Nearly Half of Blacks/Latinos Drop Out of School
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actually it is the governments fault, u pretentious prick. If the Federal Housing Association didnt blacklist black people from buying houses in the suburbs, then maybe things would be EQUAL. maybe all ethnicities would have the equal opportunities that the privileged whites have.
Maybe if the very thing this country is run on, capitalism, didnt leech off of minorities and put them there in the first place, this "choice" of staying in school wouldnt be so fucking hard.
can u blame them that they might feel making easy money is better for them than staying in school and not getting in to the college of their choice and getting the job they want? can u blame them for trying to make easy money off the very system that kept them down in the first place?
^^^Good reply.
Maybe so, but the stance that "everyone has their own choice" is a common theme amongst Republicans/Conservatives. They fail to calculate the social environments that a majority of young black/latinos are raised in.
Getting warmer. Why do blacks/latinos live in high dense inner-city areas (or ghettos)...
Give me a break. Over 70% of rap consumers are white. Another republican response - blame rap.
Maybe so, but the stance that "everyone has their own choice" is a common theme amongst Republicans/Conservatives. They fail to calculate the social environments that a majority of young black/latinos are raised in.
Getting warmer. Why do blacks/latinos live in high dense inner-city areas (or ghettos)...
Give me a break. Over 70% of rap consumers are white. Another republican response - blame rap.
^^ (responding to dub)
dont get all riled up...physco logic has always had some ignorant ass ideas on these typa things.
of course ppl do have a choice...but like i mentiond in earlier post...simple choices some ppl make might not be so simple for others...college aint free...how is a kid earning mikey ds money going to afford college when his/her parents barely getting by supporting kids, bills, etc etc.
also, one of the strongest things in life is peer pressure, and kids need role models to succeed in school and life...what type of role modles hang out in the hood?
dont get all riled up...physco logic has always had some ignorant ass ideas on these typa things.
of course ppl do have a choice...but like i mentiond in earlier post...simple choices some ppl make might not be so simple for others...college aint free...how is a kid earning mikey ds money going to afford college when his/her parents barely getting by supporting kids, bills, etc etc.
also, one of the strongest things in life is peer pressure, and kids need role models to succeed in school and life...what type of role modles hang out in the hood?
proven facts...were do the majority of drop outs reside?
in lower class neighborhoods
who occupies these lower class neighborhoods"
the majority are minorities. (oxymoron?)
im sure im not the only one here who was born in an area infested w gangs, prostitutes and drugs...look around most of these kids is home alone with no parental supervision, wether its because theyre parents work or because its a broken home...kids having kids in these areas...then those kids have close to no parental supervision...because we all know a handful of irresponsible parents...and theres many just like them...unfortunately due to circumstances the majority of these ppl are minorities.
another group of ppl that fit into these categories are imiigrants, and offspring of immigrants where the whole family chips in, they send money back home, some dont learn the language here enought to continue w college or a good paying job, its just life...not entirely the parents fault, i think more than anything its a product of environment...were all pridcuts of our environment...ppl like to assume that since we can all make our minds up that its that easy, but its easier said than done...fuck , me being a levelheaded individual in middle class suburbia now, i found it hard to get motivated for school for my first 13-15 yr of school.
in lower class neighborhoods
who occupies these lower class neighborhoods"
the majority are minorities. (oxymoron?)
im sure im not the only one here who was born in an area infested w gangs, prostitutes and drugs...look around most of these kids is home alone with no parental supervision, wether its because theyre parents work or because its a broken home...kids having kids in these areas...then those kids have close to no parental supervision...because we all know a handful of irresponsible parents...and theres many just like them...unfortunately due to circumstances the majority of these ppl are minorities.
another group of ppl that fit into these categories are imiigrants, and offspring of immigrants where the whole family chips in, they send money back home, some dont learn the language here enought to continue w college or a good paying job, its just life...not entirely the parents fault, i think more than anything its a product of environment...were all pridcuts of our environment...ppl like to assume that since we can all make our minds up that its that easy, but its easier said than done...fuck , me being a levelheaded individual in middle class suburbia now, i found it hard to get motivated for school for my first 13-15 yr of school.
also, the ppl living w depression in lower class neighborhoods is also greater imo...you take a single mom whos got 3 kids and working 2 jbs to maintain a shitty as apartnment, stress is bound to come up more often that not...i dont know if htere are statistics but i garuantee you that per resident, lower class neighborhoods have a higher rate of depression...i dont know if any of you ppl have experiences w this bitch of a feeling but let me tell you, when youre on it, its hard to find motivation do do much of anything, especially go sit in class and listen to some person talk and talk and tes and test.
^^^^all personal opinion on this one though.
^^^^all personal opinion on this one though.
i can speak on it cuz i feel like i been on and seen a few sides of this fence many times.....
i am a lower middle class minority latino.....i was born to a cuban immigrant father and US born mexican mother.....niether was rich....my fathers family were once pretty wealthy bacc in Cuba but came here wit very little after socialism took over......they came to america in search of what they feel Castro took from them.....but i wonder how much different my life would have been had i been born and raised in socialist Cuba....i know id of had more opportunities than i had here......school, housing, healthcare......
my mom left my dad when i was a baby cuz he was nuts and ended up in prison for a while.....she married my stepdad when i was like 2 .....he was also an immigrant but from El Salvador and had came to Daly City wit his father when he was around 14....he had a more sheltered life growin up and got good grades....graduated from high school and went straight to the Air Force.....military aint all that its cracced up to be and livin on base we was still minorities and my step dad was low ranked so we experianced 1st hand capitolist oppression at its finest.....high ranks and families always had better shit.....our housing was ghetto and we lived around hella other minority families......when i was 4 -5 we were at the former Norton Air Force base in southern cali the housing wasnt even on base unless you were high ranked and the housing area they provided for us was basically like projects or somethin.....had one fence around it but no one ever guarded the shit and there were hella holes in it.....all kinds a drama was always goin on and people from off base would always be there.....dope was being sold......shit was gettin stolen....the school i went to was offbase in riverside or san bernadino or rialto???? i cant remember the actual city that Norton was in.....that elementary school was worse than any school i ever went to even high school.....kids was all hella bad and there was fights like every recess every day......bacc at home my parents was always fightin.....step dad gettin drunk all the time.....but life was sustained and we ate had shelter and healthcare......we went overseas to turkey when i was 6 for one year.....that was nicest place i ever lived in in my entire life so far.....that base housing was great....2 story house wit marble floors big baccyard.....turkish folks from offbase for gardners and maids....but they was poor as hell and would steal from us sometimes.....the school i went to here was good......although i have a naturally high IQ i think the education i recieved in my early years from my mom and the actual military base schools really did make an impact in my capabilities to learn.....had i went to schools that my cousins and other civilans attended like the one in southern cali for my whole life i think i wouldnt have learned as much.....i went to onbase elementary schools from 2nd grade till 5th....was a straight a student till jr high.....we was livin on Travis AFB now in between Vacaville and Fairfield here in northern cali.....the middle school i went to was right off the base but was mixed wit military and civilian kids from all three "cities"......it wasnt much different than most jr highs im guessin.....this is were i ended up piccin up on the gang influence...started doin drugs.....hangin out wit bad mafuccaz....became a bad mafucca....my step dad was stationed in other countries a lot while my moms was tryin to take care of us and when he did come home they was fightin a lot.....i was pretty much unsupervised or disciplined until he was around....we got bold to the point we was on base bangin and partyin and not givin a fucc and that didnt last too long before the SP's started to really trip on us.....you think cops is bad these mafuccaz treated us kids like we was some mafia organization and would always come to my house and search and take me in and keep me in a cell for hours tryin to get me to admit to shit half of which i didnt have a clue of anyways....eventually all the shit me n my brother did....my mom n pops fightin.....his dui's all that shit added up and the military was tired of our asses......they tol him to take an early retirement so he had to listen or get dishonorable discharge.....i was banned from entering Travis AFB ever again (i face up to 6 months or a $1000 fine if im caught there now).......my moms divorced him and we all moved offbase....i spent the next couple years really broke and in trouble livin wit my stepdad or my moms bacc n forth.....stopped goin to school.....hanged out on the streets kept gettin arrested till i was finnaly locced up for a while in juvie....they was gonna send me to a boys ranch to work n shit but i made a deal and signed a CYA contract to go into a foster home in vallejo instead....but if i fucced up once it was off to Youth Authority......being locced up and on probation goin to special schools i caught up wit most my credits cuz the work was damn near kindergarden level.....i was still into some trouble but all these things kept me in checc......then when i was almost 18 the courts let me move bacc wit my moms who now lived in stoccton.....so bacc to the ghetto life for me....soon as they took me off probation i dropped out a school like half a year before i shoulda graduated.....had to work to help moms pay rent.....i didnt see any reason at the time to stay in school....no one really to guide me or show me somethin special about college to wanna go.....so i said fucc it i can work now and make money.....so i did that and have lived a continuous pattern of job to job checc to checc movin here to there ever since.....dont really remember a really great time in my life that i havent had to struggle or where shit was comin to me easy......i did get my GED while i was livin in Arizona when i was 20 years old.....ive come to realize on my own now the potential of goin to college and all the different shit there actually is in school.....when i was 17 i didnt have any aspirations to be a rapper or a producer or a graphics artist......i didnt know that higher learning could lead me to a real career that i might actually enjoy while being successful.....no one taught me this....no one explained it to me or showed me evidence of it.....i found out on my own from real OG's wit game and knowledge and many other examples all around us.....the whole problem was that most my life no one was around to guide me in a good direction....to inform me that life didnt have to be bad.....that it wasnt always gonna be such a struggle....only real thing i learned growin up was that you had to work to make a livin and thas what i thought was most important......
anyways i thought id share that to give a better perspective on it....cuz its a lil bit of what everyones been saying......cirumstances, decision makin, environment, role models, government, racism,classism, capitolism, ignorance, education, media, trends...... all these things play into what a person becomes in the long run and the way shit is goin in this country too many people are suffering cuz of the shit that is not in thier control.....we can only make decisions based on the options we have at hand.....and those options may not even be clear most of the time so the most obvious, quicc fix is always chozen......
but how do we change???? wit ourselves and our fellow sufferers.....no one is goin to help us....in fact shit is being made harder every year for EVERY american unless you are very rich and powerful......people think gangs are stupid....thas what the media and gov want you to think....gangs were started for a cause....crips and bloods werent made up overnight jus so folks could kill each other over senseless things....the CIA created that drama and continue to fucc up any threatning organization of self supporting minorities so that it doesnt become an actual revolution....theres a million dumb kids out there bangin shit now and dont even know why.....theres a million kids gettin high and droppin out....but dont really know why......dying on the streets but no one knows the fucc WHY??????
if you can see through this bullshit then you should take it upon yourself and help someone....... anyone out.....find a youngsta that shows potential and isnt too late to be unplugged from this matrix we live in.....show kids theres a reason to be alive and want to succeed.....that theres more than prison and bacc breakin work to this world......that knowledge will lead our different races to be equal one day.....that followin bullshit trends and ideas isnt the way to happiness.....that THEY are the key to a truly FREE world.....the ones oppressing us are doin everything in thier power to make sure thier own futures and thier offsprings futures are preserved so why shouldnt we????
its to the point that blaming isnt enough.....if you can see the problem then you can figure how to fix it......
i am a lower middle class minority latino.....i was born to a cuban immigrant father and US born mexican mother.....niether was rich....my fathers family were once pretty wealthy bacc in Cuba but came here wit very little after socialism took over......they came to america in search of what they feel Castro took from them.....but i wonder how much different my life would have been had i been born and raised in socialist Cuba....i know id of had more opportunities than i had here......school, housing, healthcare......
my mom left my dad when i was a baby cuz he was nuts and ended up in prison for a while.....she married my stepdad when i was like 2 .....he was also an immigrant but from El Salvador and had came to Daly City wit his father when he was around 14....he had a more sheltered life growin up and got good grades....graduated from high school and went straight to the Air Force.....military aint all that its cracced up to be and livin on base we was still minorities and my step dad was low ranked so we experianced 1st hand capitolist oppression at its finest.....high ranks and families always had better shit.....our housing was ghetto and we lived around hella other minority families......when i was 4 -5 we were at the former Norton Air Force base in southern cali the housing wasnt even on base unless you were high ranked and the housing area they provided for us was basically like projects or somethin.....had one fence around it but no one ever guarded the shit and there were hella holes in it.....all kinds a drama was always goin on and people from off base would always be there.....dope was being sold......shit was gettin stolen....the school i went to was offbase in riverside or san bernadino or rialto???? i cant remember the actual city that Norton was in.....that elementary school was worse than any school i ever went to even high school.....kids was all hella bad and there was fights like every recess every day......bacc at home my parents was always fightin.....step dad gettin drunk all the time.....but life was sustained and we ate had shelter and healthcare......we went overseas to turkey when i was 6 for one year.....that was nicest place i ever lived in in my entire life so far.....that base housing was great....2 story house wit marble floors big baccyard.....turkish folks from offbase for gardners and maids....but they was poor as hell and would steal from us sometimes.....the school i went to here was good......although i have a naturally high IQ i think the education i recieved in my early years from my mom and the actual military base schools really did make an impact in my capabilities to learn.....had i went to schools that my cousins and other civilans attended like the one in southern cali for my whole life i think i wouldnt have learned as much.....i went to onbase elementary schools from 2nd grade till 5th....was a straight a student till jr high.....we was livin on Travis AFB now in between Vacaville and Fairfield here in northern cali.....the middle school i went to was right off the base but was mixed wit military and civilian kids from all three "cities"......it wasnt much different than most jr highs im guessin.....this is were i ended up piccin up on the gang influence...started doin drugs.....hangin out wit bad mafuccaz....became a bad mafucca....my step dad was stationed in other countries a lot while my moms was tryin to take care of us and when he did come home they was fightin a lot.....i was pretty much unsupervised or disciplined until he was around....we got bold to the point we was on base bangin and partyin and not givin a fucc and that didnt last too long before the SP's started to really trip on us.....you think cops is bad these mafuccaz treated us kids like we was some mafia organization and would always come to my house and search and take me in and keep me in a cell for hours tryin to get me to admit to shit half of which i didnt have a clue of anyways....eventually all the shit me n my brother did....my mom n pops fightin.....his dui's all that shit added up and the military was tired of our asses......they tol him to take an early retirement so he had to listen or get dishonorable discharge.....i was banned from entering Travis AFB ever again (i face up to 6 months or a $1000 fine if im caught there now).......my moms divorced him and we all moved offbase....i spent the next couple years really broke and in trouble livin wit my stepdad or my moms bacc n forth.....stopped goin to school.....hanged out on the streets kept gettin arrested till i was finnaly locced up for a while in juvie....they was gonna send me to a boys ranch to work n shit but i made a deal and signed a CYA contract to go into a foster home in vallejo instead....but if i fucced up once it was off to Youth Authority......being locced up and on probation goin to special schools i caught up wit most my credits cuz the work was damn near kindergarden level.....i was still into some trouble but all these things kept me in checc......then when i was almost 18 the courts let me move bacc wit my moms who now lived in stoccton.....so bacc to the ghetto life for me....soon as they took me off probation i dropped out a school like half a year before i shoulda graduated.....had to work to help moms pay rent.....i didnt see any reason at the time to stay in school....no one really to guide me or show me somethin special about college to wanna go.....so i said fucc it i can work now and make money.....so i did that and have lived a continuous pattern of job to job checc to checc movin here to there ever since.....dont really remember a really great time in my life that i havent had to struggle or where shit was comin to me easy......i did get my GED while i was livin in Arizona when i was 20 years old.....ive come to realize on my own now the potential of goin to college and all the different shit there actually is in school.....when i was 17 i didnt have any aspirations to be a rapper or a producer or a graphics artist......i didnt know that higher learning could lead me to a real career that i might actually enjoy while being successful.....no one taught me this....no one explained it to me or showed me evidence of it.....i found out on my own from real OG's wit game and knowledge and many other examples all around us.....the whole problem was that most my life no one was around to guide me in a good direction....to inform me that life didnt have to be bad.....that it wasnt always gonna be such a struggle....only real thing i learned growin up was that you had to work to make a livin and thas what i thought was most important......
anyways i thought id share that to give a better perspective on it....cuz its a lil bit of what everyones been saying......cirumstances, decision makin, environment, role models, government, racism,classism, capitolism, ignorance, education, media, trends...... all these things play into what a person becomes in the long run and the way shit is goin in this country too many people are suffering cuz of the shit that is not in thier control.....we can only make decisions based on the options we have at hand.....and those options may not even be clear most of the time so the most obvious, quicc fix is always chozen......
but how do we change???? wit ourselves and our fellow sufferers.....no one is goin to help us....in fact shit is being made harder every year for EVERY american unless you are very rich and powerful......people think gangs are stupid....thas what the media and gov want you to think....gangs were started for a cause....crips and bloods werent made up overnight jus so folks could kill each other over senseless things....the CIA created that drama and continue to fucc up any threatning organization of self supporting minorities so that it doesnt become an actual revolution....theres a million dumb kids out there bangin shit now and dont even know why.....theres a million kids gettin high and droppin out....but dont really know why......dying on the streets but no one knows the fucc WHY??????
if you can see through this bullshit then you should take it upon yourself and help someone....... anyone out.....find a youngsta that shows potential and isnt too late to be unplugged from this matrix we live in.....show kids theres a reason to be alive and want to succeed.....that theres more than prison and bacc breakin work to this world......that knowledge will lead our different races to be equal one day.....that followin bullshit trends and ideas isnt the way to happiness.....that THEY are the key to a truly FREE world.....the ones oppressing us are doin everything in thier power to make sure thier own futures and thier offsprings futures are preserved so why shouldnt we????
its to the point that blaming isnt enough.....if you can see the problem then you can figure how to fix it......
Ok, so if someone were born a crack-baby, with no father, only a drug addicted single mother making minimum wage and attending an overcrowded under funded public school should know about self-determination? Who cares if the government cuts education and social spending ever year and neglects the poor? Yeah bro, blame the exploited and not the exploiter. Good points O’Reilly.
my theory is, if your in the ghetto, barely making it, the only thing to do is blame the government and white man. thats the best way to get through it......when u drop out of school, blame the gov/white man....when u get caught up and end up in jail, blame the gov/white man...........when your starving and aint got no money or food, blame the gov/white man.........thats the solution to everything....so for all your questions sixxx, the answer is its the gov/white mans fault......ahhhhhh, im glad we got that all figured out