N. Korea threatens war if U.S. pressure persists

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Doberman said:
China and Russia opposes a nuclear North. At least that's what I thought. China is pissed that they went ahead with the test. However they oppose "tough" sanctions on N.Korea. China is their strongest supporter in other areas though.
and this from a Russian site:
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/10-10-2006/84970-Korea_explosion-0



They should have come to a vote about any sanctions by tomorrow.
Then it will be Kims turn! Seriously...like a game of chess.
No they're not, they're actually delighted
 
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No they're not, they're actually delighted

you're right....China and Russia are backing down on sanctions

U.S. introduces new N. Korea draft resolution
Calls for vote on Friday; China balks on sanctions against Pyongyang
The Associated Press

Updated: 12:44 a.m. MT Oct 12, 2006

UNITED NATIONS - The United States on Thursday introduced a new draft resolution in the Security Council to punish North Korea for its reported nuclear test and said it wants a vote on Friday.

Russia urged the United States not to rush the vote, saying Moscow still had differences and the U.S. should wait for the results of a flurry of high-level diplomacy. China backed Russia’s call, saying Beijing would welcome more talks so the Security Council can send a united and forceful message to Pyongyang condemning the test.

U.S. Ambassador John Bolton told reporters after formally introducing it in the Security Council that Washington wants a vote on Friday.

“I think the council should try to respond to a nuclear test within the same week that the test occurred,” Bolton said. “We’re certainly in favor of keeping all the diplomatic channels open, but we also want swift action, and we shouldn’t allow meetings, and more meetings ... to be an excuse for inaction.”

The United States and Japan had initially hoped for a vote Thursday. But if Washington wants to get China and Russia — the two countries closest to North Korea — on board, a vote is likely be delayed until next week.

Beijing retreats on sanctions ...
Earlier Thursday, China appeared to shy away from backing U.S. efforts to impose a travel ban and financial sanctions on North Korea for its claimed nuclear test, saying any U.N. action should focus on bringing its communist neighbor back to talks.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said North Korea should understand it had made a mistake but “punishment should not be the purpose” of any U.N. response.

U.N. action “should be conducive to the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula ... and the resumption of the talks,” he told reporters. “It’s necessary to express clearly to North Korea that ... the international community is opposed to this nuclear test.”

China’s response to the crisis has been closely watched because it is considered to have the most leverage with the unpredictable, reclusive North Korean regime. China, a veto-wielding Security Council member, is the North’s top provider of desperately needed energy and economic aid.

... While backing ‘punitive actions’
Chinese officials have refused to say publicly what consequences they believe North Korea should face for its claimed nuclear test, although its U.N. ambassador, Wang Guangya, agreed earlier this week that the Security Council must impose “punitive actions.”

Meantime, Japan is imposing its own new sanctions against North Korea. The ruling Liberal Democratic Party approved several harsh measures Thursday, including limits on imports and a ban on all North Korean ships in Japanese waters.

“We will take strong countermeasures,” Kyodo News agency quoted Song Il Ho, North Korea’s ambassador in charge of diplomatic normalization talks with Japan, as saying in an interview on Wednesday when asked about fresh sanctions by Japan.

‘A declaration of war’
The latest U.S. proposal, obtained by The Associated Press Wednesday night, dropped Japanese demands to prohibit North Koreans ships from entering any port, and North Korean aircraft from taking off or landing in any country. These sanctions would likely face strong Russian and Chinese opposition.

The resolution would still require countries to freeze all assets related to North Korea’s weapons and missile programs. But a call to freeze assets from other illicit activities such as “counterfeiting, money-laundering or narcotics” was dropped. So was a call to prevent “any abuses of the international financial system” that could contribute to the transfer or development of banned weapons.

The North will consider increased U.S. pressure “a declaration of war,” RI Kong Son, vice spokesman for North Korea’s Foreign Ministry, said in an interview with AP Television News in Pyongyang. He said North Korea would take unspecified “physical countermeasures.”

Song Il Ho, a North Korean envoy to Japan, gave a similar warning to Tokyo. “We will take strong countermeasures,” he told Kyoto News Agency.

Since Pyongyang announced it exploded its first atomic bomb Monday, there have been daily South Korean and Japanese news reports that the North is preparing another test.

A rumored second nuke test
On Thursday, the South Korean newspaper Munhwa Ilbo quoted an unidentified source familiar with North Korean affairs as saying a second test would occur in two or three days.

South Korea’s National Intelligence Service could not immediately be reached for comment.

South Korean scientists have been scrambling for signs of radioactivity that would confirm Monday’s underground test. Han Seung-jae, an official at the Korea Institute of Nuclear Safety, said experts were still unsure the North had tested a nuclear device.

“So far, we have not detected any abnormal level of radioactivity” in South Korea, he said.

Japanese military planes have also been monitoring for radioactivity in the atmosphere but have reported no abnormal readings.

North Korea has been demanding direct talks with the United States, but President Bush refused to agree to such a meeting in a news conference Wednesday. He argued that Pyongyang would be more likely to listen to the protests of many nations.

Bush added that the U.S. was ready to defend its allies in the region, but that it would also try to use diplomacy to deal with North Korea.

“I believe the commander in chief must try all diplomatic measures before we commit our military,” he said.
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I think it will start with the party. Who knows maybe the communist party is the NWO, they do persecute you in the name Jesus. But then again who really knows besides God? Only time will tell, I'm ready to go already
 
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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
If you are BORN in North Korea..it is almost impossible to LEAVE North Korea...no medi is allowed IN N Korea...they are all but shut off from the REST of the world....their dictator treats the country like everyone is a 3 year old child...and he is their abusive father...

Sixxness said:
And North Korea doesn't give a FUCK about Cali or any Koreans around the world. Do you realize that in N. Korea the ONLY place with running water and electricity is the CAPITAL...and you HAVE to have a government ID to get in. I think that says they don't give a shit about ANY of their people unless they can use them for something.

N. Korea doesn't give a FUCK...They already tested a nuke knowing it would piss everyone off as well as the missile tests over summer. They're not bluffing, I bet they're just getting ready. We're already in WW3...I'm gonna sit back and wait for Bush to call them terrorists...And to tell the nation (AGAIN) that we're in WW3...I mean, if nothing else, at least understand that our president thinks or knows (whichever you want to believe) that we are in the third fucking WORLD WAR. That's a BIG FUCKING DEAL...He pretty much leads our god damn country. We're ALL fucked.
And people have the audacity to question why certain countries are not allowed to have nuclear weapons. Amazing.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
LMAO, nope, THE NWO, no party, just one big Government, and many of you on here will join in on the fun, then realize the truth. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
:paranoid: your just as likely to get the mark as they are.but that was funny^
 
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Stockton209SS said:
You're gonna accept the mark, because your interpretation of the bible is so weak.
So is this is your great way of converting people by judging them and telling them they will get the mark and burn in hell forever. Maybe your interpretation is not that great either? You sound like those Christians that make people not want to become one. Have you ever thought maybe the church system is so messed up that this cat can't learn anything? We have a merciful God, this guys is in the right place just uneducated on the bible. And then bam here comes the educated one who damns him to hell. Who gave you that type of authority? If you both died right not who would go to hell? The guy who is misinformed by the fake Christians of this age? Or the knowledge full Christian who judge him?
 
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speedy gonzalez said:
So is this is your great way of converting people by judging them and telling them they will get the mark and burn in hell forever. Maybe your interpretation is not that great either? You sound like those Christians that make people not want to become one. Have you ever thought maybe the church system is so messed up that this cat can't learn anything? We have a merciful God, this guys is in the right place just uneducated on the bible. And then bam here comes the educated one who damns him to hell. Who gave you that type of authority? If you both died right not who would go to hell? The guy who is misinformed by the fake Christians of this age? Or the knowledge full Christian who judge him?
See you don't even know me first of all, and secondly I never have stated my point of view of the bible was superior to his. He was judging me on the basis of that statement of the NWO. I don't convert men to become Christian, and I know how corrupt the church is, I'M A NON-ORGANIZED AND UN-ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN. My question for him is, how does he know I'll accept the mark, when he doesn't even know how much I understand it. He's the one who picks and chooses his favorite bible verses, and uses it has his doctrine, making it a dogma, you understand? Think.