mobb music
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^Exactly. 90s Sick Wid It is pretty much the ultimate mobb shit. Some 90s AWOL as well. E-40, B-Legit, Celly Cel, and C-Bo albums are shitting on most of everything else. Just as important were the producers: Mike Mosely, Sam Bostic, Studio Ton, Tone Capone, and a couple others I forgot. You can go on discogs.com & delve way deep into this.
to me mobb music was just music you zone out to nomatter what kind of music it was.back in the days niggaz was mobbin 4 deep bumpin X clan.when did this "it got to have this or this sound to be mobb music" start?
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Why do you have to sample?
A lot of the mid-90s Nor Cal music was actually either without samples or they were heavily modified. There were a lot of sample-based albums too, but those were the not so good ones. G-Funk was a lot more sample-reliant, but these days the people who still do G-Funk have moved away from those P-Funk samples (precisely because they are sampled to death and there isn't anything to be extracted from old P-Funk records anymore) and into original composition. And they still make good music even though it's a very small number of people (and mostly outside the US)
A lot of the mid-90s Nor Cal music was actually either without samples or they were heavily modified. There were a lot of sample-based albums too, but those were the not so good ones. G-Funk was a lot more sample-reliant, but these days the people who still do G-Funk have moved away from those P-Funk samples (precisely because they are sampled to death and there isn't anything to be extracted from old P-Funk records anymore) and into original composition. And they still make good music even though it's a very small number of people (and mostly outside the US)
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Sick Wid It's music was more funk-based. AWOL had the hardcore gangsta shit. I've always seen it as two somewhat separate genres even though it usually all goes into the mobb music category - the sound of AWOL albums around 1997-2000 was unique.
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That's part of the reason but it's not the whole reason and I don't think it's even the main one. Someone who grew up in the 90s did not grow up on P-Funk but he grew up on G-Funk and G-Funk was sometimes even funkier than P-Funk as 20 years later people had better tools for producing an even more elastic sound. P-Funk never went as far in that direction as tracks like these for example:
Even if they are sampling P-Funk.
The main factor was the there was a serious crack down on sampling in the mid-90s. All of a sudden you had to pay for samples and if you were a major label artist you had to pay big money. The underground and independent rappers could have kept sampling and many indeed did, as nobody would really pay attention to them, but suddenly the major labels faced increased costs of making music and they solved the problem by simply abandoning samples. But that had the effect of making music much more electronic and plastic as moving away from samples naturally made computerized music more prominent. And since what the major labels produce and make a hit greatly influences what the underground does too (as most underground rappers are in fact only underground because they have not been able to become mainstream, which they in fact would very much like to become, and in no way ideologically opposed to being mainstream as we the fans would often like to think they are) the music as a whole moved in the same direction and gradually lost that live instrumentation, real musicianship element in it that it has in the early and mid 90s.
It is no coincidence that southern rap, which originated from and had been mostly sample-free in the bass music era of the late 80s and early 90s, became so prominent in the late 90s (the fact that half of New Orleans rap was based on sampling the same Triggerman track aside) and that producers like Timbaland took over. Crunk, snap and trap music were also basically sample-free too.
The crack-down on samples did not hurt just G-Funk, East Coast rap which was even more reliant on sampling (almost religiously so), suffered too and it never recovered from that.
Even if they are sampling P-Funk.
The main factor was the there was a serious crack down on sampling in the mid-90s. All of a sudden you had to pay for samples and if you were a major label artist you had to pay big money. The underground and independent rappers could have kept sampling and many indeed did, as nobody would really pay attention to them, but suddenly the major labels faced increased costs of making music and they solved the problem by simply abandoning samples. But that had the effect of making music much more electronic and plastic as moving away from samples naturally made computerized music more prominent. And since what the major labels produce and make a hit greatly influences what the underground does too (as most underground rappers are in fact only underground because they have not been able to become mainstream, which they in fact would very much like to become, and in no way ideologically opposed to being mainstream as we the fans would often like to think they are) the music as a whole moved in the same direction and gradually lost that live instrumentation, real musicianship element in it that it has in the early and mid 90s.
It is no coincidence that southern rap, which originated from and had been mostly sample-free in the bass music era of the late 80s and early 90s, became so prominent in the late 90s (the fact that half of New Orleans rap was based on sampling the same Triggerman track aside) and that producers like Timbaland took over. Crunk, snap and trap music were also basically sample-free too.
The crack-down on samples did not hurt just G-Funk, East Coast rap which was even more reliant on sampling (almost religiously so), suffered too and it never recovered from that.
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Anything that came out under Young Black Brotha 92,93,94,95,96
Same go's for Sick Wid it..Spice1,Luniz,Short fall in here as well.
So.Cal is known more forthat funk but albums like Doggystyle,Dogg Food,The Chronic,All Eyes On Me also carried that sound.
I think Twista and the Legendary Traxtser does alot of that Mobb stuff on just about every album. Tracks like 3rd eye. I ain't that Nigga. In the middle of the night (Traxter's not Twista's version) the whole Adrenaline Rush album really.
Also Old Bone had some of that Mobb shit..not quite like the Bays sound but I wouldn't know what other category I'd put tracks like Mo'Murda,Down fo my thang. Down 71 ect. into..
Same go's for Sick Wid it..Spice1,Luniz,Short fall in here as well.
So.Cal is known more forthat funk but albums like Doggystyle,Dogg Food,The Chronic,All Eyes On Me also carried that sound.
I think Twista and the Legendary Traxtser does alot of that Mobb stuff on just about every album. Tracks like 3rd eye. I ain't that Nigga. In the middle of the night (Traxter's not Twista's version) the whole Adrenaline Rush album really.
Also Old Bone had some of that Mobb shit..not quite like the Bays sound but I wouldn't know what other category I'd put tracks like Mo'Murda,Down fo my thang. Down 71 ect. into..
I swear I stay slapping all that old mobb shit I be feeling hella lost like man the shit these lil niggaz listen to today! But that nigga C-Dubb shit be having my mtx9500's pounding with that mobb shit! Niggaz who hop in my shit always be like "who is this, where can I cop" hahahahahah keep makin them mobb slapz!
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