NBA Finals: Celtics vs. Lakers
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heres a good article praising bostons defense.
kobe fans need to read.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=KobeBryant-080606
BOSTON -- Looks like the biggest question about the Los Angeles Lakers is the only one that wasn't asked before the series: What if Kobe Bryant has a hard time scoring?
More ominously for them: What if this is the continuation of a trend of bad Finals performances?
He has delivered virtuoso performances on this stage before, beginning with his first trip to the Finals. In 2000 he scored eight points in overtime to snatch Game 4 from the Indiana Pacers. It was the start of the legend, when he went from phenom to phenomenal. As Sam Cassell said the other day, "That's when he became KB8."
Of course, now he's KB24. And he has the accolades (not to mention the MVP trophy) that come with being the most accomplished player in the league.
But the last time Bryant played in June, he shot 38 percent during the Lakers' five-game loss to the Detroit Pistons in 2004. It was an ugly and ill-fated attempt to prove he could be the No. 1 guy and wrest control of the team from Shaquille O'Neal.
Now even more so, he's the focal point of the defense rather than a dangerous weapon alongside Shaq. Once again we're seeing what happens when the league's best defense locks in on the league's best player, especially when that player is oriented on the perimeter. The defense wins.
"They're not going to give him much of an opportunity to break down their defense off of dribble penetration," Lakers guard Derek Fisher said. "So he's going to end up in a situation where he's taking more catch-and-shoot opportunities when he's coming off of cuts and coming off of screens and catching and shooting the basketball. That's something he's going to get used to as the series goes on. He's so great at breaking down defenses off the dribble. The Celtics' defense just doesn't allow that type of play."
Bryant's shot chart showed only two attempts in the paint in his 24-point night. He made one, missed one -- a much better percentage than overall, when he made about one of every three shots he put up. In fact, his 9-for-26 performance in the Finals opener, a 98-88 loss to Boston, continued the woeful shooting against the Celtics in the two regular-season games and leaves him at exactly 33 percent against Boston this year (24-for-72). For Boston's defense, that's even better than the 35 percent shooting they extracted from LeBron James during seven games in the Eastern Conference semifinals.
Bryant and coach Phil Jackson said the problem wasn't the quality of his shots.
"I had some great looks," Bryant said. "They just didn't stay down. I'll just have to pile it in with the other bad shooting games I've had and flush it and come back Game 2 and hopefully I get the same looks."
As one Laker said, he had good looks … but he had chances to pass, too. As the game went on, L.A.'s offense became increasingly stagnant and Bryant tried to do it by himself.
None of Bryant's six assists came in the fourth quarter, when he made only 1 of 6 shots. He's supposed to bring the Lakers home down the stretch; instead, he matched the fourth-quarter shooting of notorious late-game disappearing act Kevin Garnett miss-for-miss. Garnett called his fourth quarter "terrible," which means the same must be said of Bryant's.
But Garnett, thanks to some timely rebounds, his intimidation of Pau Gasol and most of all the heroics of Paul Pierce, is now one victory closer to the championship, one victory closer to removing all asterisks, ellipses and "buts" from his career. Meanwhile, Bryant's rise has been so great this season that we have to be reminded that he hasn't won a championship without Shaq yet, that he's still only halfway to Jordan's collection of six rings.
For the multitudes who picked the Lakers to win the series, the thinking was that Bryant's ability, particularly in the clutch, mattered more than the collective ability of Boston's big three. After all, he was able to overcome San Antonio's top trio. But maybe the collective hunger of this Boston group is greater. If Bryant isn't able to get easy shots, maybe he'll need to sacrifice a little more.
At one point, early in the third quarter, he pulled off a shake-and-fall away jumper that came straight from the Michael Jordan handbook. But Bryant and the Lakers would be better served right now if he played like Magic Johnson.
The 1984 Finals were one of the most traumatic experiences of my adolescence in Los Angeles, but I allowed myself to watch just enough of the replays on ESPN Classic Thursday to see how the Lakers pushed the ball up the court at every opportunity back then. Then I watched in person as the 2008 Lakers scored exactly two fast-break points Thursday.
So there weren't easy baskets to get the rest of the Lakers going, and none to boost Bryant's totals either.
Instead, he had to walk into the rotation of defenders the Celtics threw at him: Ray Allen, Pierce and James Posey. Then he had secondary defenders sliding over when he tried to penetrate. Things were going so well for the Celtics' defense that when the 108-year-old Cassell found himself guarding Bryant, Cassell was able to draw a charge.
If the Lakers can't find a faster tempo, Bryant and the Lakers will have to come up with different ways to attack Boston's half-court defense. Against San Antonio he surveyed the Spurs for two and a half quarters, then lit them up for 23 points. It didn't come together so quickly for him this time, probably leading to a sleep-deprived night of replays.
"I'll be thinking about those [missed shots] a little bit tonight," Bryant said.
"As the series goes on," his teammate Fisher said, "He'll understand where his shots are going to come from and what spots, and he'll shoot the ball I think at a higher percentage than he did tonight."
That's the expectation. Hasn't changed. But it wasn't the result in the first game. And against the Celtics and in the Finals, it isn't the trend. That hasn't changed, either.
J.A. Adande is an ESPN.com senior writer and the author of "The Best Los Angeles Sports Arguments." Click here to e-mail J.A.
heres a good article praising bostons defense.
kobe fans need to read.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=KobeBryant-080606
BOSTON -- Looks like the biggest question about the Los Angeles Lakers is the only one that wasn't asked before the series: What if Kobe Bryant has a hard time scoring?
More ominously for them: What if this is the continuation of a trend of bad Finals performances?
He has delivered virtuoso performances on this stage before, beginning with his first trip to the Finals. In 2000 he scored eight points in overtime to snatch Game 4 from the Indiana Pacers. It was the start of the legend, when he went from phenom to phenomenal. As Sam Cassell said the other day, "That's when he became KB8."
Of course, now he's KB24. And he has the accolades (not to mention the MVP trophy) that come with being the most accomplished player in the league.
But the last time Bryant played in June, he shot 38 percent during the Lakers' five-game loss to the Detroit Pistons in 2004. It was an ugly and ill-fated attempt to prove he could be the No. 1 guy and wrest control of the team from Shaquille O'Neal.
Now even more so, he's the focal point of the defense rather than a dangerous weapon alongside Shaq. Once again we're seeing what happens when the league's best defense locks in on the league's best player, especially when that player is oriented on the perimeter. The defense wins.
"They're not going to give him much of an opportunity to break down their defense off of dribble penetration," Lakers guard Derek Fisher said. "So he's going to end up in a situation where he's taking more catch-and-shoot opportunities when he's coming off of cuts and coming off of screens and catching and shooting the basketball. That's something he's going to get used to as the series goes on. He's so great at breaking down defenses off the dribble. The Celtics' defense just doesn't allow that type of play."
Bryant's shot chart showed only two attempts in the paint in his 24-point night. He made one, missed one -- a much better percentage than overall, when he made about one of every three shots he put up. In fact, his 9-for-26 performance in the Finals opener, a 98-88 loss to Boston, continued the woeful shooting against the Celtics in the two regular-season games and leaves him at exactly 33 percent against Boston this year (24-for-72). For Boston's defense, that's even better than the 35 percent shooting they extracted from LeBron James during seven games in the Eastern Conference semifinals.
Bryant and coach Phil Jackson said the problem wasn't the quality of his shots.
"I had some great looks," Bryant said. "They just didn't stay down. I'll just have to pile it in with the other bad shooting games I've had and flush it and come back Game 2 and hopefully I get the same looks."
As one Laker said, he had good looks … but he had chances to pass, too. As the game went on, L.A.'s offense became increasingly stagnant and Bryant tried to do it by himself.
None of Bryant's six assists came in the fourth quarter, when he made only 1 of 6 shots. He's supposed to bring the Lakers home down the stretch; instead, he matched the fourth-quarter shooting of notorious late-game disappearing act Kevin Garnett miss-for-miss. Garnett called his fourth quarter "terrible," which means the same must be said of Bryant's.
But Garnett, thanks to some timely rebounds, his intimidation of Pau Gasol and most of all the heroics of Paul Pierce, is now one victory closer to the championship, one victory closer to removing all asterisks, ellipses and "buts" from his career. Meanwhile, Bryant's rise has been so great this season that we have to be reminded that he hasn't won a championship without Shaq yet, that he's still only halfway to Jordan's collection of six rings.
For the multitudes who picked the Lakers to win the series, the thinking was that Bryant's ability, particularly in the clutch, mattered more than the collective ability of Boston's big three. After all, he was able to overcome San Antonio's top trio. But maybe the collective hunger of this Boston group is greater. If Bryant isn't able to get easy shots, maybe he'll need to sacrifice a little more.
At one point, early in the third quarter, he pulled off a shake-and-fall away jumper that came straight from the Michael Jordan handbook. But Bryant and the Lakers would be better served right now if he played like Magic Johnson.
The 1984 Finals were one of the most traumatic experiences of my adolescence in Los Angeles, but I allowed myself to watch just enough of the replays on ESPN Classic Thursday to see how the Lakers pushed the ball up the court at every opportunity back then. Then I watched in person as the 2008 Lakers scored exactly two fast-break points Thursday.
So there weren't easy baskets to get the rest of the Lakers going, and none to boost Bryant's totals either.
Instead, he had to walk into the rotation of defenders the Celtics threw at him: Ray Allen, Pierce and James Posey. Then he had secondary defenders sliding over when he tried to penetrate. Things were going so well for the Celtics' defense that when the 108-year-old Cassell found himself guarding Bryant, Cassell was able to draw a charge.
If the Lakers can't find a faster tempo, Bryant and the Lakers will have to come up with different ways to attack Boston's half-court defense. Against San Antonio he surveyed the Spurs for two and a half quarters, then lit them up for 23 points. It didn't come together so quickly for him this time, probably leading to a sleep-deprived night of replays.
"I'll be thinking about those [missed shots] a little bit tonight," Bryant said.
"As the series goes on," his teammate Fisher said, "He'll understand where his shots are going to come from and what spots, and he'll shoot the ball I think at a higher percentage than he did tonight."
That's the expectation. Hasn't changed. But it wasn't the result in the first game. And against the Celtics and in the Finals, it isn't the trend. That hasn't changed, either.
J.A. Adande is an ESPN.com senior writer and the author of "The Best Los Angeles Sports Arguments." Click here to e-mail J.A.
did u wathc the 4th? we werent hitting shit but we were also stopping them from penetrating so it gave us a 2nd chance. both teams played unusually bad then they normally did. but our defense finally picked up when needed and there offense couldnt. i swear some y'all didnt even watch the fucking game lol.
kobe bryants vagina wont allow him to admit the celtics kept him off his game. derek fisher showed why he is respected league wide by being honest. i thought kobe grew up this year. obviously not. definitely not the mvp if he doesnt carry his team (which is supposedly a step or two better than the celts bwahahahaaa!!!) to the title.
boston held kobe to the 2nd lowest FG% of any team during the regular season...i knew it wasn't gonna be easy for him. but you know damn well kobe isn't gonna shoot 9-26 (33%) the whole series. if he shot continues to not fall, he's gonna attack more and more and he's gonna make ya'll pay from the line.
ya'll are tryna make it seem like he was hella far off on all his shots when at least 3 or 4 of them were in and out. those go in and he's shooting 50%.
some nights they're gonna fall and some nights they aren't. but bottom line is you're not gonna hold him down the whole series.
ya'll are tryna make it seem like he was hella far off on all his shots when at least 3 or 4 of them were in and out. those go in and he's shooting 50%.
some nights they're gonna fall and some nights they aren't. but bottom line is you're not gonna hold him down the whole series.
