the work out to tighten muscles (over time you will notice this) 2 weeks depending on workout consistency...

give it a shot.....later
 
Nov 24, 2003
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Nitro the Guru said:
, but that if I work out my legs it will speed up the strength of my upper body, especially my chest. Sounded a little odd so I wanted to ask that first.

This is very true, its important to excercise each portion of your body equally in order to get the best results. If your legs are not gaining muscles your upper body will only get so big in proportion to the lower.

Secondly, try doing dumbell press instead of incline/decline/bench on alternate days to very the workout and give more attention to the chest. Also doing skull crushers without straightening your albows will focus on the chest muscles.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
1. Other than typical chest workouts, are there any other parts of my body that I need to work out in order to increase the strength in my chest? I asked my friend and he told me working out my back and shoulders (something I don't do very often) will help a little, but that if I work out my legs it will speed up the strength of my upper body, especially my chest. Sounded a little odd so I wanted to ask that first.
The only thing that will increase strength in your chest is working out your chest. Certain body parts do work together when working out though (i.e. for chest, your triceps and shoulders are also being worked), but that doesn't make your chest stronger.

Working out your legs doesn't speed up the strength and development of your upper body, but it does help with overall body development.

Nitro the Guru said:
2. I do my abs every time I work out and have seen dramatic results, but not in all areas. I have formed lines in a cross pattern. One vertically down my stomach and one horizontally in the middle, but the other two horizontal lines (upper & lower) are not to be seen. What are the best ways to work my upper and lower abs with as much isolation as possible?
What most people fail to realize is that abs don't even have to be worked that much. Try lowering your body fat. It sounds like they are already showing...try slimming down a bit and see how that works.

Nitro the Guru said:
3. I am trying to gain weight naturally by eating as much as I can. How much if any, will cardio slow this process? I like to run a mile when I finish my workout but I don't want to be pigging out (waisting money) all day only to lose it all through cardio.
It depends on how many calories you are taking in/burning.

Say for example you are eating 2400 calories a day. You want to stick with this much to gain say 10 pounds. If you eat 2400 a day, but you turn around and burn 500 doing cardio, your results are going to be seriously hindered.

You have two options:

1. Don't do cardio. Maybe 5 minutes or so before you work out to warm up.

2. Do cardio, but then you'll have take in more calories to offset your cardio.


As far as the chest goes, I don't think there is a best way to work the middle of your chest. You work your chest...that's it. The middle of your chest isn't separated from the rest of your chest. It's all connected. I think that if you stick with the basics you should be fine.

On a side note, it seems like you want your abs to show, but yet you want to gain weight at the same time. That's kinda hard to do. You have to do one or the other.

If you want to gain weight, do that...and then slim down later.
 
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try to limit cardio cause that shit kills muscle growth...maybe cardio twice per week?

also for a great chest exercise is using the cables and doing a butterfly with those or crossing your wrists when punching down with the cables...shit will get yo chest bouncing
 
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1. Other than typical chest workouts, are there any other parts of my body that I need to work out in order to increase the strength in my chest? I asked my friend and he told me working out my back and shoulders (something I don't do very often) will help a little, but that if I work out my legs it will speed up the strength of my upper body, especially my chest. Sounded a little odd so I wanted to ask that first.

Your back, shoulders, and tri's will all help you get a bigger bench, which will also result in a bigger chest.

2. I do my abs every time I work out and have seen dramatic results, but not in all areas. I have formed lines in a cross pattern. One vertically down my stomach and one horizontally in the middle, but the other two horizontal lines (upper & lower) are not to be seen. What are the best ways to work my upper and lower abs with as much isolation as possible?

Look others said, abs are more a result of a strict diet and cardio. While working the abs helps, you don't need to train them everyday you work out. Rather, focus on getting you body fat below 10% and you should start to see them.

3. I am trying to gain weight naturally by eating as much as I can. How much if any, will cardio slow this process? I like to run a mile when I finish my workout but I don't want to be pigging out (waisting money) all day only to lose it all through cardio.

Well, if you want to try to gain as much weight as possible, there is really no need for cardio. I am currently bulking up, and don't do any cardio at the moment. If you don't want to gain a lot of fat while bulking, try to do a little cardio to offset all the food you will be eating, but obviously you won't gain as much weight.

5. What is *the best* way to work out my middle chest? I've tried benching while holding the bar towards the middle and it has helped a little. I also tried fly's but I don't feel any tension in the middle. Are these the two best ways to shape the middle of my chest?

There is no such thing as a middle chest. Stick to doing bench, incline & decline, fly's, and whatever else you do and you will see results.
 
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1. like other cats said your shoulders, lats, and tris need to be worked throughout the week too..working your legs won't get your chest much bigger directly.. but it may increase your overall discipline and that would help you during all of your workouts.... another benefit is that you won't look like the local ass head who only works his chest and biceps

2. You might get better results working them once a week.. but if what you're doing's working, keep at it.. the most imortant thing i found is to work your lower abs first then any/all other areas of your abs...

3. Either bulk or cut..... doing both at the same time will slow down your progress big time... while bulking, cardio is pointless to me... especially if what you do on a daily basis outside of lifting involves being moderately active

4. lol

5. Keep upping the weights and calories man.... it'll take a while to develop your entire chest.. you're probably doing everything right, just be patient... also your bodyfat level may be stopping you from realizing how "complete" your chest really is...


pm me if you want man...
 
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mattjoke said:
^^ how many reps do you do per set when you bulk? 8-12?
Set 1 - 6-8 reps
Set 2 - 4-6 reps
Set 3 - 2-4 reps
Set 4 - 1-2 reps

Higher reps is more for maintaining muscle mass. You should use higher reps if/when losing weight.


Pino...Nitric Oxide is a waste of money.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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Thanks for all the help folks. I have been puting some of this advice to work and so far it's been working out.

gimpypimp said:
The only thing that will increase strength in your chest is working out your chest. Certain body parts do work together when working out though (i.e. for chest, your triceps and shoulders are also being worked), but that doesn't make your chest stronger.
So I should just focus on regular, decline, and incline bench press? What about hammer strength chest workouts, or others such as those using the chords.

gimpypimp said:
Set 1 - 6-8 reps
Set 2 - 4-6 reps
Set 3 - 2-4 reps
Set 4 - 1-2 reps
Are you adding weight after each set? I've seen people do this, where their last set is loaded and they do like 2-4 reps. But I haven't been changing the weight incriments, I just throw on as much as I can do 10 times and do 3-4 sets with it.

Another question. If my chest isn't sore the next day am I not pushing myself hard enough or does the pain only come during the first weeks of working out. I feel like maybe I'm cutting myself short when I wake up the next day and feel no tension or pain in my chest.
 
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Feel free to ask all the questions you want. I know when I'm working out I'm always asking myself what I should do and how I should do it. I just want to be efficient with my workouts. I want balance and shape to my muscles. I see some people in the gym jumping from machine to machine doing biceps, chest, shoulders, etc. I used to do that back in the day but I'm much more serious this time around.